I don't really like the "so tell me how much you were looking for" type pawn/antiques reality shows. And I'm also not really crazy about the "boss gives them a weird competition to make things seem zany and fun" shows either. I did (sort of) enjoy the segments where they just talked about geek culture stuff, but Smith isn't nearly as good when he's working clean which he seemed to here. They also seemed to edit them laughing at something else to make what they were talking about seem funnier than it actually was. (or at least that's what it appeared to be)
The guys were likable enough though and there were some interesting things. I don't know. Jury's still out for me. Then again I don't read comics or collect so there is that.
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I thought it was funny. I'll watch more of it. I'd like to visit that store sometime.
As to the sketch...well...a one-off sketch done and signed by the person who created some of the biggest names in comic-dom? Ten grand? Ya, I could kinda see it. But in the end, the value is only what someone will pay for it.
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So, did anyone else watch this? What did you think?
In my opinion it was only "OK." It was humorous at times, but for the most part it seemed like Pawn Stars New Jersey: Comic Book Division. I'll give the next episode or two a chance, but I don't see it lasting. The one big problem I had with it was the values they were putting on things - $10,000 for a Bob Kane sketch of Batman and Robin? Seriously, ten grand? I could see a thousand, maybe fifteen hundred, but $10-thousand for a pair of head sketches? No way. |
Also the value was probably part of the show anyway and in reality may be different.
I just checked eBay and there are currently seven pieces of Bob Kane Batman related original art listed for sale. The most expensive is an actual published daily comic strip with a buy it now price of $17,500. Even that seems high to me, but I do know that published work goes for significantly more than sketches, so I'm not too surprised.
As for the other six items, none of them, including two watercolor paintings, have a buy it now price of more then $4500. There are two beautiful sketches of the Joker and the Penguin that are much cleaner than the sketch on the show last night, and they are listed for $2,000 each.
So yes, while it is true that value is in the eye of the beholder, or the wallet of the buyer as it were, throwing out exaggerated prices for stuff on a show like this gives people false hope and angers or disappoints them when they take their things to an actual comic book store and they are offered 10% or 20% of "book value" by the owner.
The most realistic part of the show to me was when they called in the expert and he shot down the guy with the Dawn of the Dead items. That's the way it goes in 9.8 out of 10 cases in my experience.
I don't know, maybe it's because I do know how actual comic book stores and such work that I don't find the show all that compelling.
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1/2 Pawn Stars, 1/2 video pod cast. Actually preferred the pod cast portion of the show over the "what can I get for this?" portion of the show. The contest was outrageously stupid.
On the other hand History has Full Metal Jousting on at the same time, 10p EDT. Watch macho men get smacked off of horses.
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1/2 Pawn Stars, 1/2 video pod cast. Actually preferred the pod cast portion of the show over the "what can I get for this?" portion of the show. The contest was outrageously stupid.
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But I'll keep watching both shows. I love having a DVR.
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When I see the ads for this show, I can't help but think SmashTV and or RunningMan isn't far off.
Still unsure if thats a good thing or bad thing.
*On tonights RunningMan, we have the cast of Jersey Shore, will any of them survive?*
Okay, that would be a good thing.
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CBM wasn't bad, but yeah, the pawn stars parts in the shop were pretty boring and they were way off in the prices they were quoting. Some lowballed (obviously intentionally), others, overshot A LOT. Dug the back and forth, but frankly, if i had to put up with that dude with the beard any longer than a few minutes, i'd probably rip his beard off, kick him off a cliff, and wear his beard as a trophy.
I won't be watching again. I don't like any reality show, so it started with 2 strikes against it. The 3rd strike is that it was simply terrible. The show isn't even worth me typing more about it.
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The guy with the beard comes off as a jerk, but other than that, the show was passably rough around the edges. I'll give them a few more episodes to iron out a format.
Tales of Judgment. Also here, instead of that other place.
good luck D.B.B.
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I would pay good money to watch that....
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Indeed. It's the funniest HORROR movie I've seen.
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Just to point out Kevin Smith, an interview on AOTS said a few of the things were like "that's awfully convenient" when he was watching it...
He also explains that while they did get people to come in on certain days to get footage... as in the put out more or less a casting call for people who want to sell stuff to come in on certain days or some such... that's about the only "fakeness" of that section.
As far as low ball, high ball stuff well the point of a shop is to buy low sell high and since they were buying...the prices were off.
Also it seems the Kevin Smith is more in love with the podcast part of it as he kept hitting that and also pointed out that a big influence was the Nerdist TV show and Talking Dead where he's wanting to put forth more of a nerd version of ESPN and whatever.
