First Official Stills of The Lizard!
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Agent White,
Posted on: 2012-05-02 21:59 in Comic and Hero-Villain Culture
Damn, that's cool looking. Glad they kept his lab coat on!
I've seen a head on shot, and while I think the look is good enough that I won't complain vehemently about it, in said shots his face is too human.
Also, I find myself surprisingly optimistic about the movie in general. So far it looks to me like it could potentially be much better than the last three.
Goodbye may seem forever
Farewell is like the end
But in my heart's the memory
And there you'll always be
-- The Fox and the Hound
The lab coat makes The Lizard look a lot better, but they definitely needed to give him more of a pronounced snout, like a komodo dragon at least.
Still, I can't bring myself to feel too optimistic about this one, what with the aforementioned issues of The Lizard's look, the changes to Spider-Man's costume, and simply not having enough hype left for this movie after Avengers, Dark Knight Rises, and Prometheus.
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So they can manage to get the Lizard his lab coat, but can't get Spidey's costume right?
Pssshhh.
Est sularis oth Mithas
As long as the Lizard doesn't eat Connor's son in the movie.....when that line was crossed in the comics I was rather appalled.
Ah Sony. Still seeing what source you can milk the cash cow from, eh? 
I'm grateful that they're fulfilling the promise from the prior Spider-Man movies to use the Lizard, but surely ten years is just a bit too soon to reboot an entire movie series? Just me, I suppose....
S.
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If they make the snout to large, then many shots will only have one eye visible, impeding the level emotion that can be conveyed - especially if they are mo-capping the actor's performance.|
Originally Posted by CaptainFoamerang
The lab coat makes The Lizard look a lot better, but they definitely needed to give him more of a pronounced snout, like a komodo dragon at least.
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I expect they feel that a more expressive face beats 100% comic book authenticity.
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Considering most of his emotion as the lizard should be GRR SNARL HISS. It shouldn't even be considered a problem. The lizard is a -monster-. Monsters shouldn't be emotive. We want to feel sympathy for the man trapped within, not the monster without. We want to -fear- the monster, which should be -de-humanized.
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Originally Posted by PRAF68_EU
If they make the snout to large, then many shots will only have one eye visible, impeding the level emotion that can be conveyed - especially if they are mo-capping the actor's performance.
I expect they feel that a more expressive face beats 100% comic book authenticity. |
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I was under the impression it had to do with retaining the rights to make Movies based on this IP. It's my understanding in the movie industry that you have to make movies regularly, otherwise the owner of the IP gets the license back, and has the option of leasing it to another film studio.|
Originally Posted by SuperOz
Ah Sony. Still seeing what source you can milk the cash cow from, eh?
I'm grateful that they're fulfilling the promise from the prior Spider-Man movies to use the Lizard, but surely ten years is just a bit too soon to reboot an entire movie series? Just me, I suppose....S. |
I'm not positive though! For myself, I think this film is looking better than I anticipated, but I'm not sure I'm ready for more Spiderman already.
~Freitag
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You can't get much more emotionless than the rubber headed monsters of the 1950s, and they don't do much to invoke fear.|
Originally Posted by Agent White
Considering most of his emotion as the lizard should be GRR SNARL HISS. It shouldn't even be considered a problem. The lizard is a -monster-. Monsters shouldn't be emotive. We want to feel sympathy for the man trapped within, not the monster without. We want to -fear- the monster, which should be -de-humanized.
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Anyway, most lizards have long snouts with eyes on the side because they are prey. And therefore non-scary. Forward facing eyes are the mark of a predator.
I really should do something about this signature.
When done right, people don't seem to have problems with reboots of cartoons. But a problem with reboots of movies?
Now admittedly, Sam and Toby could of likely done more (and better if the studio stayed out of it).
However, I'm thinking this reboot is looking pretty good so far. At the very least, it looks like Spidey has regained his wisecracking.
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I'd tend to agree, however, given the prior offerings I'll be happy to have a reboot if it turns out to be enjoyable.
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Originally Posted by SuperOz
Ah Sony. Still seeing what source you can milk the cash cow from, eh?
I'm grateful that they're fulfilling the promise from the prior Spider-Man movies to use the Lizard, but surely ten years is just a bit too soon to reboot an entire movie series? Just me, I suppose....S. |
Goodbye may seem forever
Farewell is like the end
But in my heart's the memory
And there you'll always be
-- The Fox and the Hound
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I tell you what I'm sick of: Origin stories.|
Originally Posted by Tenzhi
I'd tend to agree, however, given the prior offerings I'll be happy to have a reboot if it turns out to be enjoyable.
