[SPOILERS] Shadow shard--wait, what?

Mostly because the Hero skin is buggy. It's still very difficult to read on Villain, though.

Or a color in between the two skins that, while not invisible, is equally difficult to read and thus equally easy to avoid reading until highlighted....


Just use [ color:"#423750"]Your spoiler text here.[ /color]


But, without that space after the bracket. It will look like this...


Your spoiler text here.


... and be much easier to read when highlighted (click and drag your cursor over the text).

You're not. I continue to be baffled by how someone can title a thread with a plot-point they found surprising and not see how anyone else would view that as a spoiler. Some people just like starting threads, I guess.

The quotation box is a lighter shade, so the hidden text shows up slightly better.

Minor edit just to emphasize the point.

...which not every player knows. Not everyone has been playing for years

And I liked your minor edit.

The problem here is not about what constitutes a spoiler, though, but that some posters believe that it's okay to put spoiler text in thread titles (since that's the ONLY issue the anti-spoiler segment has a real problem with) and others of us feel it's not. The pro-spoiler crowd, however, seem to believe that because they can't be bothered to consider how others might feel about the inclusion of spoilers anywhere they want to post them on the boards, that those of us who would rather not have plot-points spoiled for us should never come to the forum at all. And nor do they believe that such feelings are selfish and inconsiderate.

Yes. Because I have this thing called "short term memory". Not everyone has the attention span of a chihuahua on crack.

Sorry, squire. We may have a delay in response, but when we appear, we try to be effective.

That's nonsense too.
Many many people warn of spoilers before they give them. Some only do it for big things, others do it for anything that might spoil any plot point.

How can the request that people warn before they give spoilers be unrealistic when it has been explicitly realised numerous times on multiple different discussion boards by multiple different people?

You just basically can't be arsed, and want an excuse for your inconsiderate behaviour.

Seriously. Thread-jacking is at least as inconsiderate as spoilers without warning.

I thread-jacked for a heroic purpose, which is keeping the surprises under wraps for new players or players who haven't made it to certain content. I will never help spoil the game for anybody, or condone doing so. All of you villainous spoilers can just deal with that.

No it isn't.
Conversations evolve, when a subject starts it often ends up raising other issues, and some of those issue are often ones that can only come up in existing threads.
When you're having a conversation with your friends, do you shout them down any time the subject strays, with a cry of "No, we weren't talking about that, try and stay on topic guys!"?

And on that, where exactly does "thread jacking" begin, who makes the first "inconsiderate" comment? You've clearly just made a post that has as much relation to the original topic as the discussion on spoilers. Does that make you a "thread jacker"? Or does that title fall to me for responding to you? Or are two posts okay, but further ones are wrong?

If the original subject is interesting enough, then it will likely continue along side the "jacking" and if it doesn't then everything there was to say on it has likely been said.
If you two are so keen on the original subject, why don't you make some posts about it, rather than complaining no-one else is? Or have you exhausted your opinions on that subject already?

It sure as hell is.

There was no evolution of conversation here. Captain came in, posted about the spoiler, then repeatedly posted about how spoilers are rude. If my friends and I were discussing, let's say Harry Potter, and someone mentioned a spoiler from the first book which has been out a considerable time, and another member of the group starts ranting about spoilers, I would gladly tell him to stow it and take the conversation somewhere else while the rest of us talk about the book.


Asides are fine, but repeatedly posting off topic is a thread jack. Captain was guilty of it and Ultimus was guilty of being baited by it. It's a real shame because Shard lore is one of my favorite parts of the game, but people have displayed they would much rather discuss what constitutes a spoiler than it, despite the fact that a few of us have made posts on it. Eventually you reach a point where you're just trying to shout above the din. Anyone one that is interested in the matter may not feel like skimming through pages of nonsense to find the relevant bits.

Next time, make sure you folks use a spoiler warning and a non-spoiler title.

Because new players shouldn't -ever- be on the forums to get help, to report bugs, to chat with like minded veteran players, to get advice on a build or class, or just chat about superhero-y things?

That's a pretty narrow minded statement, on the whole.

So, when does a player become 'veteran' enough that they are justified in coming to the forum?

As soon as they register a forum name.

And if they can create universes... They are like gods. Aside from Black Swan, no other character does this.

Also what about all the reflections? And what is the good guy doing in the Shard? Faathim the Kind.

Originally Posted by Dispari I don't know why Dink thinks she's not as sexy as Jay was. In 5 posts she's already upstaged his entire career.

And next time try not to derail a thread. You made your point well enough with the first few posts, there's no need to expound it further. You're only acting as a detriment to those who would like to discuss the lore and are as entitled to their enjoyment as you.

First, the easy bit. Faathim the Kind is an aspect of Rularuu. He is part of Rularuu, but also Rularuu himself, and there others though we have only encoutered two: Lanaru the Mad and Rudalak the Strong. Somewhat like Christianity's holy trinity.

As for the reflections, they are presumably remnants of 1960's Paragon City, when Rularuu first invaded (and attempted to absorb and add Primal Earth to his own strenght?). In Sara Moore's TF, you learn that there have been people living in the Shard for generations, longer than that time frame should have allowed. I assume part of Paragon became a part of Rularuu and the Shard.

The Dream Doctor, to my knowledge, is only mentioned in the hidden objects required for the Midnighter's Archivist badge, in which he calls Rularuu his counter part.

Just what role the Midnighter's played in Rularuu's imprisonment is unclear.