Han shot. Period. Mmmkay?


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I personally hate the people who keep saying stuff like "it doesn't matter" in reference to stories and such, because as pointed out in other threads...yeah so? but also it devalues so many people, from the writer to the viewer, that it makes you sound like an *** in my opinion.

And yet you'll see those same people posting about the WWD? death of Statesman going on and on "you didn't establish the Phalanx as blahblahblah" and "blahblah was so rushed it had no build up" and all that jazz.

And here I'm sitting, playing the game going "Uhh, yeah. So? It's a game >_>"


 

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So in the new Star Wars game, does the smuggler actually get a "Don't Shoot First" ability that makes the opponents' first attack a guaranteed miss and all subsequent attacks a high chance to miss so long as the smuggler doesn't try shooting first?

Not even a sith should be able to touch one of them!
No, but the Smuggler does get a "Kick in the Crotch" melee attack that stuns the opponent. Funny as hell when it's used on a droid. Who knew droids had family jewels.


 

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No, but the Smuggler does get a "Kick in the Crotch" melee attack that stuns the opponent. Funny as hell when it's used on a droid. Who knew droids had family jewels.
So what you're saying is Lucas should edit IV so that Han doesn't shoot at all, he just kicks Greedo in the crotch?


 

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So what you're saying is Lucas should edit IV so that Han doesn't shoot at all, he just kicks Greedo in the crotch?

Hmmmm. I've never been a big fan of re-editing the films but I think I could get behind this idea.


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No, but the Smuggler does get a "Kick in the Crotch" melee attack that stuns the opponent. Funny as hell when it's used on a droid. Who knew droids had family jewels.
Even more hilarious when you time it right and use it as your death blow. I just picture some Imperial officer having to explain to a soldier's next of kin that he was the recipient of a fatal kick in the balls.


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So in the new Star Wars game, does the smuggler actually get a "Don't Shoot First" ability that makes the opponents' first attack a guaranteed miss and all subsequent attacks a high chance to miss so long as the smuggler doesn't try shooting first?

Not even a sith should be able to touch one of them!
Bizzarely (and this is probably well known) a certain spec of the Smuggler (Scoundrel which Han is considered one of since he sure ain't a Gunslinger) does get an ability called 'Shoot First'.


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Even more hilarious when you time it right and use it as your death blow. I just picture some Imperial officer having to explain to a soldier's next of kin that he was the recipient of a fatal kick in the balls.
Imperials don't bother writing next of kin. They just send a bill for the cost of training that the Empire spent to train the soldier that the family is now required to pay off or go to prison.


 

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Imperials don't bother writing next of kin. They just send a bill for the cost of training that the Empire spent to train the soldier that the family is now required to pay off or go to prison.
Along with the bill for the blaster charges that the soldier used that didn't kill the enemy. There's also the bill for the billing.

Gotta pay for them Death Stars somehow...



 

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I just want to say that I personally changed my lifestyle, and whole life after seeing Han shoot first. I mean it touched me in a warm, gushy spot that exploded in an array of incredible emotions surging through my entire body. Seeing that laser blast tear through the green man with googly eyes made me close my eyes, bite my lip, and raise my hands to the heavens above with a shout of relief as I had been saved. It was at that very moment on that DVD player that I found my true religion. Jedism - the Rogue Sanct. I have never looked back sense, and never had any plan too... that was... until Lucas changed it.

After seeing that reverse image I at first was torn, I felt over heated, my body felt like my clothing was constricting me, squeezing the truth out with soft coils that soon become prodding spikes puncturing my soul, and faith's foundation. It was at that moment my eyes had opened, and my breath exhaled slowly as I could see for the first time in my life that the world was changing, but not the kind of change I was expecting. My entire world was flipped upside down, face first, throwing my fists into pounding raging fits while dragging my nails along every surface I flung myself into during the controversial moment.

I just, I can't.. I mean, guys, Star Wars brought me to Jedism and now, ..and now I just.. can't go on, can't hold it in anymore, tears flowing every day. I am taunted by the whole ordeal, and I can't help but question everything, wondering, did Han really shoot first? Or did the green man? Should I convert to alienism? To sith? Or remain on the side of the Jedi and if so what becomes of the rogue sanct? Could I of been deceived? Is pumpkin really apple? Is cake not really a lie? So many things flush to my head causing me to become so dizzy.

I'm just so exhausted, I can't sleep but I can't move. My body always tense, it's just so much to take in all at once. Did Han really shoot first? And the bigger question over all else is, should I really care?


 

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Bizzarely (and this is probably well known) a certain spec of the Smuggler (Scoundrel which Han is considered one of since he sure ain't a Gunslinger) does get an ability called 'Shoot First'.
Hmm, is that a defensive ability that lets you dodge first shots?

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Along with the bill for the blaster charges that the soldier used that didn't kill the enemy. There's also the bill for the billing.

Gotta pay for them Death Stars somehow...
Debt Star is more like it.