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Unless it's a character I'm unfamiliar with, I don't need to hear their origin story.
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Just about.|
Originally Posted by Freitag
I was under the impression it had to do with retaining the rights to make Movies based on this IP. It's my understanding in the movie industry that you have to make movies regularly, otherwise the owner of the IP gets the license back, and has the option of leasing it to another film studio.
I'm not positive though! For myself, I think this film is looking better than I anticipated, but I'm not sure I'm ready for more Spiderman already. ~Freitag |
Usually, when someone pays to "retain the rights" to an IP, there's are clauses which state how many years may go by without action in the IP before the agreement essentially terminates. From what I've heard, these are growing to become something closer to chapters as studios learned to play games with the wording to escape the clause (make a feature-length film but never release it... make a junk movie on an indie-film-like budget with limited distribution just to stay legitimate, etc).
Every contract deal can be different, though... and even lead to some mental gymnastics and complications to the script writer-- like a license for Spider Man to one studio, but a license for the villain "Kingpin" to another meaning that they can't use references to Kingpin in any Spidey script unless Kingpin's license reverts.
I saw the new trailer for the new Spider-Man movie and I must say it has me more interested than the previous one (oh no, you found my weakness! small sharp knives! 
) I do have a question or two about it I guess.
I remember watching the 90s Spider-Man cartoons but don't really remember anything about Peter Parker's mom-and-dad. Were his parents so pivotal in something?
Thinking about it now, I can maybe, kind-of-sort-of remember an episode or two where his father was a scientist and was reported as a double agent and was working for the USSR; Spidey goes to Russia to find the truth and I think that's where he finds out that it was false and his father was a triple-agent (working for the US government but acting like he was working for the USSR)?
Right, wrong?
Does his parents matter that much to his story?
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I vaguely recalled something similar, so had to look it up. Agents of SHIELD?|
Originally Posted by Energizing_Ion
I saw the new trailer for the new Spider-Man movie and I must say it has me more interested than the previous one (oh no, you found my weakness! small sharp knives!
) I do have a question or two about it I guess.I remember watching the 90s Spider-Man cartoons but don't really remember anything about Peter Parker's mom-and-dad. Were his parents so pivotal in something? Thinking about it now, I can maybe, kind-of-sort-of remember an episode or two where his father was a scientist and was reported as a double agent and was working for the USSR; Spidey goes to Russia to find the truth and I think that's where he finds out that it was false and his father was a triple-agent (working for the US government but acting like he was working for the USSR)? Right, wrong? Does his parents matter that much to his story? |
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Richard_and_Mary_Parker
EDIT: From the sound of it, they're using something closer to the "ultimate" spidey series, where Dad's a scientist working on the same field that Curt Connors is in. Makes sense, as IIRC another studio's got license to the "shield" stuff...
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It's a part of his story, I wouldn't say it's important to his origin. Though I think what they're doing is combine that story with his origin.|
Originally Posted by Energizing_Ion
I saw the new trailer for the new Spider-Man movie and I must say it has me more interested than the previous one (oh no, you found my weakness! small sharp knives!
) I do have a question or two about it I guess.I remember watching the 90s Spider-Man cartoons but don't really remember anything about Peter Parker's mom-and-dad. Were his parents so pivotal in something? Thinking about it now, I can maybe, kind-of-sort-of remember an episode or two where his father was a scientist and was reported as a double agent and was working for the USSR; Spidey goes to Russia to find the truth and I think that's where he finds out that it was false and his father was a triple-agent (working for the US government but acting like he was working for the USSR)? Right, wrong? Does his parents matter that much to his story? |
Can't recall, but may also be how they went with his origin story in the Ultimate Universe.
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Que? most lizards eat bugs, komodo dragons eat just about everything that walks under their perch, up to and including large mammals. I cant think of any lizard that is not a predator(edit, ok apparently the crested gecko can be entirely herbivorous) . maybe not an apex predator, but they are definitely several steps up in the food chain.
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Originally Posted by PRAF68_EU
You can't get much more emotionless than the rubber headed monsters of the 1950s, and they don't do much to invoke fear.
Anyway, most lizards have long snouts with eyes on the side because they are prey. And therefore non-scary. Forward facing eyes are the mark of a predator. |
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Indeed. Every time they put a new face on Bond they don't laboriously go through an origin.
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Originally Posted by PRAF68_EU
I tell you what I'm sick of: Origin stories.
Unless it's a character I'm unfamiliar with, I don't need to hear their origin story. |
Goodbye may seem forever
Farewell is like the end
But in my heart's the memory
And there you'll always be
-- The Fox and the Hound
Amazing!!!
Who said that i was that scary! ಠ_ಠ