So is staff melee out tomorrow?


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I'm not saying it'd make you more interested in the cosmetic stuff, rather that if there were a major drought of "big" releases the cosmetic stuff would be all the more annoying to those who find it annoying in the first place. If Paragon's desire is to keep as many players as happy as possible, it would be unwise to release beast mastery and staff fighting essentially back to back and then have nothing huge for the next couple of months.
Issue 18 kept me busy with all those powers up until I21. I would 100% agree with you if they weren't releasing pets almost back to back.

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Also Staff has been on test for 4 months now and atleast 2 months of that it's been pretty much ready with the exception of the sounds.
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Erm....no you can't, the Beta server is shutdown until Issue 23 gets released on there.

So you can't just go on test to play it.

Also Staff has been on test for 4 months now and atleast 2 months of that it's been pretty much ready with the exception of the sounds.

I personally play with music blaring away anyway, so I don't care about sounds, just relase the bleeding set already.

Or failing that, have a schedule of relases up so we know whether to give a toss each Tuesday or not. This 'wait and see' approach is ******* irritating.


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Erm....no you can't, the Beta server is shutdown until Issue 23 gets released on there.

So you can't just go on test to play it.

Also Staff has been on test for 4 months now and atleast 2 months of that it's been pretty much ready with the exception of the sounds.
Well to be fair, we have no idea if the sounds are done or not. That sounds more like a "I dont like the sounds of the set" Than is it really done.

I am not upset by Staff Fighting not being here yet, just disappointed, myself. As for their being a recent new powerset, that is correct, sadly was it not only for an AT I find the most boring to play, it's of a concept I never really cared for.


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I'd like to know what people actually do with the pets besides pose and take pictures with them.
I'm trying to figure out a way to make my character as transparent as possible so I can pretend he's transforming into the pet. No, he doesn't do it to travel around or anything like that. It's a debilitating curse that forces him to change, and he's not very effective when he does.

Funnily enough, the character is medium sized so, with Beast Run having him hunched over, he can practically stoop forward into the pet.

Meh, it'll work until they release a white tiger transformation power...eventually.


 

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I personally play with music blaring away anyway, so I don't care about sounds, just relase the bleeding set already.

Or failing that, have a schedule of relases up so we know whether to give a toss each Tuesday or not. This 'wait and see' approach is ******* irritating.
I do the same when it comes to sounds since CoH doesn't (usually) have mission music and I got tired of the First Ward/SSA battle theme after the third or fourth time of hearing it.

It's a brilliant marketing scheme that we don't know what's coming up, because VIPs won't cancel their sub so they can stay around and see what's coming. It's cold and dirty, though.

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Meh, it'll work until they release a white tiger transformation power...eventually.
I'd be definitely okay with some more vicious looking beast travel powers. Coyote's pretty adorable and actually really fast, but I feel silly when a big badass dude turns into a pipsqueak puppy thing.



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I do the same when it comes to sounds since CoH doesn't (usually) have mission music and I got tired of the First Ward/SSA battle theme after the third or fourth time of hearing it.

It's a brilliant marketing scheme that we don't know what's coming up, because VIPs won't cancel their sub so they can stay around and see what's coming. It's cold and dirty, though.

Hasn't worked on me, mine runs out next month, Super packs and the irritating way Paragon have been treating us made me unsub for the first time since CoV EU launch.


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Or failing that, have a schedule of relases up so we know whether to give a toss each Tuesday or not. This 'wait and see' approach is ******* irritating.
The reason why we'll probably never give us a "schedule of releases" is that it would tie their hands into a series of expectations that may or may not realistically happen. It's the same reason why they've never announced long-term dates for Issue releases - everyone knows if they ever missed one of those release dates everyone would scream bloody murder about it.

Truth be told they are probably constantly working on various things to toss out on the Market and probably never know exactly what's going to be offered week-to-week until just a few days before each Tuesday. I'm not suggesting that's a good way to do business - just offering that that's what looks like is happening here. *shrugs*


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Hasn't worked on me, mine runs out next month, Super packs and the irritating way Paragon have been treating us made me unsub for the first time since CoV EU launch.
Really? Haven't had too many problems with super packs. If anything it's I always seem to get a bunch of Rares and VRs within 2 packs on beta and will go through about five or six on live and just get reward merits and revives :P.
However you mentioned you're a EU player? What's happening with super packs on the EU servers?

