Compensation for Downtime

I eagerly await the people bitterly complaining about how they totally deserve more than the 1.667 paragon points they were credited for the hour of game-time they lost.

People getting free points means people won't buy those points means a financial effect. Clearly you did not think that sentence through.

Originally Posted by Dispari I don't know why Dink thinks she's not as sexy as Jay was. In 5 posts she's already upstaged his entire career.

My statement still stands, no matter what kind of fancy spin you want to put in it.

Originally Posted by Dispari I don't know why Dink thinks she's not as sexy as Jay was. In 5 posts she's already upstaged his entire career.

disagree

Impartial third party here.
Aggelakis is right, and it's not an opinion situation.


Giving away something that must otherwise be bought, clearly has a financial effect when people no longer need to buy it.

Your next move should should probably be 'free samples' logic to balance.

No. You don't want to go that way.

She will counter with uneven pricing where a small number of points can mean both that, a person no longer has to buy a block of points to get one costume piece, and that a person no longer has to buy a block of points when they are only a few points away from what they want. In these cases, your small quantity of points goes UP in financial effect.

You want to go with implications of free samples.

Can we get a red name to close this thread please?
it is becoming borderline insulting one, abusing other, mistreating this and harassing that.

Ah good, not one of the people who don't get that the commercials shows slightly UNDERcooked pizzas..

The rest of this thread has now been rendered irrelevant, for someone has used the phrase "harshing my mellow" in a legitimate conversation.

I applaud you, sir. (or ma'am?)

Emphasis mine. Even I know this.

Originally Posted by Zwillinger GG, I would tell you that "I am killing you with my mind", but I couldn't find an emoticon to properly express my sentiment.

Originally Posted by Captain_Photon NOTE: The Incarnate System is basically farming for IOs on a larger scale, and with more obtrusive lore.

Baldy! Baldy!

It had to be done!

Originally Posted by Zwillinger GG, I would tell you that "I am killing you with my mind", but I couldn't find an emoticon to properly express my sentiment.

Originally Posted by Captain_Photon NOTE: The Incarnate System is basically farming for IOs on a larger scale, and with more obtrusive lore.

It's both, of course interest is important, but that doesn't mean loyalty isn't too.
You're absolutely right that loyalty is a lot harder to measure than the cost of inspiring it, which is why so many companies fail to all the things they can to inspire it.

But being difficult to measure doesn't mean that it doesn't have a large effect.

No it isn't. It's the same amount of direct cash, yes, but you yourself just listed a whole load of problems that exist in actually giving the money back, and none of those problems exist in giving the player-base an extra day instead.
Yeah, it has a few of its own problems, but those are much lesser than the problems involved in actually giving money back.

You can call it monetary compensation if you want, but the vast majority of people use that phrase to distinguish between when a company gives out part of their product as compensation, and when a company gives out actual cash.

You could give them a free day of VIP status, for example, by picking a day at a weekend and turning VIP on for everyone, or you could simply not compensate them at all.

As you say yourself, there's no obligation to compensate everyone, or even anyone.

Why are you so desperate to insist that I'm going "I want compensation, I want it! Wah wah wah!!!"? I'm not.

Would I like compensation for unexpected downtime? Of course I would, I'd guess you wouldn't mind it either, but I don't care that much.

I'm not making this argument for myself, I making it to point out how it could very well be good business sense for NCSoft.

The only people who've brought up monetary compensation are your crowd.
The argument is not for NCSoft to do anything that would have transaction costs, the argument is that they do something that they have full control over themselves.

That certainly would happen to an extent, but it wouldn't happen as much as you might think.
I suspect most people would view those points as "extra" and use them to buy something they wouldn't have otherwise.
Hell, those free points might even inspire someone to buy more points, so they can afford something they wouldn't have bought otherwise.

I'm fairly sure there are items that cost both 440 points and 480 points, some one might not be willing to pay $10 to get those items, but they might be willing to spend $5 if they already have the 80 points and just need the 400.

Yeah, giving free points would likely cost money for NCSoft, but it wouldn't be anywhere near the total the points were "worth".

The game would have to be down for 72-144 hours nonstop before it would equal 40-80 points.

What?

Hey what a great idea! The devs should give all the RMT accounts VIP access which will then become Premium access so they can piss off our player base with spam on channels and emails they went to great lengths to keep them out of.

And on top of that they can lose out on all the money they could have earned from Free accounts upgrading to Premium.

Uhm /unsigned

If they aren't willing to go to Amazon and get VIP access and all the perks that go with it including 400 points by purchasing a copy of one of the various CoH Editions for as low as $1.33, they aren't going to spend any money on extra points.

Most commercials show slightly undercooked pizza - looks better on TV.

I work at a pizza parlor, we've actually had people complain about two things - one the pepperoni doesn't look like it does on TV, meaning it hasn't cripsed yet. Two - that the spacing on the pepperoni looks wrong because (at my work, anyway) the commercials show uncut pizzas, and the cutting moves them around.