Question: Golden/Silver Age Costumes

There were a few female crimefighters that went out and battled the forces of evil in evening wear.

Full length dresses and, perhaps, the accessories that go with them.

-Stoles
-Full length fur coats (they can actually be faux fur, as long as they look good)
-Full length evening gloves
-long cigarette holders (extra points if it actually gives off smoke)
-hats with veils over the eyes
-pince nez glasses (for those that don't know about these, they are glasses that do not have earpieces. they stay in place just by grqabbing the nose)

For both sides of the gender aisle...

-Loose trench coats. The ones we have now are a bit too tight in the upper body. I'm thinking of the classic Bogart look.
-More hat options (I think this has been said before but...)
-Walking sticks (bonus points if you can use it as an alternative power animation)


There might be more but these are the first things to come to mind.

Along with everyone else I'd like to see tights with better texturing. Obviously keep the existing and just add something new.

Something I didn't see posted, and if it was and I missed then just add my name to that list as well, more generic tights patterns. The ones we have are good, great even, but more is always better. We seem to have a lot of design focused patterns and those are awesome for a character that fits that design. But, I'd really like to see some more generic patterns made available.

As far as voting goes: I'd vote option A. But, I'm OK with the compromise of finding a sweet spot between A and B. I think C should also be done just because masks are such an important part of that era of comics. So...I guess in the interest of pleasing everyone you now have to do all three!

A major issue for me is the painted on tights/masks. The worst offender of which are full masks that cover the ears yet you're left with those ugly ears sticking out.

Simple spandex texturing would be nice. Masks with lens options would also be nice. But for Buddha's sake get rid of/flatten the ears when they're covered by spandex.

Option B is quite well covered already by thing like the IDF and Olympian Guard costumes.

Masks:

• Eye mask details that update what we have in our current library under full masks. This category has not been added to or updated since initial launch nearly 8 years ago now. And all of these should have been made available for "with hair" options years ago.
• Masks with white eyes as has been suggested above repeatedly.
• Adaptable details like a tie for the back of the head (tied on mask is very Golden Age versus a blend pull over mask)
• White. Something needs to be done about the white on masks for faces. It blends with skin as if it were a very thin white watercolor wash rather than opaque fabric.
• Keep the "painted on" look available for face masks but if possible update many of the mask textures we have to add a simple bump map or shadow of a seam around the edges
• Signature details and gimmicks (see category below for ideas) for foreheads and full masks--can be symbols or dimensional objects.
• Take a good look again at the super science goggles, especially in a full mask setting. This is a good starting point. Could use a few goggles like this that color well to blend with full mask colors and carry even more eye shapes: Cat eyes, sneering eyes, dot eyes, etc.

• Not painted on is good but as several posters above point out, just like the new tights you've included in i22, the cinematic textures--i.e. the scale or hightech weave fabric details all stray from classic comic looks. So just like the face masks getting help from a touch of texture just at the liminal edges where fabric then becomes skin, tights could use this minimal treatment.
• SIMPLE base tights for below patterns that take advantage of new tech introduced since launch:
  • A base tights layer with a modest uniform glow to it using glow tech.
  • A base tights layer with a modest uniform reflectance map to it using that tech.
  • A base tights layer with a uniform reflectance map equal to that of the metallic skin.
• Some more "with skin" options for lower body tights for men.
• A female base skin with more defined musculature.
• A "cotton" base layer. "Smooth" works okay for this now. But the softer texture may benefit people trying to capture this look.

• Some of these need to be uprezzed. Not changed. Just go back to the original art and get crisper lines. Many of the original tights patterns look like lo-res jpgs that got tripled in size and have all sorts of weird dithering artifacts.
• Take a good look at the radioactive chest and upper leg patterns. This is perhaps one of THE most silver agey of all the patterns in game. It fits what I go into below about gimmicks. It has a baked in symbol. It is very graphic. The lines are crisp. The areas of color are large and blocky. Too many of the post i4 or so tights patterns have too many fine areas of detail to qualify as GA or SA.
• Missing some basics like a good checker board pattern. Suits of cards patterns with some baked in symbols but room for a chest emblem. Question mark patterns.
• From prior threads I know big graphic asymmetric patterns are out of the question. But the game could use 'em if it were possible.

