Who Will Die Part 2 SSA - Thoughts
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Posted on: 2011-10-11 03:50 in CoH and CoV General Discussions
Also: I might be wrong from the promo, but given how they were talking about how we could affect things and change the world permanently via phasing tech... I was wondering if they're not going to *let us* pick Who Will Die.
"Men strunt �r strunt och snus �r snus
om ock i gyllne dosor.
Och rosor i ett sprucket krus
�r st�ndigt alltid rosor."
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Zwil's fairly repeatedly gone on record as saying they have a plan for who it'll be, specifically, so I don't see that happening. I think the most we can hope for is the trigger in our hands in the final villain arc.
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Originally Posted by Arilou
Also: I might be wrong from the promo, but given how they were talking about how we could affect things and change the world permanently via phasing tech... I was wondering if they're not going to *let us* pick Who Will Die.
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Storm Elementals are Lanaru the Mad's creations, though, and even the Wisp will tell you that Lanaru is separate from Rularuu. That's not to say they're different people; Lanaru is still an aspect of Rularuu, but it seems his madness and his rebellious disobedience may have granted him a measure of actual freedom.|
Originally Posted by ReclusesPhantom
I'm willing to bet that Rularuu is part of the Coming Storm. I mean, they did use Storm Elemental models in the caves.
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I really need to bring up the Verse of Lanaru from the Faatim TF...
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Originally Posted by Arcanaville
Samuel_Tow is the only poster that makes me want to punch him in the head more often when I'm agreeing with him than when I'm disagreeing with him.
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Silos is a flashback and wouldn't need to be rewritten. The only thing that would be at all difficult to rewrite would be Twinshot's arc.|
Originally Posted by Aether_Crash
Thoughts on the arc as a whole: since they flat out stated that the means there were using wouldnt affect Numina, she probably wont die. probably a red herring, but who knows. I still stand by my stance that Manticore wont die, he's too pivotal to certain story arcs to eliminate without some hilariously goofy rewrites (Silos anyone?). overall, i still think itll be Positron or Statesman, because Citadel and Sister Psyche are too easily fixable and feel like giant cop-outs.
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Originally Posted by ReclusesPhantom
I'm willing to bet that Rularuu is part of the Coming Storm. I mean, they did use Storm Elemental models in the caves.
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Originally Posted by Lazarillo
I don't see Nemesis strolling into the back room of a bar,
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Darkfire Avenger DM/SD/Body Scrapper
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Assuming that our unknown guy is someone we know...
-Recluse already has power-siphoning tech. I also doubt he'd be the kind of guy to hang around in a bar.
-One of his LT's? Might be.
-There's the entire Imperious/Sister Airlia connection, that might tie into Ghost Widow somehow. (they're somehow linked) but it doesen't quite feel right.
-I Doubt Mako or BS is smart enough to pull something like this off.
-It fits Scirocco's area of expertise (most of the stuff's been magic-based) but it doesen't feel like his MO.
-Somehow I can't see Nemesis hanging around in a bar. Although there's always the option of an Automaton.
-Darrin Wade was involved in the plot and didn't act like they thought he would. Seems unlikely.
-One of the Council guys? The Center or Requiem? Feels a bit too subtle for them, and again, not really their MO.
-Protean? This kind of manipulation and double-dealing *feels* like him.
-Someone from Praetoria? Doubtful. There's not much Praetorian imprint here. It might be Diabolique I guess, but still doesen't feel right.
"Men strunt �r strunt och snus �r snus
om ock i gyllne dosor.
Och rosor i ett sprucket krus
�r st�ndigt alltid rosor."
It's Babydoll mind controlling Scirocco
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Yes, but can he write "Rulu-Shin Go Home!" in Latin?
| I wondered that about Wade too. I figured either he's running a much larger gambit than the Rulu-Shin, or while he's all for Rularuu coming and eating everyone, he's still against the Rulu-Shin because they're a bunch of splitters. |
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"And I say now these kittens, they do not get trained/As we did in the days when Victoria reigned!" -- T. S. Eliot, "Gus, the Theatre Cat"
Hey. The dude from the cutscene is in the last mission hero-side. Do we know who that guy is yet?
Thanks for eight fun years, Paragon.
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If that happens, I, who play exclusively blueside and have only one villain (to play with my husband when he INSISTS we have to go play over there) will take EVERY FREAKING ONE of my characters redside to kill States, if he is indeed the one to die. Count on it.
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Originally Posted by Lazarillo
Zwil's fairly repeatedly gone on record as saying they have a plan for who it'll be, specifically, so I don't see that happening. I think the most we can hope for is the trigger in our hands in the final villain arc.
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For general lore reasons, if the killing blow is done by the player and not an NPC, they'll probably need to make the identity of the killer unknown to the rest of the game world, otherwise it'd be very difficult to write the offical story of what happened to the one who dies.
@Golden Girl
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You'd also have to cut him out of the LRSF and do some rewriting on Westin Phipps's "Bane of the Heart" arc.
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Originally Posted by Eva Destruction
Silos is a flashback and wouldn't need to be rewritten. The only thing that would be at all difficult to rewrite would be Twinshot's arc.
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34 heroes,
20 villains, Victory, Justice, Infinity, Virtue, Triumph, Exalted -- some more active than others
Ok I finally finished the arc, although it was on my MA/Regen scrapper and not my PB, oh well then I ran it redside with my brute. Yeah the arc was pretty good. I have this sneaky suspision that the Leviathan will play a part in all this, I don't know why though.
Cancel the kitchen scraps for widows and lepers, no more merciful beheadings and call off christmas!
