Form shifting on beta

This is pretty much the only feature I'm looking forward to in i23. Although I have a TW/Elec Brute who is used for soloing the Ward content, so I'll have a night or two of that too.

Now if some other QoL / revamp stuff comes down the pipeline as well that'd be excellent (TA or Ice Control. I'll accept either)

The form shifting looks great, but the Hybrid power seems to miss the mark of what Hybrid should be doing by a mile. It needs alot of work I think. I dont think changing it from a toggle to a 50% uptime click was the way to fix it either.

Yeah, it can. The Hybrid slot is still a mess, and the devs still won't do what is necessary to make Peacebringers an attractive choice next to the other epic AT options.

/requireddisagreementwithgeko

What can I say, I've always liked mine. And far prefer them to the VEATs in general. (No opinion about hybrid, I'll let people more deeply into Incarnates worry about that.)

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I can dig Warshades. But my Peacebringer was the most painful ride to 50 of any alt so far. By contrast, the 'weakest' of my SoA (the ranged focused Bane) was an absolute joy from 1-50 and was done in a couple of weeks.

My PB and WS rides were near enough identical. It must be you.

And for me, the Veats - both bane and widow - were a slog, not helped by the utter crud that is the so-called storyline. I mean, I enjoyed my Emp/Psi more than those, and she can feel like she takes ten minutes to kill an even-con minion. Twenty if it's a robot of some sort.

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haha love the pic


And hooray for great changes to Khelds! (even though I don't play mine anymore....).

I hear ya, Memphis. The Veats for me have been the least fun of the AT's. Conversely I quite enjoy playing any of my six khelds. (3 of each)

Mileage varies.

Take the Magic: The Gathering 'What Color Are You?' Quiz.

And the majority of the playerbase considering the relative popularity of the class.

So you enjoy poorly designed combos then?

How many times have they had to buff Khelds? Conversely, I'm not sure they've ever even looked at the SoA they work so well.

Storyline??

Oh, the thing you do at 10 in order to get your cossie slot and then completely ignore! I remember that.

I really enjoyed my Fort/Widow and my Shade, both were great fun, with the Shade being a bit better just because it was more versatile. Plus I really disliked the first 26 levels of Widowhood, couldn't get through it quick enough.

For me, I ignore the SoA storyline because they are going to be heroes by level 21 anyway so who cares?

Memphis_Bill's raving about the Kheldian storyline got me to try it once. Most tedious, boring arcs in this game. I literally can't get through them even ignoring the story. Too many kill alls, to many missions, ridiculous story. Bleh.

It's funny, I feel exactly the opposite. Out of each of the different EAT types, Peacebringers have always been the most fun for me to play, followed by Huntsmen (only taking Cloak from Bane), then Warshades, then all of the other Villian iterations.

To be fair, if the Warshade colors were adjustable, it might be a different story. I'm a light over darkness, do the right thing even when it hurts, stand in the gap sort of player. Peacebringers flat out ooze these characteristics and theme. There's something awesome about smacking the bad guy around with pure white energy. More awesome is that I have an outstanding mix of single target melee (I count Blast and Bolt as melee for my PB, since I'm using them when up in someone's face anyway) and AoE abilities. Radiant Strike is that cool of a skill. Not to mention I can run +4x8, solo AV's, etc... without any problem.

The instant form change is going to make it that much more awesome. Now I can (hopefully) revisit my "Peacebringer alpha" of Nova Cone, Nova AoE, Solar Flare in a bambambam nature instead of having to wait for the transition back to human to finish.

Can't wait. Best change in forever.

To be honest my Warshade managed 1 mission of the kheld map.

"Eeew. Council Cave map. It's like Citadel all over again"

My Widow/Fort stayed at Rogue for ages though. I quite liked the extra AOE mez and the ability to go anywhere. Plus I wanted the PPPs opened.

Tip rewards proved too strong a lure in the end though.

They did what? I was so looking forward to more resist, regen, and mez protection for my tankermind who has none of those.

So, if you despise them so much... why are you in this area of the forums again?

And I can't take your complaints about a storyline seriously when you praise the utter lack of one on VEATs.

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VEATs have a story line, it just so happens that 95% of the missions are in fact the same one- "Go get list nao."

You can't derp your way through playing a Kheldian, it's not Willpower. For a lot of people, having an understanding of what you're doing and keeping it in mind while you play isn't attractive compared to the alternative.

Agreed!! More forms = moar power.

Blasters, dominators, defenders, corruptors all play that way too, but aren't saddled with powers that have no synergy, forms that rob you of most of your powers, shields with no mez protection, etc.

The advantage of having played all the ATs to cap ( except MMs - hate them) means I can just lol at your veiled L2P comment. Peacebringers have been broken since their introduction. And to answer Bill's question, I'm here because I hope they will one day actually give this class what it needs.

EDIT: I have to amend my answer to Bill's question. I really don't hope that they will ever fix this class. I gave up, but temporary insanity made me think that it was remotely worth it to argue for Kheldians. It's not. Enjoy folks.