Discussion: Featured Items at the Paragon Market - 11/29/11
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Posted on: 2011-11-29 13:24 in News, Events and Announcement Discussion
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You mean the gunbelt Enforcers from Thugs have been wearing since forever and has been ingame for ages?|
Originally Posted by Son Of Nyx
Wow, and my main complaint was just that the male set is hideously ugly. That belt...all those cow skulls...that jacket...the nappy hair coming out of the weird hats. It's like "Rob Zombie's High Noon".
The one thing I wanted from a Gunslinger set was a belt with holsters, and instead of that we get some weird Rodeo Champeen hula hoop. Please...for the love of bacon, can we have belts with holsters? Please? Even just the Official belt with the nightstick taken off and the holster copied-flipped-pasted? Please? |
Really, why can't devs just give us this belt if it's already there? :3
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I'd really like a concise answer to that question. For really outlandish costume parts that need custom animations to avoid hideous clipping or other serious problems, I could understand, but, in this case...?
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Originally Posted by Ideon
Really, why can't devs just give us this belt if it's already there? :3
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Really this is one of the worst ideas I've ever heard. Tying up additional dev time and resources to create specific in-game lore reasons why we can wear corsets is bound to just annoy literally everyone except for you.
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Originally Posted by Jonny_B
And yes, Angelxman81, I am serious. A mission or two (2) would be a nice accompaniment to the costume set.
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Originally Posted by PRAF68_EU
Dispari has more than enough credability, and certainly doesn't need to borrow any from you.
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"Greetings, hero! We need you to stand on this corner by this red light and satisfy some lonely people's carnal urges!"
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Originally Posted by Jonny_B
I'll give you credit, it goes along with Buttflap or Muddflap.
And yes, Angelxman81, I am serious. A mission or two (2) would be a nice accompaniment to the costume set. If I am going to buy something I'd like to WHY I NEED to buy it. |
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To keep it consise: corsets =/= prostitutes, short skirts =/= prostitutes, high boots =/= prostitutes.
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Wow. Yeah. This. I've never ran with a Thugmaster, and hadn't seen that belt. But that's about perfect.|
Originally Posted by Ideon
You mean the gunbelt Enforcers from Thugs have been wearing since forever and has been ingame for ages?
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Unless I'm missing it, there's no trenchcoat with a duster cape, is there?
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That's just the normal trenchcoat they're wearing. Tier 2 reward if I remember correctly (previously three months vet badge).
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Originally Posted by Son Of Nyx
Wow. Yeah. This. I've never ran with a Thugmaster, and hadn't seen that belt. But that's about perfect.
Unless I'm missing it, there's no trenchcoat with a duster cape, is there? |
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-- High-Roller
I bought the gunslinger costume set since I like to have options. Oh, my. This is one that I should have checked out first. Have the people that made this set ever watched a western? Your gunbelt goes UNDER you coat. Where the heck are the holsters? I was thinking that this would be perfect for my Dual Pistol characters, but I'm afraid that it falls well short of my expectations.
I was expecting something like
and
not what I see.
The female gunslinger costume is a cruel joke.
Could someone please tell me why the do nothing dog costs more points than a costume set?
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"Silly villain, CoX is for Heroes!" -Saicho
No hats and no holsters, either.
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Originally Posted by Vega
Could someone please tell me why the do nothing dog costs more points than a costume set?
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It's just an addition to the Costume set offering that could be offered in AE. Which wouldn't take too much time to make. And it's not WHY you can wear it but, how you got it. |
Originally Posted by Dispari
Really this is one of the worst ideas I've ever heard. Tying up additional dev time and resources to create specific in-game lore reasons why we can wear corsets is bound to just annoy literally everyone except for you.
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And you are right, I'm sure EVERYONE except for me will be annoyed at having another mission to play.
