Concerns about the new EULA

I wasn't being totally serious - again

Welcome to city of heroes forums. If you are not blinded by fandom, get out.

Being a fan has nothing to do with being able to tell genuine concern from gibbering insanity

That's why most people ignore you.

Exactly - gibbering insanity can cause people to do that

So they tricked us into signing it? Is there no end to their evil?

heh, for angst, in Bystander, the main character is bisexual who passes herself off as a reckless, promiscuous party girl type

the people I plan for her to actually fall for over the course of the books, tend to be individuals that aren't sexually attracted to women

I would hope someone noticed that I didn't frame this in any of those things terms. Not that I think you said did. The closest real-world comparison I made for this was website tracking, which is still a step removed from the EULA, since it assumes NCSoft might use the freedoms granted by the EULA to collect non-game-centric info about their users from their PCs.

Despite my position being pretty much what I've quoted you describing, FFM accused me of having a tinfoil hat on over my position. Anyone described wearing a tinfoil hat is being described as a nutcase. The inference I find clear from him is that even someone with an otherwise moderate position on this issue who doesn't ignore the issue entirely is a nutcase. That's what I think that is disgusting, and pretty ignorant to boot. "I don't agree with you so you must be insane" is a nice twist on ad homenim.

Wouldn't it be more useful to have it over your head?

Do you distrust people you walk by on the street? Like actively look at them and wonder if they're out to steal your money or kill you?

No? I hope you don't.

Even though you hopefully don't distrust people, do you carry your money in a wallet, possibly with no cash at all? Or do you carry it all as cash while sticking it, unfolded, so that just one of the short edges is tucked into the middle back of your pants behind the belt so that you have like a horse tail of 20 dollar bills above your butt? No? Why not? If you answer, please assume the dollar bills won't just fall out when you sit down. Base the answer on the intended area of focus - how easy we make it for people to do things we don't want them to do.

Having trust and having blind faith are a matter of degrees. If we let people do things, then eventually someone will do them. I'm well aware that as customers, in practice, we may have no voice over all this other than to walk away. As I've said elsewhere in this thread, I would much rather not walk away - I like it here. I would prefer NCSoft to present terms that let them do what they need to do and don't make me want to walk away.

Actually, if they are operating under it without me agreing to it?

Ilegal and uneforcebable.

Can't prove I 'signed' it?


Ilegal and uneforcebable.

This sounds like a job for Class Action Lawsuit Man

I do - I have to travel by night across the rooftops to avoid seeing other people who will be plotting to rob and kill me.

note to self: search "Golden Girl" for instances of amusing insanity...good dialogue fodder

I believe that Nighcrawler is also a furry, just really short haired. Which would mean the Xtra-hairy segment would have to include him.

A Wolverine/Beast/Nightcrawler love triangle? I could totally see that working

Nope, Nightcrawler is a Mexican Hairless if we're talking furry breeds here. He's got Mystique's blue skin, but not blue fur.

And you guys are all blind if you can't see the prevailing the Thing/Wolverine cross promotional guy love.

I know you guys were all waiting for this very vital piece of information: I believe Santino's unibrow is real, but he exaggerates it with make up/a fake brow.

I thought that Thing/Doom was the current pairing?

Newsflash. The moment you click past it and login you have consented to it. Your only option if you don't want to sign it is to not login.

That's old school. It's Doom/Black Panther now.

Everyone knows that's Xavier. He used to make up pet names for him and everything.

Or use a fake name to make a new Premium account and always remember to wear fake glasses and a mustache when you log in.

It's the only way to be sure.

Almost as hot as Parker/Jameson