And here are their replacements...
Batman, Inc.
Earth 2
Worlds' Finest
Dial H
G.I. Combat
The Ravagers
* BATMAN INCORPORATED - Writer: Grant Morrison. Artist: Chris Burnham. The acclaimed ongoing writer of ACTION COMICS, Grant Morrison, presents a fresh take on BATMAN INCORPORATED, in which the Batman brand is franchised globally in preparation for a major international threat.
* EARTH 2 - Writer: James Robinson. Artist: Nicola Scott. The greatest heroes on a parallel Earth, the Justice Society combats threats that will set them on a collision course with other worlds.
* WORLDS' FINEST - Writer: Paul Levitz. Artists: George Perez and Kevin Maguire. Stranded on our world from a parallel reality, Huntress and Power Girl struggle to find their way back to Earth 2. Perez and Maguire will be the artists on alternating story arcs.
* DIAL H - Writer: China Miéville. Artist: Mateus Santoluoco. The first ongoing series from acclaimed novelist China Miéville, this is a bold new take on a cult classic concept about the psychological effects on an everyman who accidentally gains powers to become a hero.
* G.I. COMBAT - Writer: J.T. Krul. Artist: Ariel Olivetti. Featuring the return of a classic DC Comics series, THE WAR THAT TIME FORGOT, along with rotating back-up stories and creative teams - including THE UNKNOWN SOLDIER, with writers Justin Gray and Jimmy Palmiotti and artist Dan Panosian; and THE HAUNTED TANK, with writer John Arcudi and artist Scott Kolins.
* THE RAVAGERS - Writer: Howard Mackie. Artist: Ian Churchill. Spinning off from TEEN TITANS and SUPERBOY, this series finds four superpowered teens on the run and fighting against the organization that wants to turn them into supervillains.
Batman, Inc. will run for a while
Earth 2 will be hated by everyone
Worlds' Finest... seriously? Was the asinine joke of a title necessary for this comic?
Dial H will run for a short time before being canceled
G.I. Combat will run for a short time before being canceled
The Ravagers... this just sounds dumb v.v
I don't think id call Mister Terrific the worst of the bunch, but it's probably close. Not shedding any tears over it being gone though. As for Hawk & Dove being cancelled? After being worked on by the artistic genius Rob Liefeld? But that is unpossible! Gonna miss Blackhawks though, i was starting to dig it. Don't particularly care about the other three titles. Might grab Men of War if it comes out as a trade though.
Another Batman title? FFS. Maybe if they cancelled one of the other 4 Bat books it wouldn't be so annoying. but the Bat Inc. title was weak sauce before the soft boot, and since Grant's still writing, i don't think its gonna get any better.
World's Finest and Earth 2 im looking forward to. One of the biggest crimes of the whatever-boot was the loss of the JSA. At this point ill take what i can get. Not really caring about the other 3. Makes me wonder what's next up on the chopping block.
Dc thought going back to the 90's was a brilliant idea. Liefeld! Heads should roll at Dc but proably won't.
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Originally Posted by Veritech
Another Batman title? FFS. Maybe if they cancelled one of the other 4 Bat books it wouldn't be so annoying. but the Bat Inc. title was weak sauce before the soft boot, and since Grant's still writing, i don't think its gonna get any better. |
Willpower has more passive regen than Regen does. Who thought that was a good idea?
Can we get a fix for Energy Melee instead of more new sets?
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Answers my question about which books are next on the chopping block. Hrm, if we got Liefeld to draw a Batman book, would it get cancelled?
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Dc thought going back to the 90's was a brilliant idea. Liefeld! Heads should roll at Dc but proably won't.
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So it seems it's a good thing I haven't read any more new comics since Dec 15th. At least they aren't ruining Swamp Thing and Animal Man|
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Side note: Wouldn't it be funny if DC did this just to make Liefeld realize he sucked and so they give him several books and then cancel them every few months ^.^
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Originally Posted by Gobbledygook
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Detective Comics
Nightwing
Batwing
Justice League
Justice League International
Batman, Inc.