Even all the bounties you could collect (and ignoring all the damages of course) by destroying a planet's worth of wanted criminals wouldn't even put a dent in its cost. Good thing it was destroyed before they got desperate and started robbing banks with it...


 

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It was at that very moment on that DVD player that I found my true religion. Jedism - the Rogue Sanct.



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I.....seriously. What.

Does it really, REALLY matter who shot first in a tiny section of a completely fictional story that's however many years old?

Yes, I love the original trilogy. It's probably a big part of why I love sci fi as much as I do. But....this boggles even MY cerebral circuits here. I can get really intense about the smallest of things (anyone listening to Union RP channel when we discuss game stuff should know that...)

So.....yeah....we know this is Lucas. What else is new?

Edit: Just watched the link. And yeah, he shot first. Even if Lucas changes it, so what? Han's still a badass.

The scene is considered a defining point in Han's character by most fans. They believe it marks him as essentially pragmatic, calm and decisive. Where as the idea of him waiting to be fired on first they feel is simply stupid since at that range it doesn't make sense for anyone to miss.

Even as someone who isn't a heavy fan of the series, I can recognize the significance of it for people that like the show.


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No, but the Smuggler does get a "Kick in the Crotch" melee attack that stuns the opponent. Funny as hell when it's used on a droid. Who knew droids had family jewels.
The first time i pictured someone using this in combat, i thought of a galaxy full of one legged smugglers who thought they could get the jump on them damn Force users.


 

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The first time i pictured someone using this in combat, i thought of a galaxy full of one legged smugglers who thought they could get the jump on them damn Force users.
Interesting and little known fact: Sith armor does not include an athletic cup, and there is no known form of lightsaber combat that focuses on the protection of one's gentiles.


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I think I'll just drop this here and walk away.


I will admit that made me laugh....out loud even!

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Enter epic heatfelt speech here
..Marry me..

*cough* While I can understand a certain backlash of changing (if only in presentation) what is still a classic, I think the change is understandable once explained by George.


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Pfft...just be glad there isn't a group arguing Han shot 3rd...after Greedo and the off-screen Boba Fett who ran away after he saw that Han killed Greedo.


 

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Gunner 477 of the Devastator was the first to fire. He missed.


Edit: that's right, go look up what I'm talking about :P


 

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Think about it this way, two guys named, uh... Aaron and Alex are having a duel. They step off their twenty paces, turn, and Aaron fires before Alex, killing Alex before he can shoot his gun.
I see what you did there


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Damn right han shot period. I could take a blaster to GL trying to imply han is some softy moron who needs luck to live through something any sane smuggler on a lawless worldnt need to blink twice about.

Han is the ultimate bad ***. Dude took shots at Darth Frelling Vader and lived to tell about it. Name 3 other guys who shot at vader and lived.


 

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On a side note, doesnt anyone else feel Matt and Trey tried to warn us this was inevitable? I have a feeling they must of partied with GL some night and had the terrifying truth hit them like a titanic weapon to the face.


 

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*cough* While I can understand a certain backlash of changing (if only in presentation) what is still a classic, I think the change is understandable once explained by George.
I don't think I can actually recall precisely what Lucas' "explanation" for this Han Solo edit ever was. But that's OK - had Leonardo da Vinci ever decided to go back and put a mustache on the Mona Lisa I probably wouldn't have bothered to listen to his revisionist "explanation" for doing that either. *shrugs*


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Interesting and little known fact: Sith armor does not include an athletic cup, and there is no known form of lightsaber combat that focuses on the protection of one's gentiles.
You heard it here, folks. Lightsaber combat is ONLY for the protection of Jews.


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though it should be pointed out... Han being faster than light is pretty badass
I wouldn't rule out the latter.

Empire Strikes Back, Han, Chewie and Leia are going with Londo to what Han thinks is just a dinner.

Leia is suspicious of Londo
Chewie is suspicious of Londo
Londo is actively laying a trap (not quite willingly, but still)
Han thinks Londo is his good buddy who's got no reason to harm them

Han is the LEAST aware of what is going on.

Door opens and friggin DARTH VADER is sitting there.

Leia and Chewie gawk at Vader, Vader stands up probably to say something threatening, Londo gawks at Han because Han has already drawn his pistol and fired three times.

Vader gawks and reflexively disperses the energy before finally telekinetically grabbing the gun


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I wouldn't rule out the latter.

Empire Strikes Back, Han, Chewie and Leia are going with Londo to what Han thinks is just a dinner.

Leia is suspicious of Londo
Chewie is suspicious of Londo
Londo is actively laying a trap (not quite willingly, but still)
Han thinks Londo is his good buddy who's got no reason to harm them

Han is the LEAST aware of what is going on.

Door opens and friggin DARTH VADER is sitting there.

Leia and Chewie gawk at Vader, Vader stands up probably to say something threatening, Londo gawks at Han because Han has already drawn his pistol and fired three times.

Vader gawks and reflexively disperses the energy before finally telekinetically grabbing the gun
So he's faster than thought, which is probably faster than light, right?