Quick MARTy testing on Live - I haven't triggered it yet
Have you tried it with a lowbie in the mish? Thanks for testing Nihilli.
I haven't tested it with a lowbie personally, but it seems someone else did, and didn't run into MARTy.
What map did you use?
How many kills did you get? 4 minutes sounds like its likely too slow
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I really think most folks overreacted on this. Standard issue farming is probably going to be fine.
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I don't want to say I would be dissapointed if they didn't overreact, but I would be shocked.
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Originally Posted by EvilGeko
I really think most folks overreacted on this. Standard issue farming is probably going to be fine.
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Considering the parameters Zwill gave as a benchmark for what sets MARTy off, I was pretty surprised when people lost their nuts over it.
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Originally Posted by EvilGeko
I really think most folks overreacted on this. Standard issue farming is probably going to be fine.
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Well, i know i ran into it on beta. Ill have to take a look when i get on live later today.
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Mission is irrelevant, unless one uses a weird one with less spawns. Standard ambush farm => 8 Hard spawns (2 initial spawns + 6 ambushes, capped by AE).
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Originally Posted by EvilGeko
I really think most folks overreacted on this.
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I don't mind being wrong. I was just annoyed that there was no testing to verify MARTy was implemented correcty. It's not that I don't trust the devs but I've been around long enough to know that any new mechanic introduced can and usualy does have a few bugs that need to be tweaked. |
Originally Posted by Aneko
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Feel free to gloat. It doesn't bother me.
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Originally Posted by Clouded
Feel free to gloat. It doesn't bother me.
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I think its far too early to definitively say whether or not MARTy is working.
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Originally Posted by EvilGeko
I really think most folks overreacted on this. Standard issue farming is probably going to be fine.
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Agreed. MARTy seems set up to curb and identify behaviour like the "Mastermind Pets 1 shotting AVs", Comms Farms and Munkie farms more quickly than they have done in the past and act like a "band aid" on them until a proper fix can be implemented to close the exploit.
I am disappoint. Seems like they need to tweak MARTy a bit. AE farming still works.
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Yeah they tweaked it yesterday to ALLOW that.|
Originally Posted by FredrikSvanberg
I am disappoint. Seems like they need to tweak MARTy a bit. AE farming still works.
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In BETA it wasn't allowing people to farm. Which is, you know, the main thing people use AE for.
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The problem was Zwill gave a complete BS (as in impossible without a hack or a dev tool) parameter and people had been demonstrating that it was possible to set it off with something significantly lower than those benchmarks.
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Originally Posted by Nalrok_AthZim
Considering the parameters Zwill gave as a benchmark for what sets MARTy off, I was pretty surprised when people lost their nuts over it.
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This basically sums up my feelings on the matter.
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Originally Posted by Clouded
I don't mind being wrong. I was just annoyed that there was no testing to verify MARTy was implemented correcty. It's not that I don't trust the devs but I've been around long enough to know that any new mechanic introduced can and usualy does have a few bugs that need to be tweaked.
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Why is that a BS reason? Dont forget that f2p people have little to nothing to loose if they get caught cheating. Since there is no 'true anticheat' software, monitoring reward on such level is a very good idea.|
Originally Posted by Hyperstrike
The problem was Zwill gave a complete BS (as in impossible without a hack or a dev tool) parameter and people had been demonstrating that it was possible to set it off with something significantly lower than those benchmarks.
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That there are a few sods that seem to trigger it (the one from the MARTy post was false), majority of people never will get into troubles, even some very fast 54/8 farmers i've seen (duo or tripple setup).
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Funny, I thought we used it to create our own arcs and run RP missions.
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Originally Posted by Xanatos
Which is, you know, the main thing people use AE for.
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Apparently you're not people.
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Originally Posted by SpyralPegacyon
Funny, I thought we used it to create our own arcs and run RP missions.
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Funny how what you think isn't always the same as what other people think right?|
Originally Posted by SpyralPegacyon
Funny, I thought we used it to create our own arcs and run RP missions.
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I mean, obviously, the game should be played the way I think it should be played, right?
Doesn't that mean you're wrong?
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Right backatcha.|
Originally Posted by Gospel_NA
Funny how what you think isn't always the same as what other people think right?
I mean, obviously, the game should be played the way I think it should be played, right? Doesn't that mean you're wrong? |
EDIT: I've used CEBR out of curiousity and thought it was a nifty way to get a claws/elec to a high level without adding to inf inflation. That said, by and large, I use AE for RP missions with my SGs. We're players just as much as you are, we get a seat at the table too.
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That, Sir, was exactly the point.|
Originally Posted by SpyralPegacyon
Right backatcha.
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As for RP Arcs, I don't see any less of them, because farms exist. I don't see any farmers stating they want to see less RP in AE or in any way stating that AE can't be used the way you're proposing should be the only way it is used.
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My only problem with farming is with inf inflation, I have no problem with power-leveling or ticket farming. Heck, I did both myself. To each our own.|
Originally Posted by Gospel_NA
That, Sir, was exactly the point.
As for RP Arcs, I don't see any less of them, because farms exist. I don't see any farmers stating they want to see less RP in AE or in any way stating that AE can't be used the way you're proposing should be the only way it is used. |
That said, this was what I had a problem with:
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Originally Posted by Xanatos
In BETA it wasn't allowing people to farm. Which is, you know, the main thing people use AE for.
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Specifics:
SS/Fire/Soul brute, solo
+4/x8/bosses ambush farm
Approximately 4 minutes completion time (punching the first mob to death of the final mob)
Done it twice