Devs Communication


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I work in customer service and I can say based on what I have read is that dev communication has improved since Freedom has launched.

Only quibble I have is there is some lag with regards to putting in place what the player base wants and how it fits into their development schedule (eg epic/power customization). But they do eventually fit in room for what is requested the vast majority of time.


 

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Originally Posted by TheJazMan View Post
So, I have been growing tired of this game and ventured out to check some others. I noticed many of these other games update and inform the player base of what is in store for the near future. CoX has been my only game for a while but I started straying...I still....hope to stay here but I digress. These other communities get news about what's coming out ; why don't we? Where are the dev letters or state of game address? It would be nice to see the game head in a fresh direction as it is rather repetitive.
Don't really look beyond your own blinders much, do you?

-Dev Digest
-Community Digest
-Devs Playing the Game
-Ustream
-Seriously, Ustream
-PMs
-Intrepid Informers

I could go on. Do you expect everything to be spoon fed to you?


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I'm a VIP but I only see beta forums for issue 21 which is the current issue and I22 is the one in beta or am I completely missing the actual beta forums?
The way they're now working with Issues and Issue updates is that everything that follows an Issue is counted as part of it, up until the next Issue goes into Beta.
For example, even though Staff Fighting isn't going to be in the I22 launch, it is going to be in the I22 development period - which could mean a couple of weeks after I22 goes live, or as part of an I22.5 Issue update, if they keep on with these mini-Issues likes they've been doing since I19.


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The way they're now working with Issues and Issue updates is that everything that follows an Isue is counted a spart of it, up until the next Issue goes into Beta.
For example, even though Staff Fighting isn't going to be in the I22 launch, it is going to be in the I22 development period - which could mean a couple of weeks after I22 goes live, or as part of an I22.5 Issue update, if they keep on with these mini-Issues likes they've been doing since I19.
No staff at i22 launch? Well grab your crayons and colour me sad I want it at launch!


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No staff at i22 launch? Well grab your crayons and colour me sad I want it at launch!
We ran out of the color sad a while ago. All that's left is ecstatic joy and mind control.


 

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Don't really look beyond your own blinders much, do you?

-Dev Digest
-Community Digest
-Devs Playing the Game
-Ustream
-Seriously, Ustream
-PMs
-Intrepid Informers

I could go on. Do you expect everything to be spoon fed to you?
But getting spoon-fed by Positron is one of the Vet Rewards!


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But getting spoon-fed by Positron is one of the Vet Rewards!
That reward would be awesome and creepy. On one hand, I get to talk with Matt Miller (at least for a few seconds before getting food in my mouth). On the other hand... I'm getting fed by someone other than myself. x.x


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Don't really look beyond your own blinders much, do you?

-Dev Digest
-Community Digest
-Devs Playing the Game
-Ustream
-Seriously, Ustream
-PMs
-Intrepid Informers

I could go on. Do you expect everything to be spoon fed to you?
Some good info from most posts but someone obviously urinated in this guy's cereal. Wow. Snark at it's finest lol. Good comedy right here!

ANyway, I do not play as often as I did nor do I visit the forums as much as I used to. I do appreciate the Ustream synopsis by VK (very cool) and see the odd item here and there. I am not going to go digging for all the details of what is coming up but Zombie Man provided some coming soon general info.

I was actually hoping the devs would post something that gives us a general idea where this game is heading over the next year or so. More trials? TFs? More zone re-makes? Can we finally see Praetoria go away (sick and tired of seeing this especially in all trials)...I know they can't reveal exact details but a general idea would be cool

I would like to say I am surprised by some of the snarky posts but then I'd be telling a fib. Ah yes...the forums...they are full of something


 

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More trials? TFs? More zone re-makes?
Yes, yes and yes.

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Can we finally see Praetoria go away
Well, the Praetorian war storyline is heading towards the climax - but going by hints on the Trials, Praetoria will be an ally of Primal Earth once the Battalion arrives, so it'll continue as a major part of the game world, like the Rogue Isles.


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Some good info from most posts but someone obviously urinated in this guy's cereal. Wow. Snark at it's finest lol. Good comedy right here!
If you can't be bothered to take a few minutes and peruse the Announcements subsection/Dev Digest/game homepage, I can't be bothered to stop myself from calling you on it.

You made your OP as if Paragon was Blizzard.


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If you can't be bothered to take a few minutes and peruse the Announcements subsection/Dev Digest/game homepage, I can't be bothered to stop myself from calling you on it.

You made your OP as if Paragon was Blizzard.
LOL this is awesome. B-Teamers unite! lol


 

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But we do get new, there the Coffee Talk and when times come they will post the info in the News Section of this Website and also on the forums, you just need to no what too look for.


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But getting spoon-fed by Positron is one of the Vet Rewards!
If you're tier 9 he makes airplane noises.


