Han shot. Period. Mmmkay?
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Aura_Familia,
Posted on: 2012-02-10 19:52 in Comic and Hero-Villain Culture
According to the terrible famicom version of the game, neither shot first. Luke crashed the land speeder into the bar and killed Gredo.
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More likely he signed a contract that contained the option to do multiple films if required and was obligated to continue the role as long as was needed. That's how studios keep actors/actresses from bailing on them if they change their minds about sequels. Established actors/actresses can afford to renegotiate, but Ford was virtually a newcomer at the time.
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Originally Posted by Nericus
I suspect the paycheck is what kept Ford involved and Han alive.
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What I've always heard is that Ford lobbied Lucas to have Han killed in Return of the Jedi and Lucas refused. Not sure if that's true, or if it is why Lucas refused, other than the fact that he thought it would tarnish the "happily ever after" ending.
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Originally Posted by Nericus
Malcolm Reynolds is basically a darker version of Han Solo <snip>
Can't remember all the legends about the Star Wars films but wasn't it planned at first that Han would be frozen forever or killed by Jabba or something? I suspect the paycheck is what kept Ford involved and Han alive. |
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Well Lucas needed something to distract people from the whole Luke tongue kissing his sister on Hoth. Mal don't cotton to that sort of thing. The man has morals.|
Originally Posted by Texarkana
What I've always heard is that Ford lobbied Lucas to have Han killed in Return of the Jedi and Lucas refused. Not sure if that's true, or if it is why Lucas refused, other than the fact that he thought it would tarnish the "happily ever after" ending. |
Zoe: Cap'n didn't make 'em fugitives.
Kaylee: But he coulda made 'em family! 'Steada keepin' Simon from seein' I was there. When I carried such a torch, and we coulda...goin' on a year now I ain't had nothin' twixt my nethers weren't run on batteries!
Mal [not a little shocked]: Oh, God! I can't know that!
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True there was the happily ever after ending, which is also why Lando and Falcon escaped the Death Star by a fraction of a second before it exploded. So Han lives, he has Leia and his ship. Happy ending for him indeed. |
Originally Posted by Texarkana
What I've always heard is that Ford lobbied Lucas to have Han killed in Return of the Jedi and Lucas refused. Not sure if that's true, or if it is why Lucas refused, other than the fact that he thought it would tarnish the "happily ever after" ending. |
Also I think Han was kept alive because Lucas was going to reveal the relation of Luke and Leia and there had to be a legit romantic interest somewhere
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True, but then Mal was almost suckered into going to the "Special h---" as Shepard Book put it |
Originally Posted by Nericus
Well Lucas needed something to distract people from the whole Luke tongue kissing his sister on Hoth. Mal don't cotton to that sort of thing. The man has morals. Zoe: Cap'n didn't make 'em fugitives. Kaylee: But he coulda made 'em family! 'Steada keepin' Simon from seein' I was there. When I carried such a torch, and we coulda...goin' on a year now I ain't had nothin' twixt my nethers weren't run on batteries! Mal [not a little shocked]: Oh, God! I can't know that! |
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IF Star Wars ep 4 to 6 ever gets remade from the ground up instead of just being "revised" by Lucas, Nathan Fillion MUST play Han Solo. |
Originally Posted by Blood Red Arachnid
I am surprised that Firefly was brought up, but in retrospect it makes sense. So, to honor the conflict, I present to you the following:
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OR.......if Lucas ever decides to do 7 to 9, he could kick it up a few generations and Nathan Fillion could be a DESCENDANT of Han Solo.
Fillion might make a decent Jacen Solo or possibly a Cade Skywalker...
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I always thought Shia LaBeouf would make a great Han Solo.|
Originally Posted by Nericus
IF Star Wars ep 4 to 6 ever gets remade from the ground up instead of just being "revised" by Lucas, Nathan Fillion MUST play Han Solo.
OR.......if Lucas ever decides to do 7 to 9, he could kick it up a few generations and Nathan Fillion could be a DESCENDANT of Han Solo. |
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Yeah but she was naked and... articulate.
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Originally Posted by Nericus
True, but then Mal was almost suckered into going to the "Special h---" as Shepard Book put it
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I hereby invoke the WWNSOT provision of the "man code". WE WILL NOT SPEAK OF THIS.
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Originally Posted by Slaunyeh
I always thought Shia LaBeouf would make a great Han Solo.
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Originally Posted by Slaunyeh
I always thought Shia LaBeouf would make a great Han Solo.
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Originally Posted by Slaunyeh
I always thought Shia LaBeouf would make a great Han Solo.
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Hey just remember that Mal figured out he wasn't the only one that got suckered into kissing Saffron.|
Originally Posted by Lord_Nightblade
Yeah but she was naked and... articulate.
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Mal: You're a very graceful woman, Inara.
Inara: [surprised] I... thank you
Mal: So here's where I'm fuzzy. You got by that girl, came and found me, and somehow you happen to just trip and fall.
Inara: What do you mean?
Mal: Come on, Inara. How's about we don't play. You didn't just trip, did you?
(pause)
Inara: No. [You will remember that Inara kissed Mal while he was unconscious and that was why she passed out]
Mal: Well, isn't that something. (Mal smiles)
Mal: I knew you let her kiss you.
(Mal leaves, whistling, while Inara just stares speechless)
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Malcolm Reynolds is basically a darker version of Han Solo <snip>
Malcolm Reynolds is basically a darker version of the original Han Solo from Star Wars IV A New Hope-- the character who shot Greedo dead out of self-preservation, because he always looked out for #1, but then experienced a modicum of character growth by coming back to save Luke and the Alliance.
Not the Han that became more popular than most other characters in the Star Wars Universe and, consequently (because he wasn't killed off....like Mercutio), became comic relief in Return of the Jedi before getting further marginalized by editing possibly his most character-defining moment -- the confrontation with Greedo. People call him a grumpy curmudgeon now, but Harrison Ford was right: Han should have been killed off somewhere in the middle to eliminate him as a distraction from the main characters as well as maintain the dignity of his character. Malcolm Reynods is Han Solo written properly and brought to the forefront.
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