It's just bad form to swear in-game, if you're not close and familiar enough with everyone on your team to know how they feel about it. These aren't your friends. These aren't your family. You have no idea who they are, or how they feel about explicit language. If you swear around strangers, you are taking your anonymity on the Internet for granted.
Mind your manners.
As for suggestive themes, City of Heroes is a T-rated game, owing to suggestive themes and violence.
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It's not that I think there is an excuse to talk down to other players, because I personally make it a point not to... but having personally been banned for a simple comment about being gay when I am uh.. not straight.... It is a pretty B.S. system they use to decide to ban people. And saying rap music is great if you're (not white) isn't racist either... its stereotypical... it's hardly the same thing.. and banning someone for saying that is silly. I can understand asking them to tone it down as it can be taken offensively... but it isn't blatantly racist or targeted. It's just a stereotype about people who like rap... The same stereotype perpetuated by the people who do, themselves, rap. 
As for the language used in game.. I must agree that the game does have a rating for a purpose... but I can't honestly say it doesn't hit me in the wrong spot either. It does send a pretty messed up message but.. hey I guess at least she's a villain.
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its not in broad use these days, but a variant of the word is an anti-japanese slur. was big in ww2 days.
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Originally Posted by Slaunyeh
In what way is 'Nippy' racist?
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Mine is. Bug it.|
Originally Posted by MisterD
Because, genius move, the filter isnt on by default.
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Hands up who has been reported for bad language? *lifts hand* I have, a few time. |
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In regard to stupid people..well..check this out. (if wiki links are awesome enough to prove GMs arguments, I wanna do it too!) http://www.labnol.org/internet/music...lligence/7489/ There, proof, that a fair portion of rap fans ARE stupid. In the context of that guys study, my comment is totally valid. |
"To come up with this chart, Virgil used Facebook to determine the "Favorite music" at different colleges in US and then combined it with the average combined SAT scores of students from these collegees"
Real scientific.
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Anyway, thank you for reading something that most likely you dont agree with! It made me feel better to write it. Now, I am going in game to insult someone, just so I can say..But in the context of my toons background.. when I get reported! |
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Originally Posted by Samuel_Tow
[The Incarnate System is] Jack Emmert all over again, only this time it's not "1 hero = 3 white minions" it's "1 hero = 3 white rocks."
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There's no need to be prejudiced against practitioners of BDSM. Calling them 'depraved' puts you in the OP's camp.|
Originally Posted by Golden Girl
She's a villain - she's supposed to be depraved.
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Originally Posted by Samuel_Tow
[The Incarnate System is] Jack Emmert all over again, only this time it's not "1 hero = 3 white minions" it's "1 hero = 3 white rocks."
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Back in the 1940s in the United States, "Nip" was a derogatory term for a person from Japan (deriving from "Nippon", one of the transliterations of 日本).
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Originally Posted by Slaunyeh
In what way is 'Nippy' racist?
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We've been told, and told so repeatedly, that the word filter is not an excuse to say profanity. If you use profanity, you are breaching the rules whether the person on the other end can read it or not. That doesn't always make it bad, but when you're a tasteless, insulting *******, then you expect to get reported and acted against. In fact, considering your very first line is a troll, I'm guess you deserve what you got.
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Originally Posted by Arcanaville
Samuel_Tow is the only poster that makes me want to punch him in the head more often when I'm agreeing with him than when I'm disagreeing with him.
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Eh, no, it's nothing like this. It's more like seeing someone light up next to you in a restaurant with "NO SMOKING" signs posted on the door and complaining to the manager. See, one of the rules you agree to EVERY DAMN TIME YOU PLAY THIS GAME ( Right there after you enter your login info. That big thing with the "I Agree" button at the bottom? That's the rules. Might wanna skim them sometimes. ) is that you won't use profanity in the game.|
Originally Posted by MisterD
To me, it is like going into a clearly marked smoking section in a pub, then moaning about not being able to breathe.
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That said, I do agree that the "B-word" is hardly considered profanity anymore ( Key word: "hardly". Some people still consider "hell" to be profanity, but not enough that anyone bothers to censor it anymore ), being one that isn't even censored on network TV anymore. Hell, I don't even think the profanity filter catches it, but I'm not sure about that. I'd have contested it. And, yeah, I also swear occasionally in-game, but only in private channels with my SG where I know everybody is okay with it. Is it still against the rules? Sure. But, no one's going to be offended by it there and report me, so it doesn't matter.
