Are we getting Staff and beast tomorrow?
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Agent White,
Posted on: 2012-03-12 24:58 in Archetypes and Powers General Discussion
REALLY REALLY irritated that staff is not out for double XP. It seems to have been ready for weeks.
Even though it's the set I've been waiting for for years, I think I'm going to ignore it as a protest, given that everything about this release reeks of the sort of cynical manipulation of the microtransaction model that many people were worried about. Delay to space out releases, more paid for powersets, very few weapon options with I'm sure a load of paid for ones coming etc.
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Originally Posted by Clockwork O1
Not tomorrow.
Soon. Not imminent though. |
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Wow, I'm glad the leprechaun pet is coming out in time for double xp weekend!
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Apparently making bad sound effects takes no time at all, but we don't know about good ones.
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Originally Posted by Darth_Khasei
Not being silly man...Aside from the sounds there is nothing else to work on. They took almost no time at all to make the second set of sounds for it and showed that part is NOT as time consuming as you are trying to make it seem.
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Whatever dude there has been no red letter conformation that they are in fact changing staff sounds again.
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Originally Posted by GlassGoblin
Apparently making bad sound effects takes no time at all, but we don't know about good ones.
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Makes sense to me, I would definitely consider delaying Staff and Beast intentionally to miss double xp to keep subscriptions going. It will just take longer for the players to reach goals and requires more play time.
...doesn't that make business sense to you guys?
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Are you aware that just becuase of BM and staff not coming for double XP people may (and I know alot of will) cancel their subscription and refuse to buy anything from paragon market? If anything else this is a bad marketing move. A good move would be delaying double XP until at least BM released.
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Originally Posted by JayboH
Makes sense to me, I would definitely consider delaying Staff and Beast intentionally to miss double xp to keep subscriptions going. It will just take longer for the players to reach goals and requires more play time.
...doesn't that make business sense to you guys? |
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Yup. It's the same logic behind redesigning an entire zone and adding a bunch of new arcs for soloists/small teams but then locking progression behind draconian and idiotic time gates.|
Originally Posted by JayboH
Makes sense to me, I would definitely consider delaying Staff and Beast intentionally to miss double xp to keep subscriptions going. It will just take longer for the players to reach goals and requires more play time.
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Guess they want us to dump VIP, play for free and ignore everything they add to the market.
Oh wait... that's already done. Damn, these devs are awesome at manipulating me!
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I bet they have the numbers to prove otherwise, as far as history is concerned.|
Originally Posted by Kangstor
Are you aware that just becuase of BM and staff not coming for double XP people may (and I know alot of will) cancel their subscription and refuse to buy anything from paragon market? If anything else this is a bad marketing move. A good move would be delaying double XP until at least BM released.
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....though I agree with you that delaying double xp to fit would make sense. Too late now though.
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Originally Posted by Clockwork O1
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SO...Why are you bothering with a double xp weekend? Seriously, I've no momentum going into this weekend anymore.
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From what I remember it was always new shiny power set just before double XP weekend. This is first time a set will be released just after DBXP as far as I know ( i had a few year breaking from game so if this happened before I don't know) but this is also first time donig it with hybrid model.
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Originally Posted by JayboH
I bet they have the numbers to prove otherwise, as far as history is concerned.
....though I agree with you that delaying double xp to fit would make sense. Too late now though. |
How long ago did the 3 new powersets with Issue 22's launch date come out, you know, Dark Control, Dark Assault, and Dark Affinity? Those are pretty new.
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Because there are thousands of players, dozens of power sets, and lots and lots of characters still in the game that can take advantage of it?
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Originally Posted by Derangedpolygot
SO...Why are you bothering with a double xp weekend? Seriously, I've no momentum going into this weekend anymore.
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Originally Posted by Agent White
Based on the last dev diary, tomorrow is going to be the leprechaun pet in time for St. Patrick's day.
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They nerfed the pets so only one could be out at once and they want us to buy more? That's like buying lots of cars and only being able to drive them one at a time,.... oh wait,.... nevermind.
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Originally Posted by Agent White
Because there are thousands of players, dozens of power sets, and lots and lots of characters still in the game that can take advantage of it?
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Yeah you guys keep saying this, but yet it hasn't come out yet.
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Originally Posted by Clockwork O1
Not tomorrow.
Soon. Not imminent though. |
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With as underperforming as Beast Mastery has proven to be, the ONE reason I may have purchased it was because Double XP weekend would make it's horrible and unbearable low-level play massively avoidable.
Well, I can definitely keep 800 points for a set that currently does not have any time to have it's performance flaws fixed, because Masterminds are a minority!
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Going to have to take issue to that, since two of the best performing MM primaries came out after i6.
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Originally Posted by Reppu
Masterminds: We haven't learned anything since Issue 6!
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For all I care, they can wait til July to release Staff Fighting, if it takes em that long to fix the godawful sounds. Not touching that set with a 10 foot pole (lulz!) as is.
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And? No, really. And? If you think Beast Mastery is on the same level as Thugs and Demons, okay.
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Originally Posted by Everfree_Fire
Going to have to take issue to that, since two of the best performing MM primaries came out after i6.
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And you specifically said nothing good had been done for MMs since issue 6. What's with all the bluster lately?
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Originally Posted by Reppu
And? No, really. And? If you think Beast Mastery is on the same level as Thugs and Demons, okay.
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I said "haven't learned anything", not "have sucked since", because the latter is a lie. Beast Mastery is performing many sins of the original Mastermind sets. That's all it meant.|
Originally Posted by PleaseRecycle
And you specifically said nothing good had been done for MMs since issue 6. What's with all the bluster lately?
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If they had learned anything since Issue 6, Beast Mastery would perform better. So, I guess we can say Thugs and Demon Summoning were flukes, or their design choices were ignored in favor of combining Derp plus Herp to equal Flurp.
Regardless, off-topic. Enjoy your bad power set.
I personally don't give a rat's behind about the noise of Staff. It's better than DEMON MASTERY'S sounds.
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Ya know what's funny? They could fix BOTH! AND make titan weapons not also sound like beating someone to death with a wiffle bat!
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Originally Posted by ShadowMoka
I personally don't give a rat's behind about the noise of Staff. It's better than DEMON MASTERY'S sounds.
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Be well, people of CoH.
I was honestly more excited for Beast Mastery than Staff... finally an MM I might get into.
But not as it stands on beta now.