Freebie Friday Has Been Superfudged!
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Arcanaville,
Posted on: 2012-05-19 07:31 in CoH and CoV General Discussions
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There's going above and beyond, and there's being tied to a computer with VPN access on your day "off".
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Originally Posted by DarkGob
Some people derive value from going above and beyond the base expectations of their job, although I guess there are fewer and fewer people like that nowadays.
Just my opinion... |
Orc&Pie No.53230 There is an orc, and somehow, he got a pie. And you are hungry.
www.repeat-offenders.net
Negaduck: I see you found the crumb. I knew you'd never notice the huge flag.
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Beats having to go out and interact with real humans, I'd say.
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Originally Posted by Rajani Isa
There's going above and beyond, and there's being tied to a computer with VPN access on your day "off".
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Goodbye may seem forever
Farewell is like the end
But in my heart's the memory
And there you'll always be
-- The Fox and the Hound
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Logging in really quick for 5 minutes to flip a switch = literally tying yourself to your computer all day long.|
Originally Posted by Rajani Isa
There's going above and beyond, and there's being tied to a computer with VPN access on your day "off".
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Okay. Glad we cleared that up.
"You don't lose levels. You don't have equipment to wear out, repair, or lose, or that anyone can steal from you. About the only thing lighter than debt they could do is have an NPC walk by, point and laugh before you can go to the hospital or base." -Memphis_Bill
We will honor the past, and fight to the last, it will be a good way to die...
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Screws up camping, going out of town, crashing at a friends place over night unless you plan for it and then bug someone else at work to do it.
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Originally Posted by DarkGob
Logging in really quick for 5 minutes to flip a switch = literally tying yourself to your computer all day long.
Okay. Glad we cleared that up. |
Orc&Pie No.53230 There is an orc, and somehow, he got a pie. And you are hungry.
www.repeat-offenders.net
Negaduck: I see you found the crumb. I knew you'd never notice the huge flag.
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Building a cubicle fort sounds like more fun than any of that.
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Originally Posted by Rajani Isa
Screws up camping, going out of town, crashing at a friends place over night unless you plan for it and then bug someone else at work to do it.
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Goodbye may seem forever
Farewell is like the end
But in my heart's the memory
And there you'll always be
-- The Fox and the Hound
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But the coworkers get upset when you steel their stuff to help build the walls.
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Originally Posted by Tenzhi
Building a cubicle fort sounds like more fun than any of that.
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Orc&Pie No.53230 There is an orc, and somehow, he got a pie. And you are hungry.
www.repeat-offenders.net
Negaduck: I see you found the crumb. I knew you'd never notice the huge flag.
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Wow, you must make some bad-*** office forts... |
Originally Posted by Rajani Isa
But the coworkers get upset when you steel their stuff to help build the walls.
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Originally Posted by ShadowNate
;_; ?!?! What the heck is wrong with you, my god, I have never been so confused in my life!
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And they'll learn an abject lesson about tying you to a computer... that lesson being to use a shorter rope.
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Originally Posted by Rajani Isa
But the coworkers get upset when you steel their stuff to help build the walls.
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Goodbye may seem forever
Farewell is like the end
But in my heart's the memory
And there you'll always be
-- The Fox and the Hound
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how about to wipe his butt?
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Originally Posted by SinisterDirge
It's crazy what one can do with a cell phone these days. I can control my boss's whole house with mine. I don't expect extra from him to fix his tv settings remotely.
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The Nethergoat Archive: all my memories, all my characters, all my thoughts on CoH...eventually.
My City Was Gone
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yes, it's simply awful when the proles get uppity about being paid for their labor.
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Originally Posted by DarkGob
Some people derive value from going above and beyond the base expectations of their job, although I guess there are fewer and fewer people like that nowadays.
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The Nethergoat Archive: all my memories, all my characters, all my thoughts on CoH...eventually.
My City Was Gone
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I agree completely. People are acting like the Earth is so large that it's possible for people living outside the USA to be in different time zones and even be the next/previous day at the same time.|
Originally Posted by TonyV
I'd agree, except they call it Freebie FRIDAY, yet for most of the player base, practically speaking, you have to log in on THURSDAY to get it. It's confusing.
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What next? Are the people gonna try to claim that when it's winter in the US they are haveing summer below the equator?
Bunch of crazy complaining nutters.
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Please tell me you mess with his head by randomly changing the channels when he's trying to watch tv at home.
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Originally Posted by SinisterDirge
It's crazy what one can do with a cell phone these days. I can control my boss's whole house with mine. I don't expect extra from him to fix his tv settings remotely.
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Since 79% of Freebie Friday falls on Friday in the EST zone of the US....not seeing any misrepresentation 
It is a freebie...and if you can't be bothered to log in for 24 hours well then it doesn't mean that much to you. I personally just mentally tell myself it is Freebie Thursday and when I log in on Thursday evening run to the store and click to redeem my lil freebie
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Originally Posted by Paladiamors
I love you, I Burnt the Toast!
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Is it written that you have to have time to play when you log in?
Log in for two minutes before you go to work or school on Friday morning. Problems solved.
Loose --> not tight.
Lose --> Did not win, misplace, cannot find, subtract.
One extra 'o' makes a big difference.
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Which is why you *gasp* always have a backup when someone is unavailable. It's not rocket surgery, folks. Is it really the case that this many people simply suck at work?|
Originally Posted by Rajani Isa
Screws up camping, going out of town, crashing at a friends place over night unless you plan for it and then bug someone else at work to do it.
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By the same token, I agree with White Hot Flash; just because you don't have time to play during Freebie Friday doesn't necessarily mean that you can't just log in really quick and grab the shiny. If they ditch the idiotically inaccurate name then yeah, there would be no reason to have the event disabled at a later time.
