Discussion: Featured Items at the Paragon Market - 6/12/12
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Posted on: 2012-06-11 18:07 in News, Events and Announcement Discussion
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Originally Posted by Agent White
Clearly he's thinking in dog time. So it was a little over 4 years to get out.
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OK, I'm actually going to bite and call them out on this. With all the progress they were making on cross-gendering this stuff, with the amount of stuff in this pack that both genders (and huge, poor thing) get, why in the name of Shatners Toupe didn't they give females the armoured spacesuit boot option? They gave them the gloves, the bottoms, the top, everything else, but they seem to have omitted the boots. That's actually kind of absurd.
Yes, they've not been there since the set was first put on beta, but I honestly can't grasp why a rational decision was made to give the females every other part of that outfit, but not the boots.
Like I say, its more than a little absurd.
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Males also lack both ring gloves and the boots with low rings.
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Originally Posted by Gideon
OK, I'm actually going to bite and call them out on this. With all the progress they were making on cross-gendering this stuff, with the amount of stuff in this pack that both genders (and huge, poor thing) get, why in the name of Shatners Toupe didn't they give females the armoured spacesuit boot option? They gave them the gloves, the bottoms, the top, everything else, but they seem to have omitted the boots. That's actually kind of absurd.
Yes, they've not been there since the set was first put on beta, but I honestly can't grasp why a rational decision was made to give the females every other part of that outfit, but not the boots. Like I say, its more than a little absurd. |
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Set up your home PC so you can remote in from work. The connection won't be good enough to play the game at any sort of quality, but if all you want to do is check out new costume options, you should be fine. |
Originally Posted by Myrdinn
And I can't buy the retro set without signing into the game (shouldn't do that at work. The astechs (assistant techs) would get all... grumpy)!
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Though I agree... it'd be pretty awesome if they implemented an out-of-game store front as well. If I'm not mistaken, the in-game store is effectively displaying a webpage anyway.
(I'd also really like a stand-alone costume creator like the Korean version of the game, City of Hero, got as well.)
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Originally Posted by Nethergoat
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True, but slightly more absurd as its the only spacesuit part thats absent
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Originally Posted by Lord_Kalistoh
Males also lack both ring gloves and the boots with low rings.
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Yeah, it took a while, but understand that they weren't just sitting on their thumbs. It was part of a production schedule in which all the costume bundles we got previously came first.|
Originally Posted by Lord_Kalistoh
What I hope is that they do it faster with the next one (Post Apocalyptic). More than a year seems a bit too much.
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And before we get the Post-Apocalyptic costume set, we know we'll be getting a couple others... Cyberpunk and one other that was mentioned at the last Pummit BEFORE the create-a-costume panel. (For some reason, I want to say it was related to pirates, but can't remember off the top of my head.)
EDIT: This article was posted by Hit Streak right after I made this post, and the following bit emphasizes what I said above.
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PCG: At this year’s player summit, the players helped design a post-apocalyptic costume design. Will players need to wait a year for that to be implemented into the game? EJ: We’d like to get a quicker turnaround on the player summit Costume Set this time around. The last time we did it we honestly didn’t know how enthusiastic the reaction would be to the idea of a player influenced Costume Set. Our release schedules are set pretty well in advance, so finding a slot for Retro Sci-fi necessitated a later release schedule. PCG: Is a year typical development time for costume designs? EJ: Not at all, our turnaround time on a Costume Set from beginning to end is relatively quick, getting a window for release is another matter since we’re usually planned out several months in advance. For the upcoming Post-Apocalyptic Costume Set (name pending), we were better prepared for the demand and player enthusiasm and had a release window already penciled in for this upcoming Costume Set. |
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Originally Posted by Nethergoat
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but does it rise to the level of 'Slap in the Face'?|
Originally Posted by Gideon
Like I say, its more than a little absurd.
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Originally Posted by Chad Gulzow-Man
Though I agree... it'd be pretty awesome if they implemented an out-of-game store front as well. If I'm not mistaken, the in-game store is effectively displaying a webpage anyway.
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Devs hate flat-booted females.
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Originally Posted by Gideon
True, but slightly more absurd as its the only spacesuit part thats absent
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Originally Posted by Nethergoat
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No, but it is kind of "just what were you thinking?" moment.|
Originally Posted by Nethergoat
but does it rise to the level of 'Slap in the Face'?
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and speaking of slaps in the face, the obligatory Brightslap
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Males also lack the shirt and skirt. |
Originally Posted by Lord_Kalistoh
Males also lack both ring gloves and the boots with low rings.
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We'll never be able to make a proper Zapp Brannigan |
Originally Posted by Fennec
Males also lack the shirt and skirt.
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I believe that is an option for their market provider. However, that might require signing into the provider's website, not NCsoft's.
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Originally Posted by Chad Gulzow-Man
Though I agree... it'd be pretty awesome if they implemented an out-of-game store front as well. If I'm not mistaken, the in-game store is effectively displaying a webpage anyway.
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Men are also missing hair under the bubbles apparently, though I can put all kinds of other things on his head Are we all supposedto have gone bald from exposure to solar radiation?
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Originally Posted by Hit Streak
Additional Sale Items at the Paragon Parket®! |
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They should have full hair selections under Standard Heads. Were you looking in the Full Mask Heads instead? |
Originally Posted by Varalent
Men are also missing hair under the bubbles apparently, though I can put all kinds of other things on his head
Are we all supposedto have gone bald from exposure to solar radiation? |
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I saw the costume sets late last night in the editor, but they weren't in the store yet. Knew that I'd be spending a while today on my Martian. Unfortunately, her ears clipped through the helmet, so it's now canon that she has retractable ears.
