Discussion: New Refer a Friend program starting soon!
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Aggelakis,
Posted on: 2011-09-23 11:41 in News, Events and Announcement Discussion
Is this inactive as in not a VIP or inactive as in not signed in at all for 90 days?
it says subscription not active for 90 days, so im assuming non VIPs who havent been a VIP in the last 90 days
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Originally Posted by Necrotech_Master
it says subscription not active for 90 days, so im assuming non VIPs who havent been a VIP in the last 90 days
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They can have been playing for Free, just need to have not been VIP for 90 days.
Andy Belford
Community Manager
Paragon Studios
Glad to see something like this coming back soon. Out of curiosity, how long will the reference stay active? What I mean is:
Say I refer my friend the day this goes live, but he doesn't end up paying for VIP for another couple of months. Will this still activate, or does he have to go VIP within a certain length of time in order to make this work?
I was already starting to miss this thing! 
I guess referring them and having them buy the 15 dollar points package doesn't count huh?
Still, seems like a pretty decent deal to me.
Still hate the visit Winscott mission- make it dropable, have it give actual exp or remove it altogether. PS- Down knows who you are.
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If I bought 800 points and got the 500 points from referring a friend, do I get a reward token?
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Incredibly, highly doubtful. They are only granted from purchasing points. Freebie points aren't purchased, and thus do not count. Otherwise we'd be making a case for the 400/mo points for subbing to count, and that's definitely not going to happen.
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Originally Posted by evertheskeptic
If I bought 800 points and got the 500 points from referring a friend, do I get a reward token?
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Originally Posted by Dispari
I don't know why Dink thinks she's not as sexy as Jay was. In 5 posts she's already upstaged his entire career.
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I am glad there IS an incentive, but I will point out that it is nowhere near as great an incentive as it used to be.
Previously, if you invited back a friend who was not able to play the game at all (and was probably in withdrawal anyway) and they came back paid for a month, you each received 30 days free. So you each received $15 in value (roughly).
Now, if you convince a friend who is already playing the game for nothing, to actually spend money on a one month access to VIP-ness that they could otherwise use for upgrading their premium account instead , then you each receive... what? About $6.25 in value?
If seems like a much harder sell for significantly less benefit to me, but maybe I am missing something.
It is something, which is better than nothing, but I am certainly not Kermit-flailing over it.
My biggest question is whether you can refer an inactive account on the same master account.
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You used to be able to do that on the old refer-a-friend. In fact, my second account was started with refer-a-friend, and one time I used "invite-a-friend-back" to renew it for a short time.|
Originally Posted by CaptSammy
My biggest question is whether you can refer an inactive account on the same master account.
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Don't see why they'd change that.
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Originally Posted by Dispari
I don't know why Dink thinks she's not as sexy as Jay was. In 5 posts she's already upstaged his entire career.
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Originally Posted by Greyhawke
I am glad there IS an incentive, but I will point out that it is nowhere near as great an incentive as it used to be.
Previously, if you invited back a friend who was not able to play the game at all (and was probably in withdrawal anyway) and they came back paid for a month, you each received 30 days free. So you each received $15 in value (roughly). Now, if you convince a friend who is already playing the game for nothing, to actually spend money on a one month access to VIP-ness that they could otherwise use for upgrading their premium account instead , then you each receive... what? About $6.25 in value? If seems like a much harder sell for significantly less benefit to me, but maybe I am missing something. It is something, which is better than nothing, but I am certainly not Kermit-flailing over it. |
I'm sure you recieved 30 days equally divided among both accounts, i.e 15 days each, though I could be wrong, in which case the cost vs benefit of this is not as bad as all that.
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Originally Posted by VoodooGirl
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It was, indeed, 30 days split between the two accounts. I misread the post before or I would have pointed this out earlier.
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Originally Posted by Mega_Jamie
I'm sure you recieved 30 days equally divided among both accounts, i.e 15 days each, though I could be wrong, in which case the cost vs benefit of this is not as bad as all that.
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Originally Posted by Dispari
I don't know why Dink thinks she's not as sexy as Jay was. In 5 posts she's already upstaged his entire career.