Batwoman
Batman and Robin
Batman: The Dark Knight
Batman Beyond is coming back
and according to "The Source" these books are also Bat-books
Catwoman
Birds of Prey
Red and the Outlaws
One could also make the argument that Suicide Squad is a Bat-Book due to it really being Harley & Deadshot
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So Batman is the new Wolverine. Wowsers.
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Originally Posted by Durakken
So it seems it's a good thing I haven't read any more new comics since Dec 15th. At least they aren't ruining Swamp Thing and Animal Man
Side note: Wouldn't it be funny if DC did this just to make Liefeld realize he sucked and so they give him several books and then cancel them every few months ^.^ Batman Detective Comics Nightwing Batwing Justice League Justice League International Batman, Inc. Batwoman Batman and Robin Batman: The Dark Knight Batman Beyond is coming back and according to "The Source" these books are also Bat-books Catwoman Birds of Prey Red and the Outlaws One could also make the argument that Suicide Squad is a Bat-Book due to it really being Harley & Deadshot |
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Oh for the love of....WHY DOES THIS MAN CONTINUE TO GET WORK!
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-.- I couldn't even finish the original run.... Although, it's my understanding this is just to wrap up the Leviathan arc. What really needs to come back is Batman Beyond (which you mentioned) and Red Robin needs his own series back.
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Batman, Inc.
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Batman (Snyder is awesome... pick this up)
Detective Comics (garbage gore and shock that doesn't work)
Nightwing (ignoring the past and retreading the same old ground)
Batwing (mash-up of Nightwing and Batman but african. Corporate crap Night Runner would have made a better solo series)
Justice League (Johns doesn't write Batman or Superman right so doesn't really count)
Justice League International (Batman plays straightman to the goofy people)
Batman, Inc. (Stephanie Brown's book I guess? I haven't read it)
Batwoman (Sexist disrespectful trash.)
Batman and Robin (Got the voice right, but everything else sucks)
Batman: The Dark Knight (Great first arc...2nd arc is meh and overshadowed by Batman)
I missed Batgirl in the original list... It's average at best. The biggest problem this title has is likely Gail Simone. She did such an excellent job creating what is the quintessential Babs Gordon that now that that was erased their not allowing her to be that developed character at all Simone is likely having an incredibly hard time writing well as where sh went originally was the best for the character and it's hard to come up with something equal or better.
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Originally Posted by 8_Ball
Oh for the love of....WHY DOES THIS MAN CONTINUE TO GET WORK!
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I imagine that you also read Planetary - IMO the best of his work.
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Most 90s comic books weren't even a good idea in the 90s. The 90s convinced me to take a break from comics altogether. If it wasn't for Warren Ellis taking over Stormwatch and starting his run on Transmetropolitan, I might never have come back at all.
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Go Team Venture!
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Batman: I agree is awesome. Just wish the art was better. Lately it seems like you get good story but bad art, or bad story and good art.|
Originally Posted by Durakken
Batman (Snyder is awesome... pick this up)
Detective Comics (garbage gore and shock that doesn't work) Nightwing (ignoring the past and retreading the same old ground) Batwing (mash-up of Nightwing and Batman but african. Corporate crap Night Runner would have made a better solo series) Justice League (Johns doesn't write Batman or Superman right so doesn't really count) Justice League International (Batman plays straightman to the goofy people) Batman, Inc. (Stephanie Brown's book I guess? I haven't read it) Batwoman (Sexist disrespectful trash.) Batman and Robin (Got the voice right, but everything else sucks) Batman: The Dark Knight (Great first arc...2nd arc is meh and overshadowed by Batman) I missed Batgirl in the original list... It's average at best. The biggest problem this title has is likely Gail Simone. She did such an excellent job creating what is the quintessential Babs Gordon that now that that was erased their not allowing her to be that developed character at all Simone is likely having an incredibly hard time writing well as where sh went originally was the best for the character and it's hard to come up with something equal or better. |
Nightwing: I like it. Never really read the original run, though so not sure how "true" it is to his past.
Detective Comics: Agreed.
Justice League: Is decent. The artists have been rather inconsistent with Batman's new look, but this one is his best IMO.
Justice League Intl: Agreed. I don't see this one lasting much longer.
Batman Inc.: The sooner this ends, the better.