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The reason why we'll probably never get a "schedule of releases" is that it would tie there hands into a series of expectations that may or may not realistically happen. It's the same reason why they've never announced long-term dates for Issue releases - everyone knows if they ever missed one of those release dates everyone would scream bloody murder about it.
They had a calender last month. I guess it was a one time treat. Needless to say, as much as I've been throwing a childish temper tantrum, it's not the end of the world. It's just really frustrating to hear "No staff tomorrow but oh man you guys are going to LOVE this!...It's the most infamous type of item in the game!"
If we simply got a "No staff tomorrow " I'd be more "Well okay " than turning into the hulk.



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Hasn't worked on me, mine runs out next month, Super packs and the irritating way Paragon have been treating us made me unsub for the first time since CoV EU launch.
How exactly have they been treating us? Have we ever in the history of the game gotten more stuff faster than right now? If you ask me, and you didn't, this is the best period the game has ever been in!



 

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it hasn't been but a week or so since the last Powerset was released. Expect Staff Fighting to drop on the 17th or 24th of this month.
It has been more than a week so that is not accurate at all.

What is wrong with Z saying staff fighting is going to be released on xyz date this month. I mean really the set has been ready for at least two of the four months it has been in BETA. It was more highly desired and requested over BM and they told us when that was coming, so why not staff.

Like it or not they appear to be playing around and treating this set differently than others mainly by refusing to provide any concrete information and people are pissed about it.

No need to overreact but there IS a reason too react. YMMV.


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As long as people are not threatening to burn down PS office or something, others need to step back and allow people to provide feedback that PS can take or leave.

It is not cool to try to muffle your fellow players feedback, not cool at all. Step away if you are happy and allow the voices of those that are not be heard instead.

Please stop that.


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The only thing more ridiculous than the constant "I want Staff NAO!" whining would be the whining about how Paragon hasnt released a new powerset in upwards of 6 months after they released them all within weeks of each other and have nothing close to ready in the pipeline.


 

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I'm trying to figure out a way to make my character as transparent as possible so I can pretend he's transforming into the pet. No, he doesn't do it to travel around or anything like that. It's a debilitating curse that forces him to change, and he's not very effective when he does.

Funnily enough, the character is medium sized so, with Beast Run having him hunched over, he can practically stoop forward into the pet.

Meh, it'll work until they release a white tiger transformation power...eventually.
Sounds like the guy on the classic (well, to me it was) TV show "Manimal"

Like others have said, I don't begrudge them for releasing vanity pets. I just don't have a concept in mind that would fit them.

*sigh* Oh, well. Patience is a virtue.


 

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Definitely agree with Darth. In fact, remember when beast on beta was first a leak of something we weren't suppossed to get until way after staff? Staff was far more complete than beast. What happened?

And yes, I have been overreacting. I do apologize.



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I'm fine with vanity pets but it sure would be nice to have more diverse offerings. Also why the hell does the liger have a scorpion tail? Is it supposed to be a chimera? I'm not going to purchase a dwarf lion or a badly-modeled mythical creature.


 

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1. Never said I was going anywhere or playing anything else.

2. No. I can't. Beta is down until I23 release.
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Beta is closed.

Plus marketing types only understand why you aren't buying something, when you explain it over and over and over again.

Maybe if we're lucky this time it'll slip through and they'll realise it winds people up to wait a week only to find out its a useless bit of tat in the market again.

We really need a calander of releases.
Wasn't specifically pointing at anyone but the general mentality expressed on the board.

First I had thought it was people exaggerating, you know, to be funny and show how antsy they were for Staff Fighting. But now I'm getting the vibe people are actually mad...which is funny.

I can't even tell you how many Tuesdays something was put on the market that I didn't buy. Of the top of my head, I only purchased Titan Weapons + Weapon pack on a release week. All the weeks of other dog pets, magic carpets, pugilists sets and recently with Beast masterminds, I can just shrug and play what I had been playing or catch up on something I put aside.

I guess I'm special...and not the good kind.