Andy Belford
Community Manager
Paragon Studios

 

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Ah yes...the forums...they are full of something
Yes, full of information directly from the devs a click away. Not to mention the fact that Z or some other red letter does give updates and communicates directly with us daily. We may not like everything they communicate, but they do a darn good job of it and there is no other spin you or anyone else can put on it to change that fact.

Zman did get that info from the devs posting it here.

You are wrong face it.


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LOL this is awesome. B-Teamers unite! lol
I'm sure you'd know all about "b-teamers"


 

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Originally Posted by TheJazMan View Post
I was actually hoping the devs would post something that gives us a general idea where this game is heading over the next year or so. More trials? TFs? More zone re-makes? Can we finally see Praetoria go away (sick and tired of seeing this especially in all trials)...I know they can't reveal exact details but a general idea would be cool
The problem with the developers giving even the vaguest hints of their long range plans is that people will latch onto their comments and hold them as immutable truths. When those plans inevitably change to face the realities of development, the forums become thoroughly inimical to rational thought.

This has happened multiple times in the past and the lesson is always the same: giving out no information is always better than giving out information that is not 100% accurate, because the playerbase can and will nail the developers to the wall when the uncertainties manifest into ugly truths.


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Originally Posted by Gemini_2099 View Post
Only quibble I have is there is some lag with regards to putting in place what the player base wants and how it fits into their development schedule (eg epic/power customization). But they do eventually fit in room for what is requested the vast majority of time.
This.
Sometimes Im just tripping when I see dev quotes like:
"Seriously? You guys want Carnies costume pieces? Or sashes? Really?"
Is like they are kidding or just ignoring the feedback.


 

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Originally Posted by Angelxman81 View Post
This.
Sometimes Im just tripping when I see dev quotes like:
"Seriously? You guys want Carnies costume pieces? Or sashes? Really?"
Is like they are kidding or just ignoring the feedback.
Regarding sashes...

At PAX 2011's costume panel (PAX, not PAX east), I was the first one in line for Q&A/suggestions, and asked for sashes. There was some chuckling from everyone (including in the audience), which may or may not have been because of my enthusiastic IMMEDIATE jump up and scuttle to the microphone, but I think it was also because they were expecting it. (There were some of "those" glances going between the devs. Like "uh huh, who had "first suggestion" in the betting pool?" kind of looks. lol)





(yes, I did scuttle. it was darn near Zoidberg woob woob woob scuttling.)


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Regarding sashes...

At PAX 2011's costume panel (PAX, not PAX east), I was the first one in line for Q&A/suggestions, and asked for sashes. There was some chuckling from everyone (including in the audience), which may or may not have been because of my enthusiastic IMMEDIATE jump up and scuttle to the microphone, but I think it was also because they were expecting it. (There were some of "those" glances going between the devs. Like "uh huh, who had "first suggestion" in the betting pool?" kind of looks. lol)





(yes, I did scuttle. it was darn near Zoidberg woob woob woob scuttling.)
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I'm a little disappointed someone from Paragon Studios isn't making me pancakes and bacon for breakfast while they inform me about the game.

I have to use "their" plentiful, easily accessible tools to find out information, which is totally unfair. I'm a VIP!


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Wat?

Ustream, Conventions, Beta Forums, Beta/Test servers, and patch notes not enough?

I'll do this for you OP, since I'm feeling generous, how about I sneak into all the NCsoft Offices - or - better yet their homes and put up a hidden cam/sound bit in each room with a live feed boosted from an isolated island that is backed by seven racks of black box scramble feed dedicated on several botnet netcaches so you can see EVERYTHING and hear EVERYTHING they do 24/7?

Would that be better?


 

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Hey, this is my hiding place!
Yes, my minion. I know. Nao return to feeding me grapes and giving me vital updates.


 

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Originally Posted by terrible_deli View Post
I'm a little disappointed someone from Paragon Studios isn't making me pancakes and bacon for breakfast while they inform me about the game.

I have to use "their" plentiful, easily accessible tools to find out information, which is totally unfair. I'm a VIP!
Better yet, Bacon Waffles!!!



Thanks Mike (aka Bob)!


If the game spit out 20 dollar bills people would complain that they weren't sequentially numbered. If they were sequentially numbered people would complain that they weren't random enough.

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LOL this is awesome. B-Teamers unite! lol
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I'm sure you'd know all about "b-teamers"
Is he uniting with himself? If mirrors and kissing them are involved in some manner i'm going to be a bit creeped out.

Seriously, i cannot be the only one who completely expected TJC's response when people pointed out how inaccurate and inane his claims were, can i?

Prat: "Dey tells us nuffin', the hypothetical Devs in some unspecified game even tell what they'll be doing a year from now including bathroom use."
Reading Comprehenders: "Did you even bother looking? They tell us stuff all the time; here's a list of upcoming additions and changes that have been discussed in the forums."
Prat: "None of that counts because you suck and I rule. Losers."


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