So I'm an Incarnate now, right....?

Yeah, I'm "incarnate."

I enter a trial. OK, no AoEs! ST here, ST go there, AoE people just support 'cause we can't kill X which has one HP.

NO DAMAGE AURAS, who attacked a civilian by accident!!! RAAAAAGE!

I don't know, this does not feel all that Incarnate to me. It feels like things are being taken away from us, not added.

Not to mention the sheer level of temper I am seeing. If these trials fail, so much anger and people being blamed and insulted in League chat. Shameful.

Agreed, when will the devs finally cease their relentless campaign against aoe? Finally we get some new trials and there's a glimmer of hope that for once something other than single target will be valued in City of Heroes, but alas. More aoe persecution. Getting fed up with it myself.

I'm actually fairly surprised they let those out already. I can't imagine they really got much testing with the beta copy tool still broken. I know I didn't bother to go onto beta, and then hope to have a character leveled up so I could assemble it from scratch and be a free tester. I'm usually quite willing to do some testing and enjoy it, but this was just too much bother.

You'd think they would attach some important to getting that tool fixed since it does have a rather important effect on testing.

My favorite character for incarnate trials is my Crab Spider, and he doesn't even have enough single-target attacks to make an attack chain. Still, when we were doing the TPN last night, after some trial and error, we divided the raid up into an outside team for the Telepathists and two inside teans for clearing the terminals, where AoEs are still just fine.
I'm not bothered by the idea that different trials require different skills and tactics.

Wait, there's a trial you can't just faceroll on the keyboard and win?

*shock*

Oh well, I'm sure word will spread quickly enough and we'll be back to running BAF and Lambda.

Why can't you use AOEs? A few single target people can cover the telepathists, everyone else take all the AOEs and put them to use getting to and activating terminals!

Was successful with the following on Defiant...

Team 1: Two tanks, an empath, a blaster, a humanform PB (me), and a combination of Brutes and Scrappers. Successfully killed the telepaths while holding off Maelstrom with this. (well enough that we got the badge for not letting teles convert too many protesters)
Teams 2 and 3 - EVERYONE ELSE, running between buildings, AOEing enemies inside and activating terminals.

You know speaking from a villain mind set you could form a group up specifically to have fun killing the civilians. It could relieve some of the OMG YOU KILLED ONE!!11!!11!1! frustration.

You know, since TPN requires people to pay more attention than the others, and one or two people can screw it up for the league, I wonder if it will encourage league leaders to run it with the minimum league size instead of the max?

If that's the case I'll start looking for TPN runs, just to avoid the whole sitting in PD/RWZ for 30 minutes with 15-18 people in the league while the leader says "we only need 6 more!".

I ran a couple of failed TPN trials last night. I didn't find those as frustrating as failed UG runs. Perhaps it's a sense that the WW and Avatar in UG are just pure cheese, and this trial didn't feel like that. I also remember how many BAFs and Lambdas ended in failure when they first came out, and what ROFLstomps they tend to be now, that everyone has figured out the tactics. I suspect that with a little rebalancing and tweaking, TPN could be the same, once people get some practice.

Did three TPN last night:

One success and one failure on Infinity; the successful run had a small group plinking away at Telepathists. Some of our group sniped them and then we dispatched them easily, while the other two teams accessed terminals.

The failed attempt on Infinity was basically running out of time to do our job and not out of any ill-timed attacks.

Our attempt on Exalted fell through because of lack of speed at terminals, but we had a fairly competent group overall.

Of the new trials, TPN will likely be on "auto-farm" within a week or two while Minds of Mayhem will gather dust until the Devs take a look at some of the mechanics (blue patches PLUS no hospital PLUS punitive rez mechanics) or increase rewards for MoM.

I gave up on Trials completely ages back, simply because I didn't find them fun. Sure, regular content can be frustrating at times (Looking at you, LGTF Hami and your two-shot homing KOs) but at least it's for the most part fun, unless you're having a really bad day and all the numbers are against you.

EVERY day is a bad day with ITrials.

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Originally Posted by Zwillinger GG, I would tell you that "I am killing you with my mind", but I couldn't find an emoticon to properly express my sentiment.

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Originally Posted by Captain_Photon NOTE: The Incarnate System is basically farming for IOs on a larger scale, and with more obtrusive lore.

The TPN feels like an extended version of the Prisoner Escape phase of the BAF... with a much smaller margin of error.

Everyone has a role. AoEers and control types camp doors and handle the minions in the BAF, and massacre the Technician spawns in the TPN. Single target oriented types spike the commandos in the BAF, and eliminate the Telepathists in the TPN.

Hopefully like the BAF, the TPN will be done in our sleep once what's expected becomes more common knowledge.

The MoM 'no hospital' thing seems easy enough to avoid. There's an incarnate ability with an ally rez AoE, isn't there? Also, toons can rez with whatever ally rezzes they have. My blaster has Rise of the phoenix, I've used that. Avoiding the pink (not blue) patches of death is fairly easy, I found.

I've managed to fail the MoM three times without dying once now.

I find the Void bit to be the worst part - it's too confusing targeting the voids whilst not targeting the gyres (what are they supposed to be, anyway?)

Eco

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Originally Posted by Samuel_Tow [The Incarnate System is] Jack Emmert all over again, only this time it's not "1 hero = 3 white minions" it's "1 hero = 3 white rocks."