The final EB is quite susceptible to knockback / knockdown. Used Focus and Shockwave with my Claws/Dark scrapper to keep him on his backside instead of swatting me with that axe.
Virtue Server: Jet Flash L50+3 EN/EN/Force Blaster | Doctor Mechanus L50+3 R/T/Mu MM | Titanium Girl L50+3 Inv/SS/EN Tanker | Kaishin L50+3 DB/SR/Primal Scrapper | Opilia L50+3 Crab Spider | Clockstriker L50+1 Kin/Elec/Primal Scrapper | Foxy Starr L27 Beam/Time Corrupter
The contact does not look like a Luddite. He looks like an anime ninja.
WHY IS HE WEARING A FEDORA?
The Rularuu Shin. Rularuu Ninjas?
LAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAME!#
Did marketing tell you to make enemies only out of purchasable parts?
Where is Numina?
OH WE FORGOT NUMINA IN THE NUMINA-THEMED ARC! QUICK PUT HER IN THE LAST MISSION SOMEWHERE!
Seriously what is this? This is just lame fan fiction.
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You only list known villains. What if the bad guy is someone we think of as a hero?|
Originally Posted by Arilou
Assuming that our unknown guy is someone we know...
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In fact, what if the bad guy is a member of the Freedom Phalanx? In which case, we may be the one to kill them!
Always remember, we were Heroes.
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Good point. But in that case we can narrow down which of the Surviving Eight it's not.|
Originally Posted by Dr_Darkspeed
You only list known villains. What if the bad guy is someone we think of as a hero?
In fact, what if the bad guy is a member of the Freedom Phalanx? In which case, we may be the one to kill them! |
It's a good chance Synapse, Numina, Statesman, Manticore, Sister Psyche and Aurora are off that list.
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The Hero arc of this didn't feel all that exciting. Jumping around portals was fun but the rest of it was pretty dull. We were chasing Numina's Dad's skull because it's important and ... we get the skull back and all is well.
Yay.
I've heard the Villain Version is a lot better.
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Originally Posted by Fanservice
The Hero arc of this didn't feel all that exciting. Jumping around portals was fun but the rest of it was pretty dull. We were chasing Numina's Dad's skull because it's important and ... we get the skull back and all is well.
Yay. I've heard the Villain Version is a lot better. |
Mission 1, aside from the confusion with Wade, ends on a much more epic note where you're fending off swarms of Rulu-shin with the other midnighters. For villains this mission isn't even 5 minutes. You go into the vault, kill the lone mob, get Tommy's baseball cap, then the Midnighters teleport in with a big mob of animated armors and you promptly flee (or take them off, for the villainously insane, but the mission is over by the time they show up)
Mission 2 is the exact same for both sides.
Mission 3 is almost entirely the same, except Villains have to break into Stein's vault and fight a giant eye monster, then it's the exact same except at the very end where you can threaten to crush Tommy's skull and Numina will give you a temp power in exchange for not doing so.
Those are the only differences really.
I really enjoyed this arc. Coincidentally, I'd just spent the day reading paragonwiki's articles on the Shadow Shard TF's, so Rularu was fresh on my mind. It never occured to me that he might have human cultists trying to free him, in addition to his monsters, so stumbling across them in the first mission raised the tension immediately. The second mission was cake, since I'd studied the lore earlier in the day. The last mission completely sold me on the idea of "avoid suspicion" -- I even turned on walk, to suppress my taunt aura, since I didn't know what the game would consider "suspicious". I really felt like a superhero sneaking around in his secret identity. And as intended, I was racing through the boom tubes only to yelp out loud and come to a screeching halt when I suddenly saw the glow of the great scientist's mitochondria.
Mechanically, I was greatful that at 30(+5) I had a full attack chain and most of my mitigation in place. The waves of Cthulhu ninjae in mission one was wonderful. (I just wish I had let them take out Kadabra Kill. I can't count how often he's arrested my villains.) The EB at the end was the only time my DM/WP scrapper noticed his green bar move at all. I also enjoyed dealing with the sphinx, and the infiltration. I hope they use creative gimmicks like those in future missions.
I hate that the Rulu-Shin are becoming something legitimate in CoH putely by virtue of us talking about them.
Can't we just collectively pretend they don't exist? Rularuu ninjas. Way to jump the friggin' shark.
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They are a standard lovecraftian cult, whats the problem with them?
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Originally Posted by Xanatos
I hate that the Rulu-Shin are becoming something legitimate in CoH putely by virtue of us talking about them.
Can't we just collectively pretend they don't exist? Rularuu ninjas. Way to jump the friggin' shark. |
Always remember, we were Heroes.
Galactus is invading!
...watch out for his army of ninjas!
Totally suits.
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What's wrong with crazed cultists trying to free an insane god to devour the multiverse? |
Originally Posted by Xanatos
I hate that the Rulu-Shin are becoming something legitimate in CoH putely by virtue of us talking about them.
Can't we just collectively pretend they don't exist? Rularuu ninjas. Way to jump the friggin' shark. |
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Originally Posted by Xanatos
Cthulhu is waking up! ...watch out for his army of cultists form Louisiana, Greenland and various small Pacific islands! Totally suits. |
@Golden Girl
City of Heroes comics and artwork
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I think you're thinking about it too hard.|
Originally Posted by Xanatos
Galactus is invading!
...watch out for his army of ninjas! Totally suits. |
They weren't ninja. They're more like the Legacy Chain, but following Rularuu.
Loose --> not tight.
Lose --> Did not win, misplace, cannot find, subtract.
One extra 'o' makes a big difference.
"Men strunt �r strunt och snus �r snus
om ock i gyllne dosor.
Och rosor i ett sprucket krus
�r st�ndigt alltid rosor."