As far as the bearded dude... he doesn't work there. He just hangs out there from what was said in the show and he's a friend of Kevin and the boss... Also he seems more to be a bully/jerk only to ming who to me to try to get him to loosen up... This apparent when the "bully hero" comes in and yells at him when the guy had no business coming anywhere near him for breaking Ming's plate. He's definitely an abrasive person, but it's all in good fun and in the case they showed it for a good reason.
It's amazing that people can see different things in actions... A good number of people likely thing the idiot that tried to play hero was a good guy and that ming was just being picked on for no reason, but to me it seems more like Ming was too uptight and the hero was a jerk...but meh
"But the reality of the comic book stores is that these are the people who work in them. There’s not a woman among them," says Kevin Smith, who would have us believe that funnybook stores have little diversity among the employees and the clientele. Why would he have cut even a token female from his show's lineup unless he wanted to pander to stereotypes?
I actually know a girl who works at a comic book store. >.>
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"But the reality of the comic book stores is that these are the people who work in them. Theres not a woman among them," says Kevin Smith, who would have us believe that funnybook stores have little diversity among the employees and the clientele. Why would he have cut even a token female from his show's lineup unless he wanted to pander to stereotypes?
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That is a quote mine that is from someone that is Framing the line wrong which you are carrying over... So you got the reality of the article, but not the reality of what was said.
Smith had an idea which is to have a reality show with the people that patron his comic shop which is a dynamic that has formed over 20 years or so... AMC told them to get a female in there for some gender equality, but then later realized that that wasn't "right" and then went another direction. The "God Bless" line Smith saying that "It is a good thing that they realized that a new person threw off the dynamic of who they were and thus wasn't the reality of the shop" ie "not reality" is referring to his shop, not shops in general.
I would also point out that the phrasing seems forced and altered to make it not read properly...
"But the reality of the comic book stores is that these are the people who work in them. Theres not a woman among them."
Smith doesn't speak quite like that. If he were going to say what the author says he is saying he would have phrased it...
"But the reality of comic book stores is that these are the people who work in them. Theres not a woman among them,"
and to me it seems more likely that he actually said
"But the reality of the comic book store is that these are the people who work in them. Theres not a woman among them,"
OR he said what was in the article, but meant a certain group of stores and not all stores.
At least that is what it looks like and reads to me.
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"But the reality of the comic book stores is that these are the people who work in them. Theres not a woman among them," says Kevin Smith, who would have us believe that funnybook stores have little diversity among the employees and the clientele. Why would he have cut even a token female from his show's lineup unless he wanted to pander to stereotypes?
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At the comic book store I visited, the store had four employees, and three of them are female. They all knew their stuff.
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Conversely, it could be argued that that cute of woman working there is somewhat unrealistic and pandering as a token female or as counter candy.
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Smith seems to be deliberately setting up a retrograde image with his "reality" TV show for mainstream consumption. (And Durakken, if he was misquoted, then he's probably already begun an epic Twitter campaign against the Observer.)
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Argued from what position? I haven't patronized a comic book store in decades that didn't have female employees - including, yes, cute ones. A shop that hired only males would have, well, issues in more than one sense.
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That's also neglecting that these guys seem to have known each other for a considerable time frame. They're comfortable with each other and you get a more realistic interaction as opposed to dropping someone new into the mix.
Edit - Now, if she had been working there for a reasonable length of time, like 3-5 years, then it would make sense to put her in the show, since she's part of their "group". But bringing in a woman just for the sake of bringing in a woman?
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That's also neglecting that these guys seem to have known each other for a considerable time frame. They're comfortable with each other and you get a more realistic interaction as opposed to dropping someone new into the mix.
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There's no question that this show is set up on so many levels that the audience is supposed to be laughing at these guys under the pretense of laughing with them.
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So comfortable that three minutes into the show we're presented with their discussion about which superheroine they'd like to have sex with. Yes, having a woman in that conversation might make them feel less comfortable.
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And that conversation? Virtually no different than any that have occurred in these forums in the past. Though it is one thing to do it on a relatively anonymous forum compared to doing it in person.
So, did anyone else watch this? What did you think?
In my opinion it was only "OK." It was humorous at times, but for the most part it seemed like Pawn Stars New Jersey: Comic Book Division. I'll give the next episode or two a chance, but I don't see it lasting.
The one big problem I had with it was the values they were putting on things - $10,000 for a Bob Kane sketch of Batman and Robin? Seriously, ten grand? I could see a thousand, maybe fifteen hundred, but $10-thousand for a pair of head sketches? No way.
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