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I'd prefer game time for referrals as well, but then consider this:|
Originally Posted by Greyhawke
I am glad there IS an incentive, but I will point out that it is nowhere near as great an incentive as it used to be.
Previously, if you invited back a friend who was not able to play the game at all (and was probably in withdrawal anyway) and they came back paid for a month, you each received 30 days free. So you each received $15 in value (roughly). Now, if you convince a friend who is already playing the game for nothing, to actually spend money on a one month access to VIP-ness that they could otherwise use for upgrading their premium account instead , then you each receive... what? About $6.25 in value? If seems like a much harder sell for significantly less benefit to me, but maybe I am missing something. It is something, which is better than nothing, but I am certainly not Kermit-flailing over it. |
in the past, the new subscriber and the referrer got 1 month's time for a total of 30 dollars. If that same system went into place now, it would be 40 dollars because each person gets the equivalent of 400pp for a month's sub too.
My suggestion is to let us buy sub-time through the paragon market, then compensate succesful referrers with 1200 points to buy it.
@Texarkana
@Thexder
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If that happened, then they could *potentially* end up screwing themselves by allowing players to use their stipend every 3 months to buy a months sub (and as a result get 400 points).|
Originally Posted by Texarkana
My suggestion is to let us buy sub-time through the paragon market, then compensate succesful referrers with 1200 points to buy it.
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Infact, the only game that i know of that allowed players to buy game time off the "ingame" market only allowed it because it had to have been paid for by another player, and the value of the gametime for ingame currency was set by the players themselves.
Now saying all of the above, if they didnt include the monthly stipend in the subscription, i could see a month sub being available on the Paragon Market.
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I don't thnk that would be an issue since you (in the past) could not refer a friend unless you yourself were subscribed. In order for someone to pull this off, they would then have to have a second actively subscribed account. And if you're paying for the 2nd account while the first count isn't subbed..... Could friends do this? Potentially. Again, I don't think it would be an issue since paragon points aren't created from an in-game currency, nor can you convert into a currency useful outside of the paragon market.
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Originally Posted by Gangrel_EU
If that happened, then they could *potentially* end up screwing themselves by allowing players to use their stipend every 3 months to buy a months sub (and as a result get 400 points).
Infact, the only game that i know of that allowed players to buy game time off the "ingame" market only allowed it because it had to have been paid for by another player, and the value of the gametime for ingame currency was set by the players themselves. Now saying all of the above, if they didnt include the monthly stipend in the subscription, i could see a month sub being available on the Paragon Market. |
@Texarkana
@Thexder
QR: No, but if gametime was indeed purchasable off the Paragon Market, then if you are subbed, you could get a free month of gametime every 3rd month (remember, you get 400 points every month just for subscribing).
And if the game time cost more than 1200 points, who would actually buy the game time off the market, as it would be cheaper to subscribe for the 30 day.
And yes, all refer a friend deals that i am aware of (for all mmo's that i can think of) require your account to be active at the time that your friend activates their account fully. So this means that if you delayed paying for your sub by a day... and your friend activated on that day (or even an hour before you resubbed...) you would miss out on your bonus.
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Duh, I see what you're saying. Totally didn't look at it like that.
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Originally Posted by Gangrel_EU
QR: No, but if gametime was indeed purchasable off the Paragon Market, then if you are subbed, you could get a free month of gametime every 3rd month (remember, you get 400 points every month just for subscribing).
And if the game time cost more than 1200 points, who would actually buy the game time off the market, as it would be cheaper to subscribe for the 30 day. And yes, all refer a friend deals that i am aware of (for all mmo's that i can think of) require your account to be active at the time that your friend activates their account fully. So this means that if you delayed paying for your sub by a day... and your friend activated on that day (or even an hour before you resubbed...) you would miss out on your bonus. |
@Texarkana
@Thexder
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Actually, i just did this with an alt account a couple of months ago. I just went to check the re-invite email which said:|
Originally Posted by Mega_Jamie
I'm sure you recieved 30 days equally divided among both accounts, i.e 15 days each, though I could be wrong, in which case the cost vs benefit of this is not as bad as all that.
