Am I being ignored?


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I've had several instances where I was... ignored when trials are forming. There have been times where I have broadcast out into public, sent the trial leader a few tells, essentially anything you'd do to someone who is broadcasting "Room for 8 in BAF PST for invite" to the entirety of the RWZ.


So, my question is this: is there a way to tell if you are on someone's ignore list? As in, if I send them a private tell, will there be a message sent back automatically saying I'm ignored? Or am I doomed to forever be shouting at someone who can't hear me?



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I thought the system gives you a message if the recipient can't get it for some reason or another? I could be wrong though.


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It doesn't answer all the OP's questions (I don't think you get anything when sending to someone who is ignoring you, but that's only a guess on my part), but the wiki does answer one or two: http://paragonwiki.com/wiki/Ignore.


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If it has happened multiple times with different team leaders, 3 things I would suggest:

1) Make sure you are not Hidden

2) Make sure you are not flagged Do Not Accept Invites

3) Make sure you are not in the queue

Any of these things might cause the leaders to just skip right over you in favor of people who ARE accepting invites.


 

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And because nobody else is mentioning the obvious, this will also happen to people who make a...name for themselves on their server. Not saying you have, but I've seen people ignored without being /ignored. If you have any friends that get onto the trial teams ahead of you, see if they mention anything to you or can get a word to the leader that you are looking to be invited.


 

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If you send them an email to their global it will tell you if you are being ignored by them.

Some leaders will put you on their ignore list for "anything", so just make a note that they are ignoring you.


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Who are you all talking to?


 

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Originally Posted by Blood Red Arachnid View Post










Huh? Did you type something OP? Anyone else get his message or is it just m--

Hold on, lemme check my iggiefilter.


 

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Originally Posted by Blood Red Arachnid View Post
I've had several instances where I was... ignored when trials are forming. There have been times where I have broadcast out into public, sent the trial leader a few tells, essentially anything you'd do to someone who is broadcasting "Room for 8 in BAF PST for invite" to the entirety of the RWZ.


So, my question is this: is there a way to tell if you are on someone's ignore list? As in, if I send them a private tell, will there be a message sent back automatically saying I'm ignored? Or am I doomed to forever be shouting at someone who can't hear me?
/ignore Blood Red Arachnid

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If you send someone a tell, you will be informed if they are ignoring you. I know for sure it will tell you this with global tells, but I think it will do it for non-global ones as well.


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Is it still the default setting to ignore tells across faction lines? Heroes don't see villain tells and vice versa?


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Is it still the default setting to ignore tells across faction lines? Heroes don't see villain tells and vice versa?
As far as I know, yes.


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Originally Posted by Stone Daemon View Post
And because nobody else is mentioning the obvious, this will also happen to people who make a...name for themselves on their server. Not saying you have, but I've seen people ignored without being /ignored. If you have any friends that get onto the trial teams ahead of you, see if they mention anything to you or can get a word to the leader that you are looking to be invited.
Howdy. This really hits home with me. I often recruit and lead for various iTrials, but particularly MoM and UGT. I don't dsicriminate based on level shifts or powersets. I take a peak at the league overall and let the league know that I think someone should switch if we're missing a key criteria like a taunter, or a buffer.

On my server, there is a player who also forms leagues, and as a player may be competent, but as a leader is clearly not - giving no direction, accepting no feedback from the league, has no clear understanding of team balance - will let a team of 3 remain as is with two full teams of 8 instead of evening things out, will even go so far as to recruit for one trial, but queue up for another. (mistake? who knows)

I have told this player that I don't trust them with my time. When I form a league for a given trial, I ask the rest of the league before inviting this player if any have a problem with him. Many are ignoring that player and that can impact how well the league communicates. Mind you - they do not ignore this person because the person is mean spirited or a poor player - they ignore this person because they are just annoying. It's not just me.

I credit them for actually trying to form leagues, as on my server, more are inclined to join, than to form. But, I do not credit them with knowing what to do should something unexpected happen - like we get overwhelmed with adds, during a Lambda or BAF, for example. They seem to expect the other players on a trial to already know what to do. But, to not be able to look at a league and notice that there are no buffers on it, I don't think it's a good idea to queue for a MoM at that point. That's a leader that is just plain short-sighted.

So, if you are annoying and have a reputation for being....well...stupid, then yes, it's possible and even likely you're being overlooked in favor of people who don't annoy others.

Mind you, someone who would come to the forums and ask the question the OP asks, is likely not being ignored - but overlooked. There are dozens of tells coming in very close intervals when recruiting. It's very easy to miss someone. I'd say it happens more often than not. It happened to me, once. In fact, that's why I now form iTrials, so that I can make sure I'm on the league.


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were you spamming? like saying it back to back 5 or 6 times, i know most ppl ignore spammers, i do sometimes if i get annoyed enough.


 

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I know when I form a trial, most of the time there are so many people standing around and waiting for one to be formed that it becomes difficult at times to make sure you get everyone who sent a tell due to the sheer number of tells that come in. That, and if for some reason you are bugged and unable to accept an invite, I just might not have the time to respond to tell you that I couldn't invite.

I would err to the side of "maybe they didn't see my tell" or "there may have been a problem inviting me" or the like before I go on the defensive.