"...now you see that evil will always triumph because good is dumb" - Dark Helmet
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People already dislike the lore behind incarnate stuff and needing a reason for everything. And PPPs. And the dumb in-game explanations we got for proliferation rounds and new powersets. What you're saying is that we need even more obtrusive lore.|
Originally Posted by Jonny_B
It's just an addition to the Costume set offering that could be offered in AE. Which wouldn't take too much time to make. And it's not WHY you can wear it but, how you got it.
And you are right, I'm sure EVERYONE except for me will be annoyed at having another mission to play. |
Also, that you think every new addition to the game should require the added efforts of an entirely different department and that the mission-making people should spend all their time cranking out missions explaining why you have a dog or a cowboy hat instead of making more useful or meaningful missions. Ultimately, it would slow down releases of things like costume packs and powerset releases if they have to wait for missions to complete, and slow down the releases of actual content like new zones, trials, and task forces because those people are busy doing something else.
All so the game can tell you where you found that cigarette.
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Originally Posted by PRAF68_EU
Dispari has more than enough credability, and certainly doesn't need to borrow any from you.
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This times one billion. I should have done research before buying as well, but I'm happy enough with the male side of the set (except for the lack of holsters and the hula hoop belt). It's just the female side that blows.
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Originally Posted by Vega
I was expecting something like
and not what I see. |
Agua Man lvl 48 Water/Electric Blaster
"To die hating NCSoft for shutting down City of Heroes, that was Freedom."
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blah blah blah. go pick a fight else where and lets get back on topic. |
Originally Posted by Dispari
People already dislike the lore behind incarnate stuff and needing a reason for everything. And PPPs. And the dumb in-game explanations we got for proliferation rounds and new powersets. What you're saying is that we need even more obtrusive lore.
Also, that you think every new addition to the game should require the added efforts of an entirely different department and that the mission-making people should spend all their time cranking out missions explaining why you have a dog or a cowboy hat instead of making more useful or meaningful missions. Ultimately, it would slow down releases of things like costume packs and powerset releases if they have to wait for missions to complete, and slow down the releases of actual content like new zones, trials, and task forces because those people are busy doing something else. All so the game can tell you where you found that cigarette. |
This set is obviously lacking and people are upset. Give the people what they want and make most people happy.
"...now you see that evil will always triumph because good is dumb" - Dark Helmet
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I go where I'm needed.
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Originally Posted by Jonny_B
blah blah blah. go pick a fight else where.
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Originally Posted by PRAF68_EU
Dispari has more than enough credability, and certainly doesn't need to borrow any from you.
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A buttcape! Sort of. Finally. I like the pack.
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While making missions for buttcaprons is kind of silly (I loathe the TF to get the witch hat for example...) having a mission that had a "save the dog" side goal would be fun and unobtrusive. Even better as an Attack Dog temp power, but I imagine we'll never see that happen because of animal cruelty possibilities...
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Originally Posted by Jonny_B
Here's your German Shepard! Your loyal companion is unconditionally grateful that you took the time to release him from the 5th's pound!
Make it happen! |
Feedback on the Gunslinger set:
Keep 2 things in mind while reading this:
1) This is not an attack on the skill of the costume designers or the actual quality of the items themselves. That's all spiffy as far as I can see.
2) My polite tone (I think so at least), is just a tin layer of veneer hiding my ever mounting frustration and disappointment with the continuing gender issues.
So, here goes:
- I really, REALLY would've liked a proper female gunslinger outfit. It seems we're having this discussion every single time a new costume set is released for YEARS now. (Where's my female Baron coat and boots? And you denied me another overcoat with the steampunk pack.) You'd think it would've registered by now.
If we ever get, say for example, a medieval costume pack and the male pieces are for an armored knight while the female costume is some sort of half naked princess or damsel in distress I'm going to blow a fuse. I don't mind a princess outfit in itself, but there'd better be a female armored knight! And if you must have the princess outfit there should be a prince outfit as well.