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| Your friend, ********, has sent you a Reactivation Credit Serial Code. If you decide to reactivate your City of Heroes or City of Villains account, you will split 60 days of FREE game time! |
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It's still $30. $30 gets you all subscriber benefits for two months, including the 800PP (or 1100PP), reward tokens, server transfers, etc. You can't count their costs on top of that, since you don't pay extra for them.|
Originally Posted by Texarkana
in the past, the new subscriber and the referrer got 1 month's time for a total of 30 dollars. If that same system went into place now, it would be 40 dollars because each person gets the equivalent of 400pp for a month's sub too.
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As for how much they're giving, all they do is provide an incentive to stay VIP and go VIP. It may have less monetary value than before, but it's not necessary less of an incentive than before.
That they give it only when your friend goes VIP and not for buying points on the market could mean that what some people said before is true: the hope is for Freedom to bring in more subscribers, not that Premium players will bring in the money. This is IMO a mistake for a "free to play" model. On the other hand it could be that this was done simply because it's easier to achieve technically.
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I was just reading in the extra 400pp as potential lost revenue if a non-sub was intending to purchase and spend it, thus the double-dip, but I see your point.
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Originally Posted by General_CoH
It's still $30. $30 gets you all subscriber benefits for two months, including the 800PP (or 1100PP), reward tokens, server transfers, etc. You can't count their costs on top of that, since you don't pay extra for them.
As for how much they're giving, all they do is provide an incentive to stay VIP and go VIP. It may have less monetary value than before, but it's not necessary less of an incentive than before. That they give it only when your friend goes VIP and not for buying points on the market could mean that what some people said before is true: the hope is for Freedom to bring in more subscribers, not that Premium players will bring in the money. This is IMO a mistake for a "free to play" model. On the other hand it could be that this was done simply because it's easier to achieve technically. |
@Texarkana
@Thexder
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Sounds good. Was just going to refer them the old way. I've been very impressed with changes in i21 and feel its different enough to hassle friends who have tried it before to look again.|
Originally Posted by Avatea
How to Refer a Friend from the NCsoft website |
To be a little snarky though you missed a few steps
- Verify your account from your normal computer again by answering the so called secret security questions.
- Agree yet again to include this computer in the remember list
I don't suffer from altitis, I enjoy every minute of it.
Thank you Devs & Community people for a great game.
So sad to be ending ):
LOL. So true.
Anyone knows if they activated it ? Someone told me that he saw the "refer a friend" button on the account page, but I havent read anything from them on that matter.
Just curious if this is active yet as well. I figured it was since I saw it on the main page and decided to send a code off to a friend. When they try to use the code they keep getting an error message...
"You can't use the supplied serial code.
The supplied serial code is valid, but it can not be used to create a new account and it can not be applied to any accounts you already have."
They are on an old trial account and really want to sub to the game but they want to take advantage of the free Paragon Points to get a couple of goodies.
My friend is getting more that just a little upset about this. They sent in a ticket about this to support, but that was almost a week ago and they haven't heard anything back. It's not instilling any kind of confidence in the game with them.
I admit I want MY free points too, or I wouldn't have sent off the code. But if it hasn't started yet, that might just explain things.
I just wonder why codes can be sent out if it isn't active yet. Some clarification would be nice.
If the Refer a Friend program hasn't actually started yet, I think they should remove the link from the main page and not allow codes to be sent until the program is actually active.
Losing faith in humanity, one person at a time.
VIP Players will soon be able to refer a new player or a former player whose subscription has been inactive for at least 90 days! Once the updated Refer a Friend program is live, if your friend decides to become a VIP Player and pays for at least a one-month subscription to City of Heroes Freedom™, you and the friend you refer will each get 500 Paragon Points™ automatically for free! VIP Players will be able to refer friends from the NCsoft Master Account website, or from the Paragon Market™ in game!
How to Refer a Friend from the NCsoft website
How to to Refer a Friend from the Paragon Market
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