All Things Character Art

I want to repeat an OOOLD suggestion of mine that never saw the light of day. Well, two suggestions, in fact:

1. Giant gauntlet as a "shield" option for shield defence. I'm talking something big enough to encompass most small gloves completely. Examples of this exist in spades, from War's left gauntlet that he blocks with to something as classic as Lion-O's magic gauntlet which holds the sword of omens and, crucially, which holds the Spirit Stone and generates a forcefield with which he blocks incoming attacks. I'm not well enough versed in comic books, but I'm sure there are plenty of examples of characters using metal gloves to block with. Say... Didn't Wonder Woman use metal vambraces for that?

This glove doesn't need to animate its fingers, and can be drawn in a perpetual static fist. That makes sense, considering that a character with a shield out right now has his or her left hand clenched in a perpetual fist, so no open-palm animations are relevant and thus the glove will never need to be animated, itself. I've seen the power system gain the ability to mess with our costumes before, via the ooold Freakshow Disguise that actually does attach a pair of giant metal gauntlets to our hands, so this should be possible. Speaking of which, the first glove I'll ask for is the Freak Swiper glove.

Now, a couple of things can be argued. Firstly, that we already have giant gloves in the costume editor. While that may be true, we can only have those asymmetrically only on the RIGHT hand, whereas it's the left that typically guards with a shield. Secondly, There's no way to guard with the glove itself, because Shield Defence mandates a shield out at all times. Lastly, I want this glove to show up only when the shield is drawn. All of these make a glove as a power prop plausible, and it's something we can customize via weapon customization as we customize shields already.

2. I want all of the same, but for both hands and as a weapon option for Claws. Once upon a time, BABs went through all Claws powers and ensured they used a closed fist animation, making "finger claws" impossible to do, aside from the fact that we lack fingers. To my eyes, a gauntlet big enough to cover at least an entire Tights/Bare glove, with claw-like fingers would do the job. As before, the "fingers" don't need to be animated, since we never interact with anything with Claws out and the claws disappear when we fire off other powers. As such, the glove's claws can always be stuck in a perpetual "clawing" gesture, with the hand open and the fingers pointing out and down.

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In both cases, clipping becomes an issue, since we have absurdly large gloves in the editor already, and making one which would be bigger than those by enough to always cover them would make the gloves unwieldy big. I get that. There are two ways I'd suggest solving this. Either just... Ignore it and let us take care of clipping on our own, or simply make the gauntlet scape up in size with the size of the glove holding it. Either would work, since it would empower us to pick what looks good and avoid what looks bad without forcing you to throw away the baby with the bathwater. If at all possible, I might suggest simply replacing the entire glove option with that gauntlet, but I don't know how that would work.

I bring this up because Bio Armour already does this to a large extent by covering up our hands and our feet. It clips with some bigger gloves and boots and it is kind of bulky, but it still looks very good. If that was made, surely a few extra weapon models for Shield and Claws can be tossed in, as well.

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Originally Posted by Arcanaville Samuel_Tow is the only poster that makes me want to punch him in the head more often when I'm agreeing with him than when I'm disagreeing with him.

Could we get a little more viciousness in the wolves in the Beast MM set? Something a little more like this;

I'd be happy enough to just make my animal people close their mouths. The constant sad grimacing must be murder on their jaws.

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Originally Posted by Arcanaville Samuel_Tow is the only poster that makes me want to punch him in the head more often when I'm agreeing with him than when I'm disagreeing with him.

I just found what I think is a problem with the Clunker aura, but I don't think it's a bug so much as an oversight. Specifically, my beef is with the Path version of the aura. I want to open with an example so I can talk about it below:



Notice where the character is in the above pic and where the aura is below him. And do try to resist any toilet humour jokes, I know what it looks like. Now, under normal conditions - that is, character standing up straight, the oil gathers at his feet, as it should if it's dripping from his body. The problem, however, is that where the oil slicks form isn't "below the body parts that emanate them," but rather "below the centre of the character's collision box." The difference between the two is that the former follows the character's model as it animates outside of its collision box and the latter does not.

That's the problem in the pic - in a basic combat stance, the character leans far forward of his collision box, carrying his torso forward. As the torso is where the trips originate from, it looks like the oil should be dripping much farther forward than it is. Rather than move forward to follow the torso, however, the oil slicks continue to spawn in random locations around their normal location, forming far behind anything that's actually dripping. Of course, in this case Kragoss has a pair of Draconic Wings, but they aren't dripping and the effect is the same without the wings.

I suggest that, if at all possible, the Clunker Path aura should be tied to the character model's torso, rather than the character's coordinates in the overall world.

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Originally Posted by Arcanaville Samuel_Tow is the only poster that makes me want to punch him in the head more often when I'm agreeing with him than when I'm disagreeing with him.

At the suggestion of Samuel_Tow, cross-posting this from another thread:

So were there any plans to finish the bird costume pieces? We got a couple of heads, thanks. A few beaks, nice. We already had wings, thanks. Talons, check. But...

...feathered tails?
...feathered chest?
...feathered pants? (bonus points if they blend with the talon Monstrous legs)
...feathered arms?
...some kind of talony-glove that blended with the feathered arm?

Also "nice to have" (but not strictly necessary, though would bring birds up to par with cats):

...bird texture patterns (i.e. like the Cheetah and Jaguar spot patterms, only pick a few bird patterns). For the record I could argue wolves and bovines need their own texture patterns too.
...wing color variants: instead of strictly the "edge color" and "trailing" color we have now, add a couple other variants from the bird world

Also nice, wing emotes:

--/em wingdisplay -- wings open out straight and up at 45° angle and hold

--/em wingspread -- similar to wingdisplay only out at a 90° angle (wing edge parallel to ground)

--/em wingflap -- some variant of the "few flaps before landing" animation, just one that we can trigger while on the ground. Imagine how annoyed birds sit there and flap their wings a few times.