- So many textured items. It's nice to have some textures on costume pieces, sure, but because of the effect it has on the colors it also creates obvious tint difference with already existing pieces. This makes it a pain to mix and match pieces from different sets because it just doesn't look right. It is a menace on the steampunk parts, it's a menace here. Please tone it down or offer textureless versions. Mixing and matching costume pieces is the main point of the costume creator, everything impeding that should be considered a big no-no.
- The female parts are actually quite nice. They fit in quite well with the female steampunk bits as alternative/supplements. But as I said, they are really not what I wanted out of this pack.
- I love the hair. It's what I wanted when in the steampunk pack feedback thread I asked for the female hair option without the hat.
- To bad you can't have the bow/hair ribbon without the veil.
- Overall I'm not all that thrilled with the look of the actual gunslinger parts (i.e. the male/huge ones). The base layer is well enough, but all the extra frills just don't mesh with my idea of a dusty lawman/outlaw gunslinger.
- I'm really glad you have options without the cow skulls on the various items. 'Cause: tacky.
- The male belt is much more 'rodeo clown' than 'dangerous gunslinger' i.m.o.
- The Diamondback pistols would be awesome, if it wasn't for the cow horns on them. Way to theme specific and makes them unusable for all other themes. Things like this really should be avoided i.m.o. See my mix'n match argument a few points back.
@True Metal
Co-leader of Callous Crew SG. Based on Union server.
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True, bot none of them = gunslinger either.
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Originally Posted by Hellwolve_EU
To keep it consise: corsets =/= prostitutes, short skirts =/= prostitutes, high boots =/= prostitutes.
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@True Metal
Co-leader of Callous Crew SG. Based on Union server.
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I like your idea of side missions! Much better than a stand alone mission. If it's done tastefully or tactfully, then there should not be an issue. Anyways, yea wishful thinking.
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Originally Posted by Son Of Nyx
While making missions for buttcaprons is kind of silly (I loathe the TF to get the witch hat for example...) having a mission that had a "save the dog" side goal would be fun and unobtrusive. Even better as an Attack Dog temp power, but I imagine we'll never see that happen because of animal cruelty possibilities...
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"...now you see that evil will always triumph because good is dumb" - Dark Helmet
This pack is a fail on all levels. It's quite clear that it's not what the playerbase wanted in any sense, and even putting that aside the whole thing is horribly designed. Most of the parts have horrible clipping when not used with a specific model size. If you put the star belt on an average female character then adjust the waist slider you can watch as the belt either hovers around her waist or vanishes into her thighs, god help you if you try to use it with a trenchcoat, she'll end up wearing the belt around her stomach. Whoever is the person who signed off on this needs to be slapped this minute by someone in the office.
There is a difference between retreating and giving up.
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Exception: (corsets + short skirts + high boots) + wild west setting = prostitutes.|
Originally Posted by Hellwolve_EU
To keep it consise: corsets =/= prostitutes, short skirts =/= prostitutes, high boots =/= prostitutes.
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That said, the context isn't a Wild West setting - this is City Of 
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I have to agree, and while I personally like the more, red light, costume pieces, I think having some rough rider costumes for the females would be in order. We are missing holsters... a good cowboy hat... the tin star for the jacket... Lots of things that are gunslinger cliche, and the girls are all ginslingers instead of gunslingers at best... |
Originally Posted by Zombie Man
Exception: (corsets + short skirts + high boots) + wild west setting = prostitutes.
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is sad...
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Not enough Evil...
I take it back NC SOFT is enough evil for anyone...
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I think the context of the costume pack is decidedly Wild West.
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Originally Posted by Hellwolve_EU
That said, the context isn't a Wild West setting - this is City Of
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Agua Man lvl 48 Water/Electric Blaster
"To die hating NCSoft for shutting down City of Heroes, that was Freedom."
And yes, Angelxman81, I am serious. A mission or two (2) would be a nice accompaniment to the costume set. If I am going to buy something I'd like to WHY I NEED to buy it.
"...now you see that evil will always triumph because good is dumb" - Dark Helmet