"You don't lose levels. You don't have equipment to wear out, repair, or lose, or that anyone can steal from you. About the only thing lighter than debt they could do is have an NPC walk by, point and laugh before you can go to the hospital or base." -Memphis_Bill
We will honor the past, and fight to the last, it will be a good way to die...
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I hate to break the new to you DarkGob, but the name is 100% accurate.|
Originally Posted by DarkGob
If they ditch the idiotically inaccurate name then yeah, there would be no reason to have the event disabled at a later time.
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4PM PDT (Pacific Daylight Time) on Thursday in the US of A is 12AM BST (British Summer Time) Friday in Europe.
Freebie Friday starts on Fridays at 12AM BST and ends 24 hour later at 12AM BST.
I applaud the devs for running this feature on EU time for a change. Far too often EU and Aussie players have to suffer things being run on American time zones.
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Originally Posted by DarkGob
Which is why you *gasp* always have a backup when someone is unavailable. It's not rocket surgery, folks. Is it really the case that this many people simply suck at work?
By the same token, I agree with White Hot Flash; just because you don't have time to play during Freebie Friday doesn't necessarily mean that you can't just log in really quick and grab the shiny. If they ditch the idiotically inaccurate name then yeah, there would be no reason to have the event disabled at a later time. |
1) Automate the scheduling process, don't manually operate it.
2) Its advertised as Freebie Friday - not Freebie Friday on Thursday Nights and Friday Morning Coffee Break. People expect the event to be available as advertised. Its not the customer's fault if the advertised timeline doesn't match the actual timeframe.
If they can't manage their own marketing promo, then don't bother doing it.
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As has been made abundantly clear, the event does in fact start on Friday as advertised. It isn't the companies fault if you live in a different timezone than the one the event starts in.|
Originally Posted by Rubberlad
2) Its advertised as Freebie Friday - not Freebie Friday on Thursday Nights and Friday Morning Coffee Break. People expect the event to be available as advertised. Its not the customer's fault if the advertised timeline doesn't match the actual timeframe.
If they can't manage their own marketing promo, then don't bother doing it. |
This game is INTERNATIONAL. It has customers spanning the entire world. There will always be a difference in timezones
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...which is why you automate the process per regional server so *everyone* gets the same 24hr window of opportunity regardless of country or timezone. We are dealing with IT engineers here, so this shouldn't be rocket science...|
Originally Posted by Forbin_Project
As has been made abundantly clear, the event does in fact start on Friday as advertised. It isn't the companies fault if you live in a different timezone than the one the event starts in.
This game is INTERNATIONAL. It has customers spanning the entire world. There will always be a difference in timezones |
Wait, why am I arguing with a squirrel?
The system has automation, however it's not reliable. So rather than risk it *not* working correctly, we run the process manually.
Please keep in mind that this is a *test* program. It will only run for a limited time, then we'll evaluate the metrics we gather from it and possibly implement it in a much more polished fashion. For the time being, we're going to maintain the current cadence of events.
-Z
Andy Belford
Community Manager
Paragon Studios
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I'd like to say that I consider the current schedule OK and would like to request that you guys continue to give us free stuff.
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Originally Posted by Zwillinger
The system has automation, however it's not reliable. So rather than risk it *not* working correctly, we run the process manually.
Please keep in mind that this is a *test* program. It will only run for a limited time, then we'll evaluate the metrics we gather from it and possibly implement it in a much more polished fashion. For the time being, we're going to maintain the current cadence of events. -Z |
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He tends to have that effect on people, in my experience. I've begun to wonder if he or his avatar are SCP material... |
Originally Posted by Rubberlad
Wait, why am I arguing with a squirrel?
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Goodbye may seem forever
Farewell is like the end
But in my heart's the memory
And there you'll always be
-- The Fox and the Hound
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1. The servers are all in the same location and have been for same time now, and even before they physically moved the servers and merged the server lists we frequently encountered EU and Aussie players on NA servers.|
Originally Posted by Rubberlad
...which is why you automate the process per regional server so *everyone* gets the same 24hr window of opportunity regardless of country or timezone. We are dealing with IT engineers here, so this shouldn't be rocket science...
Wait, why am I arguing with a squirrel? |
2. Everybody currently has the same 24 hour window regardless of country and timezone.
3. If a person can't find 3 minutes out of a 24 hour period to log into the game to claim a free item then they have bigger problems to worry about than what timezone an event starts in.
I'd rather it run on Thursdays my time than not at all. I just think that with a simple name change or other relatively minor accommodating tweak, it would be much less confusing.
The simple fact of the matter is that Freebie Friday ends before most people get home from work, which is arguably when most people play the game. When you tell someone that they're going to get something for free on Friday, they log on as soon as they get home, and find out that it's over already, they'll probably fell a bit sour even though they're technically not any worse off than they were before. That's just human nature.
The thing that I'm stressing here isn't that the world will end if it's not changed, or that as it exists now it's a slap in the face, or anything like that. I'm just saying that with a very tiny modicum of effort, the issue could be avoided altogether.
We've been saving Paragon City for eight and a half years. It's time to do it one more time.
(If you love this game as much as I do, please read that post.)
Everything I've done outside of normal work hours (mostly working the ticket gate at sporting events or working the Reserved Seating entrance at the football games) was purely voluntary and I was compensated extra for my time.
I believe the infringement on employees off-work time is also the reason they changed the scheduling of the updates to the Paragon Market.
EDIT: Friday night is one of the two days of the week that I'd NEVER ask an employee to have to interrupt their off-hours plans every week. Saturday would be the other day.