Paragon Studios Twitter Spam
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Posted on: 2012-04-26 10:13 in CoH and CoV General Discussions
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Indeed...the notion of Twitter as news channel is a fairly recent development, largely unforeseen by its creators.
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Originally Posted by Arcanaville
I always assumed that was the purpose behind twitter for the vast majority of twitter users.
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Wait, are we talking about a game or your bank account? |
Originally Posted by Zombie Man
But I just wanted you to know what I'm looking for: The ability to get cell phone notifications of time-sensitive information and big announcements.
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Well, OCR would have to commit themselves to using those tags. In that case, if I can filter such Tweets and have just them notify my cell, I'd love that. But they'd have to avoid the temptation to misuse tags to bypass people using filters.|
Originally Posted by Arcanaville
I always assumed that was the purpose behind twitter for the vast majority of twitter users. But for those that want a more focused communications channel, wouldn't something like tweetdeck or another twitter filter work? If OCR tagged all the important notifications with a special hashtag, couldn't a twitter filter be used to limit the amount of forwarded notifications?
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Originally Posted by Nethergoat
Indeed...the notion of Twitter as news channel is a fairly recent development, largely unforeseen by its creators.
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I put a strong boundary with family and friends over splurge email and re-re-forwards and hoax virus alerts so as not to deal with email saturation. I have no problem setting the same boundaries with business associates.
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Exactly the reason hashtags won't work.|
Originally Posted by Zombie Man
Not another whacky conversation channel.
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Admin Chat in game turns into this sometimes. Sup red writing in all your chat tabs about 4chan memes
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But what about the CoH Myspace Page?!|
Originally Posted by Zwillinger
More to the point:
Social Media is a *constantly* evolving thing. We will perpetually be testing new ideas, new approaches and emerging technology and trends via all of our Social Media Platforms. This could mean new platforms, such as Pinterest or Ustream, or new technology that makes sharing more interactive. It's a brave new world, and the City of Heroes Community team will *always* be adapting and working to be on the cutting edge. |
Huh?! C'mon, man! You're letting down your trailing-edge peeps just to look cool!
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Hashtags are all well and good until you run out of characters (140 isn't much). |
Originally Posted by Jet_Boy
Might I suggest to Zwill that if they are going to use Twitter as a full blown communications medium, that they consider using hash tags. Simple tags like #cohannounce and #cohupdate, would make it much easier to seperate the wheat from the chaff.
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We'll look into some we can use more regularly, however no guarantees.
Edit: Black Pebble pointed out that I misspelled "hashtag"
Andy Belford
Community Manager
Paragon Studios
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Originally Posted by Casual_Player
But what about the CoH Myspace Page?!
Huh?! C'mon, man! You're letting down your trailing-edge peeps just to look cool! (need I print out the winkie? I'd better: ) |
Andy Belford
Community Manager
Paragon Studios
I just don't get why tweets of the dev digest are so delayed - hours and hours later after they hit the forums.
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That's done by a fan actually, and it pulls off of the RSS feed. |
Originally Posted by JayboH
I just don't get why tweets of the dev digest are so delayed - hours and hours later after they hit the forums.
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Paragon has nothing to do with that Twitter feed.
Andy Belford
Community Manager
Paragon Studios
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I guess I think of it as a funtime game I play and not so much a business.|
Originally Posted by Zombie Man
True. But when a business has a Twitter feed, what was expected? Should I have been Tweeting back to their channel telling them how my day was and what I'm wearing? It's only fair if I have to read about meat on a stick.
I put a strong boundary with family and friends over splurge email and re-re-forwards and hoax virus alerts so as not to deal with email saturation. I have no problem setting the same boundaries with business associates. |
If I were following my bank I'd probably have different expectations and balk at extraneous frivolity...but following my superhero video game, I'm okay with pretty much whateves.
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As a side note, there is an option on Twitter to not be able to receive retweets from specific users.
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Which is actually very handy. I've found that the CoH twitter account isn't too bad without getting bombed by 5 or so "OMG I LOVE CITY OF HEROES" retweets in a row every now and again.|
Originally Posted by Bubbawheat
As a side note, there is an option on Twitter to not be able to receive retweets from specific users.
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And as a sidenote, I don't think Twitter was/is supposed to be used a medium for news. I blame companies using it as such and not having an actual outlet on their own website for that one.
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Yes, actually, it was. It's always been just another channel to relay news.
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Originally Posted by Zombie Man
It's clear you want that Twitter account to be exactly like your Facebook account or the forums. That's not what Twitter is about. Or at least, that's not what that Twitter account was originally for.
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Especially since this is the OCR team. |
Originally Posted by Nethergoat
I guess I think of it as a funtime game I play and not so much a business.
If I were following my bank I'd probably have different expectations and balk at extraneous frivolity...but following my superhero video game, I'm okay with pretty much whateves. |
Maybe see if @ParagonCityNews is taken, and make that into a event/emergency/etc twitter?
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And I think this is perfectly reasonable, but you wording it that way made me realize...|
Originally Posted by Nethergoat
I guess I think of it as a funtime game I play and not so much a business.