Batman and Robin: I'm hoping Damien either turns to the dark side or becomes the second Robin to die. Can't stand that little troll....
The Dark Knight: I agree, the first arc (pre-DCnU) was awesome, this last one.....not so much.
Batwoman: Read one comic of this and haven't picked up another.
Batgirl: Not reading.
Batwing: Not reading.
I'm also going to throw Teen Titans in there since Tim's back with that group, and I can't stand the writing in that series. Like I said before, I hope that DC gives us a dedicated Red Robin series back. Oh and give him his old costume back.
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I despise the writer of Batwoman and that series if it continues this same course needs to end. Some people might be confused why I called it disrespectful sexist trash, though... Well that's easy. The writer isn't treating women as equals, but rather treating them as inferior by removing all the males from the series or having them appear as little as possible, mixing that with the killing off of Renee Montoya, one of the strongest lesbians in Dc, along with demoting Capt Sawyer, another of them, and making out like Flamebird is an inexperienced weak little girl when she should be on equal ground as Nightwing in terms of experience and such. The whole thing reeks of insecure bad writing from a writer that doesn't know how to portray characters right nor treat the material with respect to the history of the characters.
By the way... I haven't read this month's Batwoman, but last month they pretty much killed Flamebird (with a small chance of survival) and had Sawyer act completely out of character.
As far as Teen Titans. Lobdell is hit or miss I find and the throwing new characters in was obviously a mandate rather than anything creative. Another thing to consider is that some books are only good if you look at them from a given perspective... which is what Lobdell's writing for Red Hood is... I hope that it a completely meta rip on the whole of the DCnU because it reads perfectly as that, but it could very well just be a horrible book too.
As far as Damian... I have read most of what he's in... I like him, but not with that writer and not with Bruce. Damian should be with Nightwing as everyone thought would happen because Damian is a bad fit with Bruce, but a great fit with Nightwing. That type of thing is really telling of DC in general that they don't understand how things work and why some things are better and others are worse.
As far as Nightwing... Don't read it >.> it's a series of arcs that are ok, but then the creative team changes or there is a mandate and everything is dropped or changed. Nightwing in general is one of the worst comics as a whole due to the entire enterprise that is DC, the writers, editors, and corporation. Basically, Dick is intertwined with Batman always and will never get away from his connection with Bruce no matter what happens because all the people at DC keep dragging them back together while all the other Batfamily are allowed to go off with their own things... Tim Drake was less effected by the events in Batman comics than Nightwing was while they both had titles and Nightwing was supposed to be living in another city and not working with Bruce at all.
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Gonna have to strongly disagree with the idea that Batwing is a combination of Nightwing/Batman. I read the series and there's nothing of Dick there. I can see similarities with Bruce but there are differences, as well. Masacre is easily the best new villain to come along in quite some time and the history of the Kingdom is intriguing.
Imo, it's one of the best written and drwan books of the DCnU. It's definately up there with Snyder's Batman. People are dismissing it out of hand without actually giving it a shot. That's why it's so hard to bring diversity to comics. Nobody really gives new chaacters a chance.
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It's not. It's just Bruce mixed with a story arc from Nightwing that takes place in africa. Massacre, though i didn't read this month's issue, is weak and predictable. He's Batwing's brother. The story telling is bad and many scenes are out of place. The idea of the kingdom is just the idea of a JL that formed in africa.|
Originally Posted by 80sBaby
Gonna have to strongly disagree with the idea that Batwing is a combination of Nightwing/Batman. I read the series and there's nothing of Dick there. I can see similarities with Bruce but there are differences, as well. Masacre is easily the best new villain to come along in quite some time and the history of the Kingdom is intriguing.
Imo, it's one of the best written and drwan books of the DCnU. It's definately up there with Snyder's Batman. People are dismissing it out of hand without actually giving it a shot. That's why it's so hard to bring diversity to comics. Nobody really gives new chaacters a chance. |
It's uninspired corporate mandate crap that isn't interesting and for all their "diversification" what they really did is just add a bunch of black and mexican characters into having titles or in titles. If they really wanted to show they had some integrity and really go the diversity route Night Runner would have been the character used, not this Batwing character that is so obviously mandate created.