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I'm fine with vanity pets but it sure would be nice to have more diverse offerings. Also why the hell does the liger have a scorpion tail? Is it supposed to be a chimera? I'm not going to purchase a dwarf lion or a badly-modeled mythical creature.
Seemed like a last minute hideous decision they thought up and thought it'd be funny. Also makes the lion seem like a steal with another pet included.

But remember, no more than 1 pet out at a time.

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I guess I'm special...and not the good kind.

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Nah you're just reasonable. I've been doing the same as you for some time but I'm nearing 50 on my fire melee/shield (Which'll be my sixth or seventh 50 in a year. I need to see some sunlight) and running thin on stuff to play. I don't want to get real into a toon if staff MIGHT be released soon, see? If it were confirmed it were say at the end of April I may be able to.



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How exactly have they been treating us? Have we ever in the history of the game gotten more stuff faster than right now? If you ask me, and you didn't, this is the best period the game has ever been in!

How have they been treating us badly? Well firstly you've got the 'new thing in the shop each week, but we ain't going to tell you what it is' approach, it really ***** me off when there are things that are ready for the shop, but instead its something idiotic like todays pet.

Compounded to that, the must have something new each week, means that we get stuff released into the shop that is bugged, reported as bugged and fixed on beta, but released anyway because they've got to have something new out.

Eventually it'll get fixed when a new patch comes out, but they can't wait until the patch is ready to sell the bloody thing in the first place, because they've got to have some new 'suprise' for us each Tuesday.


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How exactly have they been treating us? Have we ever in the history of the game gotten more stuff faster than right now? If you ask me, and you didn't, this is the best period the game has ever been in!
I continue to be amazed at how people can seemingly complain more now that we are getting -more- stuff than we ever did before.
The counter-intuition behind this state of affairs is almost mind-boggling.


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I continue to be amazed at how people can seemingly complain more now that we are getting -more- stuff than we ever did before.
The counter-intuition behind this state of affairs is almost mind-boggling.
Quality over quantity.



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Quality over quantity.
And as always these concepts are relatively subjective. *shrugs*


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In fact, remember when beast on beta was first a leak of something we weren't suppossed to get until way after staff? Staff was far more complete than beast. What happened?
Yeah, this is a pretty good question.

I really wish pets were not implemented as toggles, and I really, really wish that you could have multiple out at once. Why can my german shepherd not frolic and cavort with my MVAS? Besides that one would pee on the other, I mean.


 

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There are a few people in this thread this morning that are purposefully baiting for an argument. Don't give them the satisfaction, ignore them(just don't respond) and go ahead and leave your feedback for Paragon. Support each other and don't fall into their trap of debate it is not worth it.


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As long as people are not threatening to burn down PS office or something, others need to step back and allow people to provide feedback that PS can take or leave.

It is not cool to try to muffle your fellow players feedback, not cool at all. Step away if you are happy and allow the voices of those that are not be heard.

Please stop that.
I don't care one whit whether anyone wants to express dissatisfaction about the latest thing to hit the store. Go nuts. I do care when people completely fly off the handle and start accusing the devs of malice, or subterfuge, or whatever else. Bonus points if they do it in a particularly disrespectful way. Why? Because the devs are people, they obviously do not have remotely sinister intentions, and it's just childish and unseemly. That may not be true of this thread as much as some of the other ones but you'll forgive me for generalizing slightly.


 

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As long as people are not threatening to burn down PS office or something, others need to step back and allow people to provide feedback that PS can take or leave.

It is not cool to try to muffle your fellow players feedback, not cool at all. Step away if you are happy and allow the voices of those that are not be heard.
Agreed.

For me? I really want staff fighting so each week it is not released I am disappointed. I am not angry, just disappointed.

That they cannot market items coming up ahead of time with a caveat of "barring unforseen circumstances" is baffling. People will complain no matter what but to me it seems better to announce "Coming to the Market next week: X*" *barring unforseen circumstances

Each week they release something I don't want only keeps me from spending my points until they do give me what I want.

I am completely baffled by the vanity pets. I took vet one about 3 times before the current system when I lazily click the Claim All and just choose one never to use it. But apparently enough people must like them to validate the efforts to create and sell them.


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