Cutscenes


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Yeah, cutscenes. My suggestion?

Get rid of 'em.

Yes, I know they advance a story, etc, etc, etc. But:
- You can't skip them. Supposedly if you've played it before (trial/tf) it will skip if everyone has. But the game's not aware of alts, so when my new Mr. Blastalot hits one... I can't just skip it.

- They look bad. Just flat out - no matter how many shinies they put in, they just look *poor.* Why? Because we have fixed-expression bobbleheads having balloons appear as they bob and stiffly emote. Newer games have characters look like they're actually *talking* and emoting properly.

- They get people cutting in with text, thinking it's humorous.

In their place, I say adopt the comic-book medium and give us "comic pages." Yes, more work for the art team (though apparently the cutscenes are *also* a lot of work) but it matches the genre, it would allow appropriate expression (instead of "creepy fixed bobblehead") and, yes, help offset that this is an eight (plus) year old game to people coming in.


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I agree.
Loved the comic screens of the SSA loading screens and from tutorial.
Much more interesting that cutscenes.
They cant replace all cutscenes in all important arcs and TF but they should do it from now on in all the new TF coming and for all the existing iTrials.


 

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Originally Posted by Stormbird View Post
Yeah, cutscenes. My suggestion?

Get rid of 'em.
I agree.

If they can't make cutscenes skippable - properly skippable, by hitting escape or something, not just "if everyone on the league has run this before on the character they are currently playing" - there should be no cutscenes, or at the least they should be very rare, for big dramatic moments in the plot*. There really are very few things more frustrating than taking away control of my character, and even basic chat functions, for minutes at a time to show a bit of story that I have already seen multiple times.

*Romulus' Nictus transformation in the ITF is short, dramatic, and important, thus I don't mind it as much, although it's still annoying to watch it EVERY time. Recluse's big reveal in the STF is also passable. Marauder having a refreshing drink in Lambda, or some robots giving a solid two minutes of exposition in BAF, or etc, do NOT qualify.


 

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I like cutscenes.
/shrug

Although, I would like the option to skip the long ones when I have seen them 20 times.


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Although, I would like the option to skip the long ones when I have seen them 20 times.
Pretty much this.


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Even the longest barely interrupts the button mashing.

Kids these days... so impatient.


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I like cutscenes.
/shrug

Although, I would like the option to skip the long ones when I have seen them 20 times.
Yep, nothing wrong with the cutscenes until it is the 967th time...


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Originally Posted by Arnabas View Post
I like cutscenes.
/shrug

Although, I would like the option to skip the long ones when I have seen them 20 times.
I agree. I REALLY don't need to see the WWD part 1 cutscene again.


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More cut scenes!!! In fact I want a cut scene after every battle. A scene that replays the fight from multiple angles in slow motion.


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I don't think cutscenes should be completely scrapped, they just need to be skippable. I'd suggest potentially giving the team leader the option to skip it for the whole team/league if individual skips won't work, but I can see alot of people not liking that.


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More cut scenes!!! In fact I want a cut scene after every battle. A scene that replays the fight from multiple angles in slow motion.
You are truly evil.


 

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You can't skip cutscenes for the same reason you can't pause the game: not everyone will do so at the same time.

Anyway, I like them for what they are, but they get a little old after a while. I'd like to see more of them, but much shorter ones. Sitting through Mother Mayhem and Siege and Nightstar AGAIN wouldn't be such a pain if it didn't make you spend such a long time watching instead of playing. But a cutscene is a great way to make sure everyone actually SEES the lead-up to an important event, as opposed to the way so many tip missions do it, giving you a wall of text to read and then having an enemy attack you before you finish.

So, I suggest lots of short cutscenes instead of a few long ones, and if they want to disable battle cries during those cutscenes so people can't get cute with it, that'd be fine by me.


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Skippable cutscenes would be nice. And if you're in a group have the team/league take a vote on skipping it.

I admit, I've been playing The Old Republic and going from that sort of quality to CoH's cutscenes is a bit of a drag.



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Yeah, have a button at the bottom and if everyone on the team clicks it, skip it! Also, have an option when starting a task force, trial, story arc, whatever, to automatically skip cut scenes. Or have a setting in Menu>Options to skip cutscenes, and if everyone's set to skip, skip them automatically; otherwise, supply a skip button.


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You can't skip cutscenes for the same reason you can't pause the game: not everyone will do so at the same time.
There are cutscenes in single player missions, as well....


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I like the cut scenes.


 

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Originally Posted by Stormbird View Post

- They get people cutting in with text, thinking it's humorous.
Oh, come on, sometimes it *is* humorous.


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Oh, come on, sometimes it *is* humorous.
Sometimes. But not so much when it becomes a challenge to see how fast they can mash their button and in the process devour your chatlog.


 

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MOAR CUTSCENES...with the condition that they have MOAR QUALITY!!

*Brevity is the soul of wit...Don't drag these out!

*A picture's worth a thousand words, but so is like, ten spoken words...I'd like to hear more voiceover stuff. I felt so alone after rolling the tutorial, with its walkie-talkie... and then walking into the mime planet of Atlas.

*Polish the old spoons! Just give some of the old costume parts a touch-up, and maybe revamp the NPC's costumes.


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/unsigned on comic book pages unless they can actually manage to get decent art, which they completely failed to do for the tutorial.


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Originally Posted by Stormbird View Post
There are cutscenes in single player missions, as well....
There are cutscenes in missions that can be single-player. Or eight-player.


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I understand the game's supposed to be a time sink.
But essentially hijacking our computer for minutes at a time for cutscenes is one of the absolute crappiest ways to siphon time out of someone...



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Originally Posted by DarkGob View Post
/unsigned on comic book pages unless they can actually manage to get decent art, which they completely failed to do for the tutorial.
I agree. I love the cut scenes and some of the things people add lib made me laugh so hard I snorted out my tea. I know, lady like right? Some of them make me want to dub them on youtube for lulz but meh. Otherwise, I like them. Besides epic cleavage from mother mayhem is just extraordinarily incredible.


 

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Originally Posted by Doctor Roswell View Post
There are cutscenes in missions that can be single-player. Or eight-player.
I'm quite sure I remember cutscenes even in the Praetorian single-player-only missions. Couldn't skip 'em there, either.

Besides, like Aggelakis said, it could be made to skip only if everyone agrees to do so, which would nullify this objection.


 

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I've been playing in a newly launched MMO and I am now sick to death of flippin cutscenes. Every single time you go to a contact you spend 10 minutes playing thru the damn cutscenes. Worse they linked it to their morality choices, and the written text doesn't match the voice acting so you have to constantly start over every time you find out your initial choice means something entirely different.


So I find myself agreeing with wanting to toggle cutscenes off.


 

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Originally Posted by Arnabas View Post
I like cutscenes.
/shrug

Although, I would like the option to skip the long ones when I have seen them 20 times.
For the most part I agree, but I think they could stand an improvement in overall quality as well. . .

Isn't NCSoft Korean owned? That is the land of animation these days, perhaps they could do some actual cartoon cell animation if it were not too technically challenging to develop?