Outside of that, and I guess more to the original question, you should receive an error message if you send a message to someone that is ignoring you. Just make sure your current chat tab is set to include system error messages.


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Originally Posted by peterpeter View Post
Is it still the default setting to ignore tells across faction lines? Heroes don't see villain tells and vice versa?
At one time, yes, but I don't believe that's the default setting anymore. There's too many people chatting across faction on help channel these days. Too many cases of "Invite me" "I can't, you're an enemy".


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reset your chat log settings.

Or re-do your chat settings.



It happens to everyone all the time in one way or another. At one time or another.


No you are not being ignored.


 

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In fact, that's why I now form iTrials, so that I can make sure I'm on the league.

I have nothing of any significance to add to this thread, but I wanted to mention that this tickled my funny bone, and so I commend you.


 

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I have nothing of any significance to add to this thread, but I wanted to mention that this tickled my funny bone, and so I commend you.
It has been said by other players on my server that I am a comedic genius. Mind you, the people that say this have also been known to crack a joke.


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I keep wanting to respond to this thread by saying "yes, I'm ignoring you," but then it would be obvious that I'm not. >.>

Personally I'd err on the side of "they're too busy dealing with tells and missed mine". Especially when forming multi-team leagues there's a lot to keep track of for the leader.



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Yeah, I've lead many leagues and at times, you get overwhelmed with tells. I've missed some more than once. I try not to, but when you are getting hit with a dozen tells in the course of one or two seconds, with more poring in while your trying ot issue invites tot he first few--yeah, it happens.

My advice is to wait a second and send another tell. If you are sending tells right after they announce a trial, it's not hard for you to get lost in the flood. If you are waiting a few seconds, you may be getting through after it is already full and there are often too many of those coming in at once to try sending tells back explaining that. Either way be patient, keep trying, and you will get an invite eventually.


 

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Originally Posted by peterpeter View Post
Is it still the default setting to ignore tells across faction lines? Heroes don't see villain tells and vice versa?
I don't see that often enough to think that's it's still the default, but there are plenty of toons out there who are still set that way.
HOWEVER, this definitely generates an error message to the person sending the tell, advising that the 'sendee' is not accepting enemy tells.


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As Fennec mentioned, make sure that you're not in the LFG queue when requesting to join a trial. If there's a deluge of tells, leaders can invite by clicking on a player's name before moving onto the next tell and repeating until the league's full, while "Cannot invite [player]" messages get lost in the shuffle. They might not even realize they couldn't invite you to the league because of the LFG queue.


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If you send someone a tell, you will be informed if they are ignoring you. I know for sure it will tell you this with global tells, but I think it will do it for non-global ones as well.
Ah, good to hear. So I am being ignored without being /ignored. Now, as for the details...

*I think it is just one guy or just one global. This isn't an event that happens very often, but it does happen. Each time I've hosted a trial, I have personally never had a problem keeping up with all of the tells. But, if there were a "mistake", I probably would've caught it by the second tell I would be sent by the person.
*I don't spam. I will send a tell, a second, and sometimes a third throughout the entire length of time it takes to form the league, which is usually over the span of 10-15 minutes. I will broadcast once or twice after these tells are ignored. I stop after this, usually because at that point I assume that I am being ignored and am just annoying everyone who is not the league leader.
*I am not hidden. Ever.
*I do not set myself to refuse invites. Ever.
*I check my LFG queue before joining a trial, since experience from having hosted numerous trials has taught me that this is a common reoccurring problem. I also check to make sure I am not lingering in a previous task force.
*These were never on trials that were formed quickly. These were on trials that were formed slowly, to the point where the trial leader would actually broadcast after every time a member joined their league, over the span of a quarter hour.
*The first time this had happened, another person heard my broadcast and mentioned something to the leader, with no luck. Another player, hearing the incident, started forming their own trial and invited me onto it with no problems whatsoever.
*Specific AT's were not requested.

Before I come to the forums and make a thread about the subject where people will inevitably start to assume the worst, I exhausted every other outlet for explanation. This had really perplexed me, so I asked about the ignore system in the game.

This still has me a bit perplexed, since this has happened three different times... on three different toons. Now, even though there are a lot of players on virtue, very few of them step up to actually host trials. That's the reason why I host trials on my own (Usually MoM, TPN, and Keyes since other people don't run those as often). I am fairly certain that it is the same guy who is doing it, since his name seemed familiar. But, with no ignore message and no common theme between toons (Rogue, Vigilante, Villain), it is implying that this individual is getting the globals from each of their tells, specifically looking for my handle, and then ignoring instead of /ignoring me just to hear me send tells to them and occasionally broadcast.

I suppose that if I had popped redside with my Vigilante for awhile, then it might make that thing where you don't accept tells from the other side an explanation.


Now, the big question you've all been waiting for: Have I run afoul anyone in the game? The answer is yes, I probably have. I imagine it is hard not to, since I have seen players go ballistic for the smallest and stupidest things. I remember once I heard someone go into a long rant because I mentioned that Christmas shopping for my sister was expensive. The flip side to this is that I get plenty of laughs and plenty of praise. I've had numerous tells where I am praised, and I have had none where I am scorned. If people are hating me, they are doing so very quietly. Also to point out, I don't have any recollection of ever sending a tell and being sent the "you are being ignored" message.



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