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Originally Posted by Dr_MechanoEU
Yeah I have to turn it off because it autocensors the word Nippy.
Nippy in British slang means 'it's kind of cold outside' as in 'it's a bit nippy today'. And we Brits do love talking about the weather. |
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Originally Posted by Katie V
Back in the 1940s in the United States, "Nip" was a derogatory term for a person from Japan (deriving from "Nippon", one of the transliterations of 日本).
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Anyway, that's what people mean about the filter being too sensitive. It smacks down words that have only obscure racist connotations or even ones that happen to contain a string of letters that might be profanity if you take the rest of the letters away. >< The filter is dumb about context, and that's big enough of a flaw for a lot of people to turn it off.
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I think a lot of people who play this game are way too uptight, and I wonder how many of them watch Family Guy on a regular basis while laughing their ***** off.
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I don't watch much tv anymore, and when I do, I don't watch garbage.
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Originally Posted by Plug_Nickel
I think a lot of people who play this game are way too uptight, and I wonder how many of them watch Family Guy on a regular basis while laughing their ***** off.
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Family Guy annoys me. They use offensive crap in lieu of humor. Sure, the show gets a chuckle out of me now and then, but it too closely follows the trend these days of being stupid rather than funny. ( Example: The Hangover. 1 and 2. Ugh... )
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Originally Posted by Plug_Nickel
I think a lot of people who play this game are way too uptight, and I wonder how many of them watch Family Guy on a regular basis while laughing their ***** off.
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Silver M's Dialogue, is not something I find offensive at all. Maybe my skin is thicker? I don't have much to add here other than...
As for your reports?
If you would not say in person, in a location...filled with a whole bunch of people who are drunk, the opposite of white, or stupid, what you said in the game....then you prolly should not say it in the game.
Apparently the nets make it safer to say things that normally would get you a smack in the face.
The only difference is that Silver M, wouldn't mind it so much. I doubt you could say the same?
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Whenever I've had the misfortune of watching Family Guy, "laughing" was never on the agenda. Grinding my teeth into pulp is closer to the truth. Being offensive is not the same thing as being funny.|
Originally Posted by Plug_Nickel
I think a lot of people who play this game are way too uptight, and I wonder how many of them watch Family Guy on a regular basis while laughing their ***** off.
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That said, I watch the Angry Video Game Nerd and the Spoony One, and these guys drop F-bombs all over the place. But here's the thing - they're not subject to a set of rules which forbid profanity like we are in-game. They're also not calling ME names.
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Originally Posted by Arcanaville
Samuel_Tow is the only poster that makes me want to punch him in the head more often when I'm agreeing with him than when I'm disagreeing with him.
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Talking about stereotypes is only half a step away from being prejudiced, just so you know. It's an incredibly slippery slope, and where most racist people who don't grow up in racist environments/familes/friends get their start (most racist people *do* grow up in racist surroundings, though - racism is a LEARNED behavior).
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Originally Posted by TerraPareo
And saying rap music is great if you're (not white) isn't racist either... its stereotypical... it's hardly the same thing..
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Originally Posted by Dispari
I don't know why Dink thinks she's not as sexy as Jay was. In 5 posts she's already upstaged his entire career.
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Its all about context.
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Stereotyping based on race is racism.
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Originally Posted by TerraPareo
And saying rap music is great if you're (not white) isn't racist either... its stereotypical... it's hardly the same thing.. and banning someone for saying that is silly.
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If you linked to a video of a real life crime it would also be deleted, even if we can commit the exact same crime in-game.|
Originally Posted by Mandu
My two cents. The dialogue does seem somewhat iffy in one manner. If any of us here were to link to a video which showed a woman being beat up and moaning out that sort of dialogue then that post would most likely be deleted. And we would likely receive a pm stating that it was not appropriate for a rated T forum. Then again the forum mods on occasion can be as sensitive as grandmothers at a church function.
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Originally Posted by MrCaptainMan
There's no need to be prejudiced against practitioners of BDSM. Calling them 'depraved' puts you in the OP's camp.
