Oh Shard Cannon, how you taunt me!


Arcanaville

 

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Why isn't the Elemental Order Shard Cannon a usable rifle model for the Arachnos Rifle? The Celestial Rifle and the Steampunk Rifle are. My Huntsman is seriously bummed


 

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Join me with your ire!


 

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My question is: why'd I get the Shard Cannon if I don't have Beam Rifle, don't want Beam Rifle, and don't plan on purchasing Beam Rifle?


The way I see it, I was jipped out of a card, and the Super Packs go against what the Devs originally stated Freedom would be about. Since Freedom, the only costume bundle I bought is the Club pack (Oh jeez those pants! Oh Jeez that hair!! I'M IN LOVE.), instead buying piecemeal the parts I wanted when I wanted them, mostly spur of the moment when an inspiration drives me into checking out a costume idea.


I don't use dual/team inspirations, I was sitting on somewhere north of 15k reward merits on my characters (cause I rarely ever even worry about IO'ing out a character, SO's and generics are fine by me), and Unslotters are like laughing about me behind my back. I bought the 12-pack because I am not holding my breath on the Devs giving the Elemental Order set as its own bundle (and only got one of the two pieces I really wanted out of it...).


Anyway, I've derailed enough. Devs, at least give the Shard Cannon to Pulse Rifle, Almighty-Sentient-Puddle knows they need some loving. If it's decided that other rifle sets can use it too, hey, it's more choice (which is what Freedom was supposed to be about *wink-wink, angry face*).


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Originally Posted by Justice_Reaper View Post
My question is: why'd I get the Shard Cannon if I don't have Beam Rifle, don't want Beam Rifle, and don't plan on purchasing Beam Rifle?
Because you should have purchased Beam Rifle, silly.


 

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My question is: why'd I get the Shard Cannon if I don't have Beam Rifle, don't want Beam Rifle, and don't plan on purchasing Beam Rifle?
On beta, the Super Packs actually did contain an advanced AI that could read the minds of players to work out what power sets they were and weren't planning to buy, and then adjust the cards to suit them - but it was dropped after it was found to contain a bug that could lead it to take over the player's computer, and from there every other computer connected to the interent, declare war on humanity, and proclaim the age of the machines.


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I'm honestly not sure why it wasn't ported over. Could be animation, could be any number of reasons.

I'll go ask someone.


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Originally Posted by Zwillinger View Post
I'm honestly not sure why it wasn't ported over. Could be animation, could be any number of reasons.

I'll go ask someone.
Can we get the same treatment for the M16, the Merc Rifles and the badge-unlocked models?

I'd really love to use a REGULAR GUN with my VEAT when he's in his civvies.


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Z,

URGR8!

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Originally Posted by Zwillinger View Post
I'm honestly not sure why it wasn't ported over. Could be animation, could be any number of reasons.

I'll go ask someone.
Cool, Zwillinger

While you're at it, could you check on Robot Masterminds too? They're lazer weapons, but haven't had a single new model ported to them since they came out. I'd really like the option of some of those newer models for mine. (the D.U.S.T. Cannon and Shard Cannons in particular).

Is there a reason they haven't been, or just missed by accident?


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I couldn't agree more.

 

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Originally Posted by zwillinger View Post
i'm honestly not sure why it wasn't ported over. Could be animation, could be any number of reasons.

I'll go ask someone.
yes!


 

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Originally Posted by Granite Agent View Post
Why isn't the Elemental Order Shard Cannon a usable rifle model for the Arachnos Rifle? The Celestial Rifle and the Steampunk Rifle are. My Huntsman is seriously bummed
It's not available for MM Laser Rifles either

(In fact, none of the Beam Rifles are)


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The Shard Cannon should totally be proliferated to use with Assault Rifle (including Masterminds), and VEATs. It's pretty darn awesome looking.
No reason it shouldn't be. /Robotics, /Mercennaries, AR/, and /AR for everyone.


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While we're at it... why are the Carnival of War/Light/Vengeance maces limited only to War Mace and not applicable to Mace Mastery? The Celestial mace works with Mace Mastery even though it looks odd shooting webbing and beams from a hammer. The Carnie maces would actually make more sense being usable there.