If I were following my bank I'd probably have different expectations and balk at extraneous frivolity...but following my superhero video game, I'm okay with pretty much whateves. |
This is Zombie Man we are talking about (not a dig... wait for it)... And we certainly all benefit from his obsessive, business-like approach to all things CoH.
So, while it doesn't change my opinions on the matter (not like they matter!), it does shed a bit of light on it.
Zombie... Don't worry about the tweets... your spy devices should bring you all the information you'd need far better than twitter.
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I should program my bugs to search for key phrases and send me cell phone notifications...
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Originally Posted by Electric-Knight
And I think this is perfectly reasonable, but you wording it that way made me realize...
This is Zombie Man we are talking about (not a dig... wait for it)... And we certainly all benefit from his obsessive, business-like approach to all things CoH. So, while it doesn't change my opinions on the matter (not like they matter!), it does shed a bit of light on it. Zombie... Don't worry about the tweets... your spy devices should bring you all the information you'd need far better than twitter. |
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My approach to Twitter is generally to not approach Twitter. |
Originally Posted by Zwillinger
Our approach to Twitter is not to use it as a means of notifying of emergency or immediate issues, but rather as another way to engage our Community.
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Farewell is like the end
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I've found that the people who get really bent out of shape about "Twitter as news" tend to have the idea that news channel was always its primary intent and, indeed, the only valid use of it. THAT is an erroneous take on it, at least in my opinion. The original design never intended that it be primarily a news channel, or even secondarily a news channel. It always was, and is, a chat channel. It just happens to be a chat channel that copies the text messaging paradigm and also happens to lend itself to being a news distribution channel.|
Originally Posted by Tyger42
Yes, actually, it was. It's always been just another channel to relay news.
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I've also found that many people who take the "Twitter as news" stance are more interested in distributing tons of news articles as a way of increasing their post count and retweet count more than as a way of truly communicating with anyone else. It boils down to status for them. I say "many", not all or even "most". I've met many fine people on Twitter who were "newsies" but who also took the time to interact with people who responded to them.
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Thank you for keepin' us engaged.|
Originally Posted by Zwillinger
Our approach to Twitter is not to use it as a means of notifying of emergency or immediate issues, but rather as another way to engage our Community. This means we'll be having conversations with people who reply to our Tweets, finding people talking about City of Heroes on Twitter and talking with them and otherwise finding fun ways to utilize it to make COH a fun experience even when you're not in game.
I'm sincerely hopeful you, and many others, will choose to join us in this conversation, however if this isn't what you're looking for, I understand. |
Keep it up, please.
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This is more or less why I've always disliked social networking sites boiled down to a few sentences. I really have no interest in watching people off-topic chatting. This isn't down to any business-like approach or question of time investment, but rather more because I hate fun and people having fun bug me.|
Originally Posted by Zwillinger
Our approach to Twitter is not to use it as a means of notifying of emergency or immediate issues, but rather as another way to engage our Community. This means we'll be having conversations with people who reply to our Tweets, finding people talking about City of Heroes on Twitter and talking with them and otherwise finding fun ways to utilize it to make COH a fun experience even when you're not in game.
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Wait, let me try that again. It's because when it comes to official communication channels, I'm really only looking for information or development-related dialogue. This isn't unique to Twitter, either. I have a habit of skipping red-name posts about upcoming books or movies or fantasy football (of all things...) and why I to scroll past "tangents" in Von Krieger's Ustream write-ups, as well as why I skip "What is your favourite X?" in developer interviews. This kind of stuff doesn't interest me even when it's about my close friends.
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Originally Posted by Arcanaville
Samuel_Tow is the only poster that makes me want to punch him in the head more often when I'm agreeing with him than when I'm disagreeing with him.
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That right there is almost sig-worthy. |
Originally Posted by Samuel_Tow
I hate fun and people having fun bug me.
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Goodbye may seem forever
Farewell is like the end
But in my heart's the memory
And there you'll always be
-- The Fox and the Hound
As Zwill said, Twitter is a great way for devs to interact with the community. I've learned a lot from it because I check Twitter multiple times a day, as well as Facebook, but only read the forums maybe once or twice per week at most. If you're the opposite, then maybe Twitter isn't the preferred social media platform for you.
As a social service, Twitter works to connect companies and celebrities with fans, clients, users, etc.; whatever term applies to the situation. Having Twitter open up a dialogue in the way that it does is huge for PR, and one of the main reasons that the website even exists. As others have said, it's not just for news. It's a two-way street, a way of sharing information, comments, concerns, and questions.
There's a convincing argument that Paragon need two twitter feeds: Status and News... status can be updates and server info etc whilst news can be the general news feed. That allows everyone to follow the feed they want without there being an issue
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What would be worth putting on a Twitter feed (as far as Breaking Announcements goes) that doesn't boil down to "Hey! Go read the Forums right now!!!" ?
If there's a sudden beta event and you're at work, chances are you're gonna miss it any way. Why the need to know about it ritenao if it's something you can't participate in?
The point of any mass media communication medium is to, wait for it, .... get people using it. If more people use it to exchange cookie recipes or talk about their latest RP session on Virtue, great. It's being used. Every use is a win for Paragon Studios. We should be finding MORE ways to community-build, not trying to put limits on what we already have. Limits force more people to stop using it, and overrides any benefit from concentrating the message.
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