So, 'pay to win' is the future of CoH?

Well, if you're going to use such definitions of power, then I have no problems with them selling it.

By the first definition, everything they sell is power. New costume piece? That's the power to select that piece on your character. Morality system? That's the power to travel from Paragon to the Rogue Isles. etc.

And, by the second definition, electricity companies have been selling power for years and no-one seems to have a problem. I'd be very happy if NCSoft starting selling power if they undercut my current provider.

I'm not sure how this applies at all. For one this is PvP. In the game you're competing against a character (the computer) who doesn't care if you "cheat." The computer also is not going to spend money to beat you.

And how often do the devs wreck the game and make us pay money to fix it?

Originally Posted by PRAF68_EU Dispari has more than enough credability, and certainly doesn't need to borrow any from you.

It's a shame you can't pay to win on the forums, since you seem to think there's a competition here.

It seems everything is a competition to Another Fan. And if it's not about "skills" then he's being cheated.

I don't know what game he's playing but I've been running +2 level content with my five year old with no issue. So my normal team is a scrapper build based on what looks cool with fire backed with a play style of "look bad guys lets push random numbers!" and a mostly illiterate five year old on a Brute. This is done with almost no deaths (sometimes my son runs into too many mobs) and little down time (except for when I get lost). Since we push through EBs and AVs with little hassle I can only assume AFs dependency on carefully calculated builds is somehow related to a severely handicapped play style.

I think my hyperbole meter just broke.

Let's see...

I have purchased a number of costumes. A couple powersets. More Enhancement slots. Oh and some Thunderstrike sets.

Still playing by the same rules. Nothing that breaks the rules or changes the game. I can carry some more stuff, and I don't have to buy 3 set of Thunderstrikes with inf.

How on earth can you actually be using logic to come to the example you used?

Please do continue to try and insult my intelligence though, it really does help make your point.

I stand by my statement that the game needs to be profitable to survive and I will continue to help make it profitable so that I can continue to play it.

So, an MMO RPG CCG?

I like it...

Actually, he said .......

So, according to him, it has absolutely nothing to do with skills ("with a few exceptions"), and everything to do with having shiny IOs. You see, if he doesn't have all the biggest and best shinies, he sucks, and therefore he feels cheated (the same goes for everybody).

I keep quoting this specific statement because it more or less sums up how disconnected from reality Another Fan really is.

Isn't Dictionary.com convenient? Especially when you can just copy and paste, and not even have to think about it. But I guess thats in your style. Because, obviously, it takes no brains or skill at all to play this game. You dont' even need to think about it. All you need is shinies.

The difference is, you don't play against other people in City of Heroes (with the exception of PvP, which is not on trial here). Here's a better analogy: you and a friend are playing a friendly cooperative game of <insert fun video game here>. Your friends computer is much better than yours, while your computer lags and causes your framerate to tank. You can still kill the baddies but the movement is jerky, your graphics are chunking along, and its harder for you to kill baddies as a result (though by no means impossible). Are you gonna start berating your friend because he/she has better "stuff" than you? Perhaps this person is independantly wealthy and can afford a really nice computer, where as you have to work every day and save up the money to buy a decent computer. Is it that persons fault that they have more money than you and can afford a better computer to play the cooperative video game that you are enjoying together?

QFT .... big time.

This is the fundamental problem here. Another Fan wants to compete with people in a cooperative game. Instead of saying "Thats cool that you have <X>! It looks like you're really enjoying <X>! Maybe I'll save money from my paper route and buy <X> too somtime!"
Instead its "You have <X> and I don't! That means you are better than me, and I can't have somone being better than me! Its NOT FAIR!"

At the end of the day, its quite obvious that we're not gonna get the message across. Another Fan has it firmly embedded in his brain that CoH is all about being better than the person next to you, and if you can't be better than the person next to you, you are going to fail miserably at everything you do ("with a few exceptions" .... whatever that means .... in fact, please explain to me what the few exceptions are).

The avatar should come with a permanent aura of little gold dollar signs floating away from you. ^.^

To be honest, it would bother me, but I would get over it, so long as nothing the premade 'came with' was transferrable.

This is from a guy who bought copies [another NCSoft game that allows you to start at max level] for several friends. And now we never play it together

The main reason that it would bother me is that I think time should be valued more than money. To what degree? YMMV.

So, being able to 'carry' more stuff is somehow an increase in power, when the stuff is imaginary and has no mass? <snicker>
Exactly what was that explanation supposed to help me with?

I say, Mimsy, the commoners are rabble rousing again. <sip>

--NT

Extra market slots are convenient but not game-breaking. I`ve pulled in a ton of inf lately not due to those, but due to unslotters, which have allowed me to gain back my stranded level 52 Hamis and pvp IOs as well...all to the market for a hefty return.

We don`t even know how much it would cost for these purples. If it`s less than getting X billion from RMT or the time required to get X billion, no one will buy them...

$100 is a lot. I`d pay maybe $25 or so for that...maybe a little more. I would only get it if I could choose my slotting and get vouchers for IOs and it had accolades...and I would use it to PvP, of course.

don't tell that to your significant other when its sexy time...... >.>