Premium Players get less than expected!

Red_X2 · 09-26-2011 03:56 PM

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Originally Posted by The_Spad_EU

Well of course; the only way to make money from a F2P game is either to sell players lots of stuff or convince them to subscribe (if you offer such things). The challenge is to give them enough stuff for free that they'll want to play, but not so much that they won't see any reason to pay.

And they failed horribly. They stripped accounts so hard that they aren't worth playing without a sub or extra cash. You NEED money to make them worth it in my eyes.

Aneko · 09-26-2011 03:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Red_X2

And they failed horribly. They stripped accounts so hard that they aren't worth playing without a sub or extra cash. You NEED money to make them worth it in my eyes.

A business tries to make money. Film at 11.

'I don't like the look of it at all,' said the King: 'however, it may kiss my hand if it likes.'
'I'd rather not,' the Cat remarked.
'Don't be impertinent,' said the King, 'and don't look at me like that!' He got behind Alice as he spoke.
'A cat may look at a king,' said Alice.

CactusBrawler · 09-26-2011 04:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Aneko

A business tries to make money. Film at 11.

Followed up by the sequal "A business tries to make money 2: oooops how did we fail?" at 12.45 am.

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Feycat · 09-26-2011 04:06 PM

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Originally Posted by FizRep

To whichever Mod renamed this thread:

I love you. <3

This so much

Red_X2 · 09-26-2011 04:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Aneko

A business tries to make money. Film at 11.

A horrible way to make cash is turning new players away at the door because of all of the harsh restrictions. I'm not saying that will happen, but its a definite possibility.

The guy I quoted had it right. Give just the right amount and the players will pay. They should tone down the restrictions a bit to make the game more appealing.

Aneko · 09-26-2011 04:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Red_X2

A horrible way to make cash is turning new players away at the door because of all of the harsh restrictions. I'm not saying that will happen, but its a definite possibility.

New players aren't being restricted, returning players who don't want to pay are.

'I don't like the look of it at all,' said the King: 'however, it may kiss my hand if it likes.'
'I'd rather not,' the Cat remarked.
'Don't be impertinent,' said the King, 'and don't look at me like that!' He got behind Alice as he spoke.
'A cat may look at a king,' said Alice.

TwoHeadedBoy · 09-26-2011 04:16 PM

This might sound selfish, but I have no problem with returning players not having access to Incarnate content- I've already had an issue with a lot of current players not knowing how to run trials, I would hate to see the floodgate open to even more people who have no idea what they're doing. Sorry, but I already got all of the "Wow this is cool!" out of me; I'm doing them for the rewards now.

That being said, I have no gripes with Premium players (Edit: Who have purchased GR) having access to the alpha slot and as it was the only one available during GR, I can see the point in them being allowed access to it.

Gangrel_EU · 09-26-2011 04:18 PM

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Originally Posted by CactusBrawler

Followed up by the sequal "A business tries to make money 2: oooops how did we fail?" at 12.45 am.

Followed up by "The players wanted everything for free, and so didnt pay a penny" at 01:00am

BTW, i notice that you havent been able to supply evidence of Incarnate stuff being promised with Going Rogue...

CactusBrawler · 09-26-2011 04:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Gangrel_EU

Followed up by "The players wanted everything for free, and so didnt pay a penny" at 01:00am

BTW, i notice that you havent been able to supply evidence of Incarnate stuff being promised with Going Rogue...

Funny enough Gangrel hun, I've been at work.

Brawling Cactus from a distant planet.

Aneko · 09-26-2011 04:23 PM

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Originally Posted by TwoHeadedBoy

That being said, I have no gripes with Premium players (Edit: Who have purchased GR) having access to the alpha slot and as it was the only one available during part of GR Beta, I can see the point in them being allowed access to it.

Fixed.

'I don't like the look of it at all,' said the King: 'however, it may kiss my hand if it likes.'
'I'd rather not,' the Cat remarked.
'Don't be impertinent,' said the King, 'and don't look at me like that!' He got behind Alice as he spoke.
'A cat may look at a king,' said Alice.

TwoHeadedBoy · 09-26-2011 04:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Aneko

Fixed.

Uh, when I purchased GR, it granted me access to the Incarnate System. Maybe that means I'm a n00b and therefore my opinion is invalid, but for those of you who don't think that the amount of time you've spent playing the game can either validate or invalidate your past purchases, no, you did not fix anything.

