Transformers Beast Wars...

"archaic energon guzzlers.....how DARE they!"
"Unwilling though I was to follow my namesake's instructions, it has all come down to this. The ultimate risk for the ultimate prize! A day of reckoning with those that made US into slaves!"

Too bad that Cybertronian culture wasn't explored more as I'd like to get more on Predacon Megatron's viewpoint that the Autobots and Maximals somehow made the Predacons a slave race as such a thing should go against both Autobot and Maximal philosophy.


Another great quote:

"And there came a hero that said 'Hurt not the Earth, nor the trees, nor the seas, nor the fabric of time!' But there hero would NOT prevail!"

"Finish the quote Megatron! 'Nor would he surrender!' "

Better yet: Optimal Optimus enters the Nemesis bridge for the big fight

Megatron: "Oh well, let's have it! The usual destiny and honor speech!"
Optimal Optimus: "SPEECH THIS!" and punches Megatron

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Yes better BW 2 and Neo then Armada/Energon/Cybertron.....man those were awful.

Rattrap was one of my favorites in Beast Wars. It is too bad that the season 3 script Dark Glass (or was it Glass Darkly?) was rejected. It was supposed to have had Megatron testing what would have become the virus he used in Beast Machines, and Rattrap found out that Dinobot copied his memories and personality into the Axalon computers and managed to capture TM2 Dinobot and put that data into him in an effort to restore his lost friend. I thought it was a nice story that had Rattrap fully realize that despite all their arguing and fighting that Dinobot was his best friend.

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I didn't mind the Japanese (English subtitles) version of Cybertron (aka Galaxy Force). Some things I guess are just more enjoyable in their original format. English dubbiing can really spoil a show when you compare it to the original. In general, you can hear the emotion and effort in the original Japanese dialogue. When shows get re-dubbed into English, it feels like the voice actors half-pancake it. The only show that comes to mind where I liked the English dub vs the original is Voltron. I tried watching the original subbed in English and I wanted to rip my ears out. But I digress...

The Rattrap / Dinobot relationship definitely made Beast Wars an interesting watch. I don't remember the show well enough to quote their interactions, but I can say that they were probably the most memorable characters, along with Silverbolt and Black Arachnia.

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is there someplace online to watch these? with subtitles naturally....

sadly it looks like only season 1 is up right now...

o.0 Oh come on, i just finished watching the series after finding it on Youtube and days later Netflix gets it.

Dinobot was my Fav, Rattrap was funny. The show was just Prime.

When I first saw it, I thought it was only season 3 since the box art was for 'Beast Wars the Complete Third Season'.

I don't think I can watch it again, though. It looks so bad, and I'm reminded how much I hated the whole turning-into-actual-animals thing. The story eventually got past that for me the first time, but now... yeesh.

I watched the entire series not too long ago and while the transforms and CGI is pretty badly dated, the story still sold it.

And yes, Dinobot is the shizz.

The CGI improved as the series went but the first few episodes did look a bit rough even back then, but the story was and still is great. As to turning into animals, to me the Maximals and Predacons were an evolution/combination of Micromasters and Pretender armor tech.

Season 3 could have benefited greatly from a few more episodes as somethings weren't fully explained:

1. The Vok: one writer felt they were the Swarm from the Marvel G2 comic, the other felt they were simply an alien race (I prefer this)

2. the transmetal 2 driver: when did Megatron get it and where? It was apparently Vok technology and where did it go after it healed and upgraded Black Arachnia

3. Tarantulas: he states that he and Tripredacus council are not descended from Autobot or Decepticon and thus would likely be immune to a change in the time stream. One writer felt they were descended from the G2 Decepticons (yuck!) the other felt they were Unicron creations before Unicron's head was taken from Cybertronian orbit and destroyed. Megatron later called Tarantulas a "unicron spawn" and later botcon comics I think have confirmed that Tarantulas is indeed a unicron creation. This would greatly explain how Tarantulas kept regenerating himself from damage that would have surely killed another Transformer.

4. The full powers and abilites of Transmetal 2 Transformers were never explored. Super healing and telekinesis were all we saw....

5. When Depthcharge arrived, Optimus tells him to let it go and that "You were not responsible for what happened to Colony Omicron and neither am I". Protoform X leveled the colony and Depthcharge hunted him down and helped cage him, but the Council decided Optimus should exile Protoform X instead. Still that statement from Optimus makes me wonder....did Optimus Primal have a hand in the creation of Protoform X? It was never stated, but it would be interesting and help explain why Depthcharge wasn't too keen on following Optimus' orders. Though I do laugh when Primal confronts Depthcharge about what happened to Cheetor and Depthcharge gives him attitude until Primal gets mad, slams DC into a wall and tells him to talk or he will extract the data from him one bit at a time. Depthcharge then says "Well since you asked so NICELY......"

6. The plot point of Rattrap finding Dinobot's memory/personality copy in the Axalon computers and then inputting it into TM2 Dinobot should have happened. That rejected script would have shown that Rattrap finally realized Dinobot was indeed his best friend and it would have helped explain TM2 Dinobot awakening after Rampage was blown up.

7. Dragon Megatron contained the spark of the original Megatron until he was finally defeated. Would have been interesting to see just how he was coping with having another maniacally evil spark coexisting with him. The power boost was obvious and was why only Tigerhawk could face him since Tigerhawk was empowered first by the two Vok and then by the merged spark of Tigatron and Air Razor. Had Optimus reclaimed the spark of Optimus Prime before the final fight he likely could have taken Dragon Megatron down.

One of the biggest unexplained plot holes of Beast Machines was just what happened to Megatron after he got loose from the Autobot shuttle and tumbled away in transwarp space. When and where did he emerge?

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Excellent.

very pertinent questions....I do wish Beast Wars would have lasted a bit longer though....or perhaps wrap up some of these issues in comic book form....

yea I just checked and season 2 has been added....so it looks as though they are slowly getting around to adding all 3 seasons....hopefully they add Beast Machines too....it would be interesting if they added the Japanese stuff too....

Another question that could be asked is this....When the High Command (I'm going to guess at this point) sent the probe back in time to search for them...why didn't the probe recognize the Stasis Pods when it did its fly by...not once, but twice!

Maybe the probe wasn't designed to search for the signals from the pods? After all, those pods were supposed to be within the Axalon, rather than floating free in space.

Well, realistically speaking he probably would've emerged light years from anything at all and not come within spitting distance of another object for thousands of years or more. (And most likely that would've left him a patch of metallic plasma on impact, especially since the most likely object to eventually hit would've been a stellar mass.) But the real answer is wherever and whenever the writers need him to be for the purposes of plot.