--/em wingpoint -- some kind of "pointing at you" with the arm AND wing pointing

--/em wingthreaten -- I can visualize in my head but hard to desribe, but it would be like /em angry only incorporate the wings

Just seems to me there are alot of emotes that would be fun to have a "winged" variant...right now the wings are kinda passive outside flying and jumping. Not complaining, the wings and all their various animations are VERY cool. I still marvel at them all these years later.

Still, wolves, cats, and bulls got their Monstrous Fur and Animal Fur, and a number of tails and animated tails. The avians seems to have gotten only half, or even less than half, their due.

Animal pack 2





Head

• Monkey

1. Gorilla
2. Chimp
3. Monkey (Hair length change)

• Raccoon
• Reptile

1. Iguana (tall or short spiles, dewlap, patterns)
2. Chameleon (nose horn, head horns, nose & head horns, veil, patterns
3. Crockadile (nose shape and length)

• Amphibian (salamander or frog shape, patterns)

• Bird
• Monkey
• Raccoon
• Iguana
• Croc
• Chameleon
• Salamander

• Webbed hands & feet
• Patterns

• Spines
• Patterns

• Shed Skin

Originally Posted by CFIndustries
At the suggestion of Samuel_Tow, cross-posting this from another thread:

So were there any plans to finish the bird costume pieces? We got a couple of heads, thanks. A few beaks, nice. We already had wings, thanks. Talons, check. But...

...feathered tails?
...feathered chest?
...feathered pants? (bonus points if they blend with the talon Monstrous legs)
...feathered arms?
...some kind of talony-glove that blended with the feathered arm?

Also "nice to have" (but not strictly necessary, though would bring birds up to par with cats):

...bird texture patterns (i.e. like the Cheetah and Jaguar spot patterms, only pick a few bird patterns). For the record I could argue wolves and bovines need their own texture patterns too.
...wing color variants: instead of strictly the "edge color" and "trailing" color we have now, add a couple other variants from the bird world

Also nice, wing emotes:

--/em wingdisplay -- wings open out straight and up at 45° angle and hold

--/em wingspread -- similar to wingdisplay only out at a 90° angle (wing edge parallel to ground)

--/em wingflap -- some variant of the "few flaps before landing" animation, just one that we can trigger while on the ground. Imagine how annoyed birds sit there and flap their wings a few times.

--/em wingpoint -- some kind of "pointing at you" with the arm AND wing pointing

--/em wingthreaten -- I can visualize in my head but hard to desribe, but it would be like /em angry only incorporate the wings

Just seems to me there are alot of emotes that would be fun to have a "winged" variant...right now the wings are kinda passive outside flying and jumping. Not complaining, the wings and all their various animations are VERY cool. I still marvel at them all these years later.

Still, wolves, cats, and bulls got their Monstrous Fur and Animal Fur, and a number of tails and animated tails. The avians seems to have gotten only half, or even less than half, their due.

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Originally Posted by Entropy_Aegis ....please god yes on everything in this post.

Yes! Please!

Also, i would like the option to use leg patterns with the barbian bottoms. You can only make solid colors at the moment.

Speaking of emotes, we can't be a comic book game without the typical "Hips never stop swaying" pose

Quivers. We have backpacks, jetpacks, wings, trick archers, arrow blasters, and ninja masterminds. None of them have a quiver to keep their arrows in though.

Backpack quivers like Green Lanterns from Justice League, or more traditional, would be awesome.

On the pipe dream side of things. It would be awesome to have "sheathes" as a costume option for the weapon characters. Since the power sets all draw their weapon from the same side the sheathe could rest there on the model. When the weapon is active (combat mode) the sheathe is empty. When the weapon is inactive (non-combat mode) the sheathe has the weapon in it. Alternatively, just sheathed weapons we can wear, but never use, to look like we're more armed/etc. Like how the police belt gives my character a handgun and a nightstick but neither of which ever is used in game. still looks cool

Since I was enlightened to this thread, adding my other pet peeve as a player of non-humans:

Far, far, FAR too many of the lower body options are not available to players if they are using the Monstrous legs. And for that matter I believe Monstrous chest and gloves also come-up short (I just happen to notice "pants" issues more in my costume designs).

For the life of me I can't figure out why either. Unless troubleshooting clipping/fitting issues is incredibly difficult. Seems a shame though that they added digitgrade legs and then left us with a limited selection of lower body options.

I honestly think it should just be s standard part of the costume design for lower body parts:

--Male Human. Check.
--Female Human. Check.
--Huge Human. Check.
--Male Monstrous. Check.
--Female Monstrous. Check.
--Huge Monstrous. Check.

In other words, I think of this as a process issue and less of a design issue. The Monstrous parts have been left out of the standard process.

This way Monstrous users get everything as it's designed, aside from pieces with totally irreconcilable clipping issues.

(And honestly, even then I don't mind clipping issues as much as some people do, as long as the clipping is "reasonable," such as overlaps and such.)

Less anime themed items please.
More of items the NPC's in the game have. Say....Cimemoran sybil costume pieces. They've been ported to the new Knives of Vengeance mobs and Banished Pantheon mobs....please let us have them?
This would require two things, first.....fingernail claws. Which would need separated fingers.
I also get firmly behind the idea of more muscular female models. Although, the pictures I've seen so far.....aren't thick enough. What I'm talking about is more like the art in this pic: http://www.comicartcommunity.com/gal...14&mode=search