Devs called I24 "Fix Everything" in Coffee Talk... Lets hope that doesn't include nerfs


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Just hearing that today got me thinking, what if I24 is another big balancing act like ED or GDN? Some powers could get gutted like Rage or Drain Psyche.

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It already has included nerfs. There are minor DPA nerfs to all the old crash nukes.


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Originally Posted by Ultimus View Post
Just hearing that today got me thinking, what if I24 is another big balancing act like ED or GDN? Some powers could get gutted like Rage or Drain Psyche.

Thoughts?
Cry doom much?


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It already has included nerfs. There are minor DPA nerfs to all the old crash nukes.
With MAJOR buffs to recharge and damage constants.

Golly Gosh Darn with Rainbow Sprinkles and a Side of Jam, why are we already complaining and crying doom and whining about nerfs?

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Great news, Ultimus. A_F and J_B have been hired as the new development leads at Paragon Studios. Everything's getting buffed forever.


 

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Great news, Ultimus. A_F and J_B have been hired as the new development leads at Paragon Studios. Everything's getting buffed forever.
Soooooo we should prepare for the game to shut down in about 6 months then? Good to know.


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One of the of the perks of being an "old" game is that we've gone way past the wild and desperate nerfbat swings that follow the launch of an MMO


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Drain Pscyhe has already been guaranteed 'safe'.


 

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Do I expect major re-balancing like GDN and ED? No. However I wouldn't be to surprised to see some powers changed. In particular I'm hoping that Drain Psyche is re-balanced to bring it into line with the other Blaster Sustain powers.


 

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Lets hope that doesn't include nerfs
Why?

Seriously, the "NERFS IS BAD even when the thing being nerfed really should be nerfed" mindset annoys me.

But moreover, based on what we know so far, I don't see much reason to expect huge nerfs in i24 any more than we expected huge nerfs in i23, i22, i21, and so on. It might happen, sure, but I'm not counting on it.


 

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Or maybe it means that the outbreak of unwanted digital puppies caused by Beast Mastery's release will finally be brought under control.

Or maybe it's a team of assassins being sent after the most vocal complainers on the forums to "fix" them once and for all.

Or maybe it's exactly what it sounds like until we see evidence otherwise. Fear-mongering FTL.

Synapse has already said that Drain Psyche is safe as part of the Blaster Secondary discussion last month, by the way.


 

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When?
When they announced the blaster changes. They were very emphatic that drain psyche wouldn't be touched even if it is an outlier in standard performance


 

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When they announced the blaster changes. They were very emphatic that drain psyche wouldn't be touched even if it is an outlier in standard performance
They were also empathic in the coffee talk about Blaster changes that it was Overpowered.


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When they announced the blaster changes. They were very emphatic that drain psyche wouldn't be touched even if it is an outlier in standard performance
No, they said that at the moment it is not being changed. That does not mean that it will never be changed, especially if they feel that it breaks the mold for Blaster performance (which is does since compared to the other Sustains it's got a completely different risk/reward ratio).


 

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With MAJOR buffs to recharge and damage constants.

Golly Gosh Darn with Rainbow Sprinkles and a Side of Jam and Lemon custard filled donuts, why are we already complaining and crying doom and whining about nerfs?
Why do you think my statement of honest fact that was broadcast to the world is equal to complaining, crying doom, and whining?



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Great news, Ultimus. A_F and J_B have been hired as the new development leads at Paragon Studios. Everything's getting buffed forever.
Lets See I was for

1. Hover Speed getting buffed
2. Blaster survivability getting buffed
3. Blaster Damage getting buffed.

Looks like I am 3 for 3

Oh and a bonus point that water blast in its present form was underpowered with the changes coming down and would need a buff. Check again.

Sounds like you could do with a little buff.


 

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Ya know everytime I see ED I think of a certain dysfuction that men get and yes I do know that it stands for Enhancement Diversification, the devs couldn't have used any other abbreviations could they.


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I am surprised no one has posted about how big of a nerf to Scrappers i24 is.

first they made brutes do more damage than scrappers
then stalkers did more damage than scrappers
now blasters will do more damage than scrappers

the scrapper AT is basically useless now. And it is the AT that pretty much defines comics - wolverine, spiderman, superman, iron fist, bat man, flash, wonder woman, etc.

if they do not fix scrappers in i24 I foresee massive numbers of people quitting in crit


 

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They were also empathic in the coffee talk about Blaster changes that it was Overpowered.
They were also emphatic they weren't changing nukes in I24. I truly hope Drain Psyche gets adjusted, that would be fabulous.


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I wish the devs wouldn't (presumably accidentally) use terms that have come to have their own meanings in forum-speak. A "fix everything" issue is a case in point. From what I've read, the devs mean, "Tweak lots of underappreciated powers and mechanics." But in forum-speak, judging from the past four years of posts, a "fix everything" issue means "go through and fix all the typos and bugs in the entire game, as well as whatever additions or changes I, the poster, want." I see a lot of disappointed forumites in the future once people realize the devs are doing their own thing, not borrowing someone's forum post idea. But then, disappointment is pretty much the theme of the fora, anyway, so I suppose it's to be expected regardless.

Oh, and what I've read of the changes look pretty good.


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I wish the devs wouldn't (presumably accidentally) use terms that have come to have their own meanings in forum-speak. A "fix everything" issue is a case in point. From what I've read, the devs mean, "Tweak lots of underappreciated powers and mechanics." But in forum-speak, judging from the past four years of posts, a "fix everything" issue means "go through and fix all the typos and bugs in the entire game, as well as whatever additions or changes I, the poster, want." I see a lot of disappointed forumites in the future once people realize the devs are doing their own thing, not borrowing someone's forum post idea. But then, disappointment is pretty much the theme of the fora, anyway, so I suppose it's to be expected regardless.

Oh, and what I've read of the changes look pretty good.
Or people could be positive about it and not assume a group of people working hard to better the game are actually out to make us all hate them.

C'mon son.


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Devs called I24 "Fix Everything" in Coffee Talk... Lets hope that doesn't include nerfs


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Or people could be positive about it and not assume a group of people working hard to better the game are actually out to make us all hate them.

C'mon son.
They could, but that isn't the sort of behavior I've seen out of the fora lately. I agree with you; it's illogical.

Edit: And I see that Arcanaville and Vulcan Kirstie Alley agree, too!


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Lets See I was for

1. Hover Speed getting buffed
2. Blaster survivability getting buffed
3. Blaster Damage getting buffed.

Looks like I am 3 for 3

Oh and a bonus point that water blast in its present form was underpowered with the changes coming down and would need a buff. Check again.

Sounds like you could do with a little buff.
Those were the only three things you were ever for?


Also: who was for Hover speed getting nerfed?


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