put full forum access in Paragon Marketplace


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I'm still iffy about going VIP again, but I'd happily shell out a couple of bucks to escape the ALL ACCESS forum ghetto- it's really cramping my style.

=P


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and on further consideration, it doesn't make sense from a community standpoint to restrict forum access so drastically. When you're dealing with online socializing the more the merrier.

I can see not wanting to deal with a flood of FTP newbies making accounts just to troll the boards, but I don't get the point of restricting longtime subscribers with an established track record. I see Bill Z Bubba is in the same boat as myself, and he's consistently been one of the more helpful, useful posters around here for a good long time.

I understand wanting to create incentives for VIP subscriptions, but this restriction seems to miss the forest for the trees.


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Thirded

I wouldn't mind paying a couple bucks to unlock access to the rest of the forums. It'd be nice to able to ask for build advise on the AT boards or post on the server boards Or, maybe have it as an unlockable based on your Paragon Rewards (like Tier 2 or 3)


 

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Or, maybe have it as an unlockable based on your Paragon Rewards (like Tier 2 or 3)
that's a better idea- I've already 'invested' almost 20k posts in this joint, let me add to my total unfettered! I'd even spend a token on it, or however that works...


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that's a better idea- I've already 'invested' almost 20k posts in this joint, let me add to my total unfettered! I'd even spend a token on it, or however that works...
I like your forum access being restricted. It means it'll be easier for me to pass you up


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I like your forum access being restricted. It means it'll be easier for me to pass you up
You're already in the Car... er.... that thing we don't talk about. What more do you want?


 

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I like having it be a Paragon Reward. I'd rather not have it just be available for purchase. There's enough trolling on here as it is, that is to say more than none.


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You're already in the Car... er.... that thing we don't talk about. What more do you want?
I want all you plebs to stare up at me in awe, acknowledging my ultimate power. ALL SHALL BOW BEFORE MY HORRIFYING MIGHT!


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I want all you plebs to stare up at me in awe, acknowledging my ultimate power. ALL SHALL BOW BEFORE MY HORRIFYING MIGHT!

I see the problem. With that picture, people are going to look up in "awwwwwww."


 

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I like having it be a Paragon Reward.
yah, that's a better idea.


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When they initially stated their plans for Freedom, non-VIP accounts would have read only access to all open sections of the forums. Several of the forum members asked that it not be so restrictive and asked that they at least open up sections such as Gameplay/Technical Issue & Bugs and Player Questions so that they could get help from other players.

Paragon Studios and NCSoft saw how that would be beneficial so they worked out a system to allow limited posting access to non-VIP accounts. They tested it in Gameplay/Technical Issues Bugs then rolled it out to the current ALL ACCESS sections.

Part of the problem is that the forum software recognizes only two types of accounts. VIP and non-VIP. Just as on the Account pages it either shows the account as being VIP or Free. Since the forum login is tied to the game account login, there isn't really a way to make more types of accounts without having to rewrite much of the Account parts of the website. Then the web team would possibly have to change how the login scripts tie to the account servers to allow multiple levels of access.

Quite a bit of work for little benefit.

We don't want the web team monkeying with trying to hack something into the system to track vet status, they do enough damage as it is with their custom script to tie the forum login to the game account login.

It's highly doubtful given the web teams limitations as well as the limitations of vBulletin to have multiple levels of access such as what you are asking for, whether it be a purchase or a Paragon Reward.

In a way, they do sell full forum access. It's called being a VIP.


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I have no issue with the current forum restrictions for premium players.

Just to point out - if you didn't pay before Freedom you had absolutely no access and now some of the main forum sections are available to premiums.


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In a way, they do sell full forum access. It's called being a VIP.
To paraphrase your own comment, quite a bit of expense for little benefit.

I mean, it's not a major issue for me- there are plenty of other places to discuss the game. It's just that I'd prefer to do it here.

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Just to point out - if you didn't pay before Freedom you had absolutely no access and now some of the main forum sections are available to premiums.
while half a loaf is better than none, it would benefit the community to open it up even further.


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I want all you plebs to stare up at me in awe, acknowledging my ultimate power. ALL SHALL BOW BEFORE MY HORRIFYING MIGHT!

Wouldn't a fox kit have been more appropriate?

Something like this, perhaps...


Goodbye may seem forever
Farewell is like the end
But in my heart's the memory
And there you'll always be
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/signed!

When this all first started I had suggested it be tied to Reward Tokens. Someone such as you or I Goat, that have been here for ages are not so likely to troll or spam or cause a ruckus. Set it as a high level tier like 7 or 8. Cut down on the problems. In fact tier the whole danged thing. 3 gets you x y z forums. 5 gets you even more. Then 8 unlocks all but BETA boards.


 

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aannnnnnd, as a now current VIP, I still support this idea. Especially when my sub runs out in a month from now.


 

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as I get more informed about the whole 'tier' system the stranger it seems that improved forum access isn't a slot on one of the higher tiers.

players with years of paid subscription time aren't guaranteed to be tremendous community assets, but they tend to be more involved, informed & active on the forums. Which is what community hosts should be looking for...


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I see the problem. With that picture, people are going to look up in "awwwwwww."
I dunno, Bill. That's one EVIL looking kitty.

But put me down for unfettered forum access being a Reward, not a Market item.


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as I get more informed about the whole 'tier' system the stranger it seems that improved forum access isn't a slot on one of the higher tiers.

players with years of paid subscription time aren't guaranteed to be tremendous community assets, but they tend to be more involved, informed & active on the forums. Which is what community hosts should be looking for...
I wonder whether or not they can even tie forum access to the tier rewards. It may be that they can only tie it to subscription.


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I wonder whether or not they can even tie forum access to the tier rewards. It may be that they can only tie it to subscription.
dunno if they could automate it, but this forum software isn't so antiquated as to not have a huge number of possible permissions.

I admin another forum for a commercial site, running a modified version of UBB that in tech terms is positively ancient. We have Root, Admin, Mod, VIP, User & Probation usergroups with their own levels of forum access.

Of course if they can't automate it, or if automating it takes a lot of work I'm hosed. This is a game, after all, with a plethora of 7 year old in-game typos...

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Since some Prems have unlocked access to the inf cap and Went/BM I can see how access to the market forum would be useful.

/signed


 

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Since some Prems have unlocked access to the inf cap and Went/BM I can see how access to the market forum would be useful.

/signed
I can log in anywhere and pull up a remote Wentworth's console.
I can log in anywhere and pull up a window to check what's I've got in the Vault.
I can use all these cool path auras at the tailor.
I can give myself a colored title.
If defeated, I can pop right back up glowing with a handful of effects from big inspirations.

etc etc etc.

But I can't post in the market forum, or the Triumph server forum, or the Blaster forum?

Makes no sense.


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