I24: Fix everything? Does that include Weapon Customization?
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Posted on: 2012-07-27 17:25 in CoH and CoV General Discussions
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We asked about this a long time ago and i think the answer given is that we won't be getting that since the Spider powers are not actually direct claw/mace power ports and they want different weaponry attached.
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Originally Posted by Android_5Point9
It'd be nice if Widows could have literally any claws options, considering Soldiers at least get a handful of rifle choices.
Other than that, some pulse rifle to beam rifle choices would be nice, along with a few of the mace options being made available to the Mace Mastery PPP, and vice versa. |
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Originally Posted by ryu_planeswalker
We asked about this a long time ago and i think the answer given is that we won't be getting that since the Spider powers are not actually direct claw/mace power ports and they want different weaponry attached.
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The issue with Widow claws is they are animated, not static (blades shoot out, projectiles are fired etc). Thus, they fall under Power Customisation, not Weapons. Spines is the closest analogy.
Maces are a bit different, the main thing is the beam firing animation. The non-arachnos maces aren't designed to line up with the beams, so you can end up with beams coming from empty space. (some are also simply too short.)
Having said that, Arachnos Soldiers do get the Elemental mace, Celestial mace (which is just an axe held backwards), Celestial rifle and Mecha rifle. I think the policy on designing new weapons has changed to emphasise compatibility.
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I always thought the Crey Pistols could be a nice little unlock for DP if they bothered to earn that surpassingly worthless crey pistol accolade. Also I wondered why they didn't have the Resistance's pistols with the cool LED lights on the sides...considering DP came out with GR!
Sadly enough in the age of Freedom I doubt we'd see them doled out for free anymore.
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I would be sufficiently happy if we went the other direction then, and made Arachnos maces an unlock for War Mace characters.
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Originally Posted by PRAF68_EU
Maces are a bit different, the main thing is the beam firing animation. The non-arachnos maces aren't designed to line up with the beams, so you can end up with beams coming from empty space. (some are also simply too short.)
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how about some non-arachnos crab packs for Spiders?
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While it would be nice to have more weapon options, I think the only thing that might qualify as a "fix" is adding the ability to customize weapon sets' FX. Since we can do so with Beam Rifle, Titan Weapons, and Staff, it would be nice if we could get that feature on all the other weapon sets too: Claws, Katana/Ninja Blade, Dual Blades, Broadsword, Mace, Axe, Pistols, Rifle, Archery/Trick Arrows, Mastermind Robotics Beam Rifle (and Thugs Pistols). I'm probably missing a couple.
I'm not mentioning Widow or Soldier powers here because the devs have already said on the livestream that there is no ETA for Epic AT customization.
But I am all for more options of any type, and thus I agree with all the calls for more weapon options. (I for instance desperately want the "Longsword" option(or ANY European-style straight sword) ported over to Katana, and have posted as much before. Ever since we first got the ability to customize weapons, I've wanted that option...*longing sigh*)
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Originally Posted by Zyphoid
I would say take a look at Phantasy Star Online to get an idea. There were some great staff models in that game.
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Great weapon models.. period.
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Originally Posted by Nos482
The long promised Rularuu (and Vanguard) TW aside, a Rularuu themed Crab backpack would be nice for future content.
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My search-fu is failing me, but I distinctly remember a Red Name saying that there was no Rularuu Titan Weapon model in the pipeline and that the Purgatory Sword was similar to what one would look like.|
Originally Posted by Kirsten
The long promised Rularuu (and Vanguard) TW aside, a Rularuu themed Crab backpack would be nice for future content.
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Granted, this was a while back so their stance on the issue may have changed.
FWIW I would love to see a Rularuu TW model. I love the Rularuu weapons!
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if i24 is a "Fix Everything" issue... they should REALLY get rid of "redraw".
Its an old old old issue ive had with COH...
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if i24 is a "Fix Everything" issue... they should REALLY get rid of "redraw".
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Do that for Broadsword, Katana, Dual Blades, Claws, Axe, and Mace and I'll explode with happiness.
Well, as far as I'm concerned, we're overdue. Weapon effects are hardly very graphics-intensive, consisting mostly of swing arcs and a few larger particle effects. Axe, Sword, Mace and Katana only really have one or two special powers each, Assault Rifle is mostly muzzle flashes and fire effects that have already been customized for the various fire sets, Archery needs a selection of arrows and so on. I can see Dual Pistols presenting a problem since the effects of the powers change based on the status of Swap Ammo so I'm willing to give this one a pass (and even then I can see customizing at least basic non-swapped per power shots and then swapped shots whole-sale), but the rest really ought to be done.
I guess at this point I'm just happy we're getting pool customization so I can hold out for this, but I also fear that once this round of customization is done, we may never see another ever again, at the rate this studio is moving on power customization issues. I don't mean to sound ungrateful - I'm throwing a party when pool customization comes out. I'm just worried, is all.