I'm looking forward to buying this pack later tonight. I'm sure some of them can be tweaked to go with chainmail, then whip up a retro "Space Knights from Mars!" look.
Edited to remove some unnecessary comments.
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They do so much the way I want, its inexplicable why they don't go all the way and just do everything the way I want.
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Originally Posted by Gideon
OK, I'm actually going to bite and call them out on this. With all the progress they were making on cross-gendering this stuff, with the amount of stuff in this pack that both genders (and huge, poor thing) get, why in the name of Shatners Toupe didn't they give females the armoured spacesuit boot option? They gave them the gloves, the bottoms, the top, everything else, but they seem to have omitted the boots. That's actually kind of absurd.
Yes, they've not been there since the set was first put on beta, but I honestly can't grasp why a rational decision was made to give the females every other part of that outfit, but not the boots. Like I say, its more than a little absurd. |
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Want to make a bet about them adding those boots? |
Originally Posted by Arcanaville
They do so much the way I want, its inexplicable why they don't go all the way and just do everything the way I want.
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If they add the boots without adding the missing male SciFi pieces, it will make one thing clear: those of us who want more parts for our male characters will need to get more vocal and organized in our efforts for (close to) equivalent costume pieces. Even after the Carnival of Light packs, Sashes, Imperial Crowns, and more have been locked from male characters while one sided developments towards female options continue, things have been pretty mellow.
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Originally Posted by Reppu
Want to make a bet about them adding those boots?
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I can understand the Sash, but some of those Carnival pieces are beyond 'neutral' in the least, and the Imperial Crowns are pretty horrid. I can understand if it's a stance for the neutrality and acceptance of homosexually-open Males, but... let's stop for a moment and really consider that.|
Originally Posted by Paladin
If they add the boots without adding the missing male SciFi pieces, it will make one thing clear: those of us who want more parts for our male characters will need to get more vocal and organized in our efforts for (close to) equivalent costume pieces. Even after the Carnival of Light packs, Sashes, Imperial Crowns, and more have been locked from male characters while one sided developments towards female options continue, things have been pretty mellow.
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I don't think I know a single homosexual male friend of mine who wants the Carnie Thigh-High Boots. I think what quite a few people would do is go for the transvestite route, and lead to even more displays of blatant 'trolling'. I am all for equality, however, but some things need to be considered from other point of views.
Again, how many men would wear the Carnie Thigh-High Boots, the Steampunk Bodices, and such blatantly oversexualized items for legitimate use, and not just to 'troll'?
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I'm really quite focused on the neutral pieces, and the female pieces without masculine counterparts. Sashes, Carnival Masks, Circlets, Crowns, the Princess Hat, Shoulder Pets. Hats and masks are easier to spot as not having male-character counterparts than delving into the creator and noting the additional options of "version 2" that female characters have in designs versus male characters.|
Originally Posted by Reppu
I can understand the Sash, but some of those Carnival pieces are beyond 'neutral' in the least, and the Imperial Crowns are pretty horrid. I can understand if it's a stance for the neutrality and acceptance of homosexually-open Males, but... let's stop for a moment and really consider that.
I don't think I know a single homosexual male friend of mine who wants the Carnie Thigh-High Boots. I think what quite a few people would do is go for the transvestite route, and lead to even more displays of blatant 'trolling'. I am all for equality, however, but some things need to be considered from other point of views. Again, how many men would wear the Carnie Thigh-High Boots, the Steampunk Bodices, and such blatantly oversexualized items for legitimate use, and not just to 'troll'? |
I'm with you that most male characters wouldn't go the full road and wear dresses, fishnets, etc - how many mesh wearing heroes do you see (with the exception of those emulating a chainmail look?) But there are some stark neutral sections missing from the male's wardrobe that only seem to be growing as more sets are invented.
That's enough derailment of this fine thread from me, though - I'll be reading your reply and then bowing out of the thread except to discuss the great costuming work Dink has done. Thanks for your thoughts on this.
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I could strongly agree that Neutral pieces should be ported, and both genders should retain their more "Obviously Male" and "Obviously Female" exclusivity. Certain things should simply be what they are; 'designated' to a gender.|
Originally Posted by Paladin
I'm really quite focused on the neutral pieces, and the female pieces without masculine counterparts. Sashes, Carnival Masks, Circlets, Crowns, the Princess Hat, Shoulder Pets. Hats and masks are easier to spot as not having male-character counterparts than delving into the creator and noting the additional options of "version 2" that female characters have in designs versus male characters.
I'm with you that most male characters wouldn't go the full road and wear dresses, fishnets, etc - how many mesh wearing heroes do you see (with the exception of those emulating a chainmail look?) But there are some stark neutral sections missing from the male's wardrobe that only seem to be growing as more sets are invented. That's enough derailment of this fine thread from me, though - I'll be reading your reply and then bowing out of the thread except to discuss the great costuming work Dink has done. Thanks for your thoughts on this. |
I can hope for further movements toward the neutrality, but let's all appreciate the fact the Female Costume Pieces finally received that after a few years of blatant "Comic Book Cheesecake" service. It may be a while for this to apply to males, but the difference isn't terribly, terribly extreme at least.
Although I guess I could use more beefcake male pieces... hmmm...
A few years of over sexualized male pieces would be fair, then the port of female pieces!
But we can't possibly have more than one event happening a year, that might suggest that marketing is doing stuff and that the game isn't dying.