 

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At least soldiers get variety. Think of the poor Widows who only have that single pair of old claws.


 

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The Shard Cannon should totally be proliferated to use with Assault Rifle (including Masterminds), and VEATs. It's pretty darn awesome looking.
Agreed, Kheld, thanks for bringing it up, too.

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Originally Posted by Zwillinger View Post
I'm honestly not sure why it wasn't ported over. Could be animation, could be any number of reasons.

I'll go ask someone.
Thanks Zwill.

The Shard Cannon's dead sexy, but I have enough beamers. My Soldier, on the other hand... yeah, they really need to let the Soldiers have more rifles...*

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*...and the Widows more claws - I love the rularuu ones to death. But Widow's are probably another matter entirely, in terms of tech, people benefitted, and time to do the port, I'm guessing. <sigh>


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Originally Posted by Iannis View Post
At least soldiers get variety. Think of the poor Widows who only have that single pair of old claws.
I know. Every time I work on my widow's costume, there's that weapons tab just taunting me....



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I know. Every time I work on my widow's costume, there's that weapons tab just taunting me....
Yaknow, I'm personally of the opinion that (especially) the stuff we specifically buy should have a port over to every type of weapon it had every right to be in. If we bought the Vanguard Pack, for example, Widows should have the option for those claws.

Though I also feel If they want to spend their Vanguard Merits they should be able to get it as well. And If they go through the effort of running the villain story arc that gives the Rularuu claws, or goes to the Shard and gets the badge for Overseers, they should be able to access those too. They did the work, they should get the reward.

Then again, I'm also kind of an outlier in that I think a lot of the AR and Beam weapons could cross sets. I'm all for more options for everyone.

Even Khelds. Their auras are colored by their experiences and how they use their energies. Why couldn't have one been affected by radiation from the reactor and had their energy turn green...

>.>


<.<

What?


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I couldn't agree more.

 

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Originally Posted by Derangedpolygot View Post
It's not available for MM Laser Rifles either

(In fact, none of the Beam Rifles are)
Yeah, this keeps bugging me to heck!


 

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Tell me about it. My 'main' is a Bot's MM. I'd LOVE the Shard Cannon (and the BFG option of the D.U.S.T. cannon) for him.


"I play characters. I have to have a very strong visual appearance, backstory, name, etc. to get involved with a character, otherwise I simply won't play it very long. I'm not an RPer by any stretch of the imagination, but character concept is very important for me."- Back Alley Brawler
I couldn't agree more.

 

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I can accept the answer that porting over old weapon models might take additional work which there isn't time for (although I don't like it!). However, Steampunk and Celestial rifles both are available to Soldiers so they must be doing something different now. Can we please just have all new weapons proliferate to all the sets that should be able to use them especially now that we're forking over additional money aside from subscription costs?

Also, I won't accept thematic reasons as a valid excuse as that was thrown out of the window when sniper rifles turned into flamethrowers and grenade launchers.


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In general, I really hate how weapons aren't proliferated across all sets that can use them. This is never more true than with Beam Rifle weapons not being available for Mastermind Robotics Pulse Rifle attacks or Assault Rifle. So, even though I don't have any spiders, I'm in full support of proliferating this.


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In talking to various people, I got the impression it was mostly an aesthetics/animation issue.

We can look into porting it over, but no guarantees that it will happen or in what timeframe we can accomplish it in.


Andy Belford
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Paragon Studios

 

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Originally Posted by Zwillinger View Post
In talking to various people, I got the impression it was mostly an aesthetics/animation issue.

We can look into porting it over, but no guarantees that it will happen or in what timeframe we can accomplish it in.
This is pretty much the answer Posi gave me at the Pax panel Q&A 6 months ago. Still holding out for something/anything on my Soldier so it's back to the waiting game. Thanks for the prompt reply, Z.

The thing that just irks me is that to use the new shiny weapon I have to use the new shiny powerset. It felt that with the transition to Freedom and microtransactions, it would open up more goodness for everyone but I haven't really felt that so far... especially as an Epic AT.


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