• Taking a cue from above in case it is possible: a set of gloves and boots that are colored asymmetrically.
  Edit to be clear: By this I mean left boot is color A while right boot is color B. Or a few very simple mirrored patterns such as the "fat stripe" pattern but inverted on each boot.
• All the GA & SA type boots in game all date back to i0 (except the rubber boots and gloves from super science is adaptable at times). When you can, consider revisiting the boots and gloves with spikes, fins & folded. A geometry revamp (or new ones that fill some adjacent gaps designwise) of those with versions that are not overly textured would be appreciated IMO.

• Most GA and SA characters, SA in particular, are built around a schtick. We need more generalized items that can be turned into dimensional face masks, forehead details, shoulder baubles, chest details, emblems worked into full tights patterns, etc. These items should not try to look realistic but instead should have a gimmicky logo feel about them.
  
• Some of these items we already have in one category or another, but I'm repeating things that could be made more symbolic where I think the in game ones try to convey a realism rather than a logo object. Try to think as each of these on a Venture Brothers hero or villain--pasted as an object to their forehead, turned into a uniquely shaped eye mask, neck brooch, etc.:
  • Dice
  • Dominos
  • Leaves (not like the ones we have but a stylized oak leaf or two around the eyes)
  • Heart
  • Cross
  • X
  • Question Mark
  • Smiley Face
  • Bomb with fuse
  • Fist
  • Atom
  • Spider
  • Beetle
  • Crab
  • Bat
  • Moon
  • Sun
  • Comet
  • Ringed Planet
  • Feathers
  • Horseshoe
  • 8-ball
  • Numbers
  • Infinity sign
  • Swirl
  
  All of the above (and more) could then be blended with the existing (and forthcoming) more "realistic" and less stylized pieces from other sets to create a range of signature looks allowing for a range of various heroes and villains from all eras of superhero comics.

• The suggestion above regarding all existing and future hats to have a no hair option allows any and all hat assets you make to do double duty as a hat and as a signature costume item. That pilgrim hat this past thanksgiving? Missed opportunity. With no hair for his, her and huge, anyone could have thrown that onto a plain-jane tights color combo and instantly they have a visual schtick with which to build a costumed character around.

Men's shorts!



Not only would they work with Golden/Silver age outfits as the amateur or beginner or fashionably impaired hero, but they would also work for the Wrestler or casual wear. We just don't have good short pants options for men. And they need to work over tights and with bare legs, please.

The thing I want more than anything else is the ability to stack more than one pattern on my tights at a time.

The most obvious use for that would be the ability to have some of the stripe patterns AND a chest emblem background (like the circles or squares)

Let us worry about clipping issues. The way I envisioned it working is the base, Pattern Layer 1, and Pattern Layer 2. Layer 2 would go over the top of layer 1, so anything that shares space on the layers would be covered up by layer 2.

It would open up literally thousands more possibilities, and you wouldn't have to design any new patterns.

I would like to see this in addition to anything else the community comes up with. I can't even tell you how many times I've thought "Man, it would look awesome if I could combine this pattern with that pattern."

My two biggest desires in this category:

- Lenses/White eyes options for masks (a la Batman the Animated Series)
- Actual textured masks (versus the painted on effect we have now)

I would echo the 'face detail masks,' 3d masks that stand out from the face, rather than simply patterns.

"Spandex" textures with slight wrinkles. Not baggy-like, but enough to differentiate from the 'every crack and cranny' bodypaint look.

Collars:



Swoop-pointed boots, and the pretty-darned common cape broaches with rope:


...and of course, the 'golden age' briefs. The ones that aren't painted speedos, but actually shorts on top of the spandex.

I'd also go with A and C. The Olympian and Defense already do a good job of showing a "modern tights" sort of thing, and we REALLY need Robin-style white eye Domino masks.