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Yeah, but GG didn't add that context, so I felt it appropriate to counter.|
Originally Posted by Eva Destruction
She is depraved by BDSM standards. The kind of BDSM practiced by fictional villains is generally only superficially similar to anything practiced by real people in real life. |
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Originally Posted by Samuel_Tow
[The Incarnate System is] Jack Emmert all over again, only this time it's not "1 hero = 3 white minions" it's "1 hero = 3 white rocks."
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I don't particularly like fighting Silver Mantis because I always feel bad touched, NOT BECAUSE she's a masochist (there is nothing wrong or weird with them, you get off on what you get off and the only person being hurt is them and that's how they like it) but because she's involving you in her sex act without your actual permission.
But there's nothing inherently wrong with sadism or masochism.
But you know what is inherently wrong? Racism. Which you did.
I don't cuss much m'self, unless I'm talking about comicbooks and it descends into a sort of primal sailor scream of epitaphs as I explain what's happened to the x-men NOW.
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as far as nippy being blocked I'll just leave this here
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That makes me miss the 4Kids grade of censorship, where 'kill' became 'send to another dimension', a news copter became a 'Cargo Robot' (and the cargo was people!), cops pointed invisible guns at children, and Hell became HFIL, the Home For Infinite Losers.|
Originally Posted by Tyger42
That said, I do agree that the "B-word" is hardly considered profanity anymore ( Key word: "hardly". Some people still consider "hell" to be profanity, but not enough that anyone bothers to censor it anymore ), being one that isn't even censored on network TV anymore. Hell, I don't even think the profanity filter catches it, but I'm not sure about that.
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It also makes me miss the more... aggressive filter here in CoX. Remember when things like 'fist' was bleeped?
Hellion: A Hero? I'm gonna feed you my (BEEP)!
It made it so much more amusing. Could you see a villain speech done like that?
Super Villain: You? You DARE (BEEP) into my home and (BEEP) my (BEEP)? I really liked that (BEEP)! It's where I (BEEP)! I will (BEEP) you so much your mother will (BEEP). In fact, maybe I should (BEEP) your mother once I'm done with you?
when it was really
Super Villain: You? You DARE come into my home and break my stuff? I really liked that table! It's where I planned my evil missions! I will hurt you so much your mother will feel it. In fact, maybe I should hurt your mother once I'm done with you?
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Actually no it isn't. Treating somebody in a negative manner or assuming something negative about a person based on their race is racism. Assuming a stereotype about their preferences is not.|
Originally Posted by Diggis
Stereotyping based on race is racism.
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For instance. If I make the statement or assumption that Chinese are bad drivers then that is racist. If on the other hand I make the statement or assume that Chinese eat a lot of rice then it isn't racist. It is stereotyping certainly but in this case it is a true stereotype. The great majority of Chinese eat a lot of rice. It's like them assuming that Americans watch a lot of television. Stereotyping but true. And there is no negative connotation involved.
That is the mistake that a lot of knee jerkers have started to make. That if you assume or state something about somebody due entirely to their race then it must be racism. It is not racism unless it bears a negative connotation.
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I feel it's generally more appropriate to ignore, and not quote her so that people who do ignore her don't have to read her tripe, but that's just me.|
Originally Posted by MrCaptainMan
Yeah, but GG didn't add that context, so I felt it appropriate to counter.
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Originally Posted by MisterMagpie
I don't particularly like fighting Silver Mantis because I always feel bad touched, NOT BECAUSE she's a masochist (there is nothing wrong or weird with them, you get off on what you get off and the only person being hurt is them and that's how they like it) but because she's involving you in her sex act without your actual permission.
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Originally Posted by Mandu
That is the mistake that a lot of knee jerkers have started to make. That if you assume or state something about somebody due entirely to their race then it must be racism. It is not racism unless it bears a negative connotation.
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Oh yes, agree agree. Same page.|
Originally Posted by Eva Destruction
Yes, that is why I said she's depraved by BDSM standards.
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It'd be just as uneasy making if it was something more 'vanilla'.
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Talking of Michelangelo.
*maaaaaaaaaaaaaaaassive snippety-do-dah-age*
Not to mention, it seems like you need to clean up your own language before you get all "THINK of the CHILDREN!" on everyone else.
The Game Masters have all the power, and you have... well.... none. Its a thing to keep in mind.... plus I'd shush about that rap music thing right now, its not going to end well. Unless this was a troll post, and it just might be: no one can be dingy enough to post that sort of thing in here and not expect to get *headsplitter!! for 800 POD* in return. If you get my drift, and I think you do.