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Originally Posted by Durakken
It's not. It's just Bruce mixed with a story arc from Nightwing that takes place in africa. Massacre, though i didn't read this month's issue, is weak and predictable. He's Batwing's brother. The story telling is bad and many scenes are out of place. The idea of the kingdom is just the idea of a JL that formed in africa.
It's uninspired corporate mandate crap that isn't interesting and for all their "diversification" what they really did is just add a bunch of black and mexican characters into having titles or in titles. If they really wanted to show they had some integrity and really go the diversity route Night Runner would have been the character used, not this Batwing character that is so obviously mandate created. |
And yes, the Kingdom could be seen as JLAfrica. The problem with that is what, exactly? How many other superteams are out there patterned after the JLA model? They ALL can be seen as "the JL of whatever" or some twist on the existing fomula. You don't only read Justice League and JSA, do you? The interesting part is the storylines involving the characters, not where the ideas originated. I like wondering who was a part of the Kingdom, what they did and why it disbanded.
I like the mystery of who Masacre is. Yeah, his brother's an (too) obvious choice but it's not a sure bet (he didn't seem to recognize him in the police station when he stabbed him and David hasn't said anything about him seeming familiar.) Massacre's smart and vicicous. He's relentless and a good foil for the hero.
As far as "mandates" go, who cares? How else do you think diversity happens? People claim there's not enough different races/gender/preference diversification in comics and when the suits decide to give a new character a shot, it's blasted? It's a no-win situation. Again, how a character came to be is less important to me than how interesting said character is. You nor I have no clue if a Night Runner series would've been good or crap. Just because they didn't go with your choice doesn't mean they made the wrong one.
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The whole Nightwing joins the Police story which is cool and interesting when handled right, but this isn't being handled right as is the whole dissaffected youth that doesn't like their "mentor" thing.|
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Anything can be overly deconstructed to be seen as derivitive of something else, especially Batman (and, by extension, his entire family.) And what plot from Nightwing is being duplicated here, out of curiosity?
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As far as "mandates" go, who cares? How else do you think diversity happens? People claim there's not enough different races/gender/preference diversification in comics and when the suits decide to give a new character a shot, it's blasted? It's a no-win situation. Again, how a character came to be is less important to me than how interesting said character is. You nor I have no clue if a Night Runner series would've been good or crap. Just because they didn't go with your choice doesn't mean they made the wrong one.
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Dc thought going back to the 90's was a brilliant idea. Liefeld! Heads should roll at Dc but proably won't.
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What really puzzles me is anyone, anywhere, ever making him the writer of a book. His dialogue and plotting make his art seem sublime by comparison. i recently read an action scene he wrote and drew and the sequence of events made less than no sense. i spent a couple minutes trying to reconcile the events and terrain as depicted with some sort of coherent physics and geometry and gave up.
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Originally Posted by Arcanaville
Most 90s comic books weren't even a good idea in the 90s. The 90s convinced me to take a break from comics altogether. If it wasn't for Warren Ellis taking over Stormwatch and starting his run on Transmetropolitan, I might never have come back at all.
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Dr. Todt's theme.
i make stuff...
Noooo! Not Hawk and Dove! 
http://www.comicvine.com/news/cancel...new-52/144098/
6 of the "New 52" has been canceled...
Men Of War
Mister Terrific
O.M.A.C.
Hawk And Dove
Blackhawks
Static Shock
Men Of War was good, but more than likely noone read it
Mister Terrific was probably the worst or second worst comics of the 52...They shouldn't have canceled it though they should have replaced the write with the guy who wrote Robotman.
O.M.A.C. LMAO... what utter crap...
Hawk And Dove interesting concept ruined by not wanting to do research and an obvious lack of ability on the part of the writer and artist.
Blackhawks. I liked this one for what it was, but kinda sucks that we lost Zinda Blake and the real Birds of Prey for this and as pointed out. Didn't really fit.
Static Shock had potential, but it felt corporate controlled with wanting this but not that, dissecting the character and crumpling him up and then not really giving it a chance. They should have focused on the cartoon continuity because no one knew the comic one and there was a reason for that...