Aneko · 09-26-2011 04:40 PM

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Originally Posted by TwoHeadedBoy

Uh, when I purchased GR, it granted me access to the Incarnate System.

It was a prerequisite. So was your computer, your Internet connection, and your CoH subscription.

'I don't like the look of it at all,' said the King: 'however, it may kiss my hand if it likes.'
'I'd rather not,' the Cat remarked.
'Don't be impertinent,' said the King, 'and don't look at me like that!' He got behind Alice as he spoke.
'A cat may look at a king,' said Alice.

TwoHeadedBoy · 09-26-2011 04:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Aneko

It was a prerequisite. So was your computer, your Internet connection, and your CoH subscription.

Ok, well I payed for that prerequisite almost exclusively because it granted me access to the Alpha slot.

Aquila_NA · 09-26-2011 04:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Golden Girl

This thread seems to have had a name change

REALLY? Is that why every post has a different "Re:" than it did this afternoon? Whoa!

CactusBrawler · 09-26-2011 04:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Aquila_NA

REALLY? Is that why every post has a different "Re:" than it did this afternoon? Whoa!

It's Golden Girl, what do you expect?

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TwoHeadedBoy · 09-26-2011 04:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Aquila_NA

REALLY? Is that why every post has a different "Re:" than it did this afternoon? Whoa!

Doesn't Golden Girl do so much to contribute to legitimate conversation?

CactusBrawler · 09-26-2011 05:00 PM

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Originally Posted by TwoHeadedBoy

Doesn't Golden Girl do so much to contribute to legitimate conversation?

It was some how more annoying when I had her on ignore, they really need to change the ignore feature so you can't see that an ignored player has posted at all.

Brawling Cactus from a distant planet.

Lucky666 · 09-26-2011 05:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Aquila_NA

REALLY? Is that why every post has a different "Re:" than it did this afternoon? Whoa!

I just lold way harder from realizing this then the actual title of the thread changing.

Aneko · 09-26-2011 05:07 PM

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Originally Posted by TwoHeadedBoy

Ok, well I payed for that prerequisite almost exclusively because it granted me access to the Alpha slot.

During part of Beta.

'I don't like the look of it at all,' said the King: 'however, it may kiss my hand if it likes.'
'I'd rather not,' the Cat remarked.
'Don't be impertinent,' said the King, 'and don't look at me like that!' He got behind Alice as he spoke.
'A cat may look at a king,' said Alice.

CactusBrawler · 09-26-2011 05:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Aneko

During part of Beta.

Would be a valid point, but they sold it to people before the beta.

Not put up for pre-order.

Sold to, for full price.

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Furio · 09-26-2011 05:15 PM

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Originally Posted by CactusBrawler

Would be a valid point, but they sold it to people before the beta.

Not put up for pre-order.

Sold to, for full price.

Which they then removed, during beta.....cuz it's a beta and things change.

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TwoHeadedBoy · 09-26-2011 05:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Aneko

During part of Beta.

lol, no. This was actually about.. 5 months ago.

CactusBrawler · 09-26-2011 05:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Furio

Which they then removed, during beta.....cuz it's a beta and things change.

Soit's aprantly okay for them to delay something they've already sold you from the sale, and you to not have actually purchased it when they return it?

Brawling Cactus from a distant planet.

TwoHeadedBoy · 09-26-2011 05:21 PM

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Originally Posted by CactusBrawler

Soit's aprantly okay for them to delay something they've already sold you from the sale, and you to not have actually purchased it when they return it?

Well, I think the point is more that Aneko is unaware that very recently, we had to buy GR in order to access the Alpha Slot. This was not during any sort of beta, this was on the live servers... The driving force behind me buying GR was so that I could work on getting alpha abilities for my first level 50 character.

Aneko · 09-26-2011 05:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Furio

Which they then removed, during beta.....cuz it's a beta and things change.

Exactly.

'I don't like the look of it at all,' said the King: 'however, it may kiss my hand if it likes.'
'I'd rather not,' the Cat remarked.
'Don't be impertinent,' said the King, 'and don't look at me like that!' He got behind Alice as he spoke.
'A cat may look at a king,' said Alice.