Concerns about the new EULA

The EULA lets them do it because it requires you to grant to them an unlimited non-exclusive license to use any creative work you create in the game, not because they own it. At least in the US, copyright ownership cannot be transferred that way, and the exception clause is triggered in that case.

As to the legal theory that the EULA is "unenforceable" in most Western countries the EULA is quite enforceable in two ways. First, most of the terms of the EULA spell out grounds for termination, and without the EULA you'd be terminated anyway. The notion that if the EULA was "illegal" means you can do whatever you want is something a lot of people seem to believe, and is false. Without the EULA, you have *no* contract to use the service, and attempting to use it when you yourself *believe* the EULA is illegal would be unauthorized use of the service. You don't get to substitute the EULA for one you make up.

Second, separate from the EULA NCSoft can terminate your access to the service under the same grounds any business can choose not to do business with you, so if you challenge the EULA win or lose NCSoft could still terminate your access and be done with you.

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No.

Wolverine has two Fetishes

1; He loves them red heads.

2; He loves them teenage girls.

I prefer Wolverine/Nightcrawler - but I leave things like Wolverine/Beast to the ones who like their man-love to be Xtra-hairy

The fundamental difference is that if someone tries to rob a bank and use that as the excuse, they've committed a federal crime that would be prosecuted by the government. When someone says "I didn't know NCSoft could terminate my account for that reason" and sues, NCSoft has to defend itself at its own cost. Especially with all the armchair lawyers out there with interesting legal theories and lawyers wishing to test the limits of the law.

Adding specific language to the EULA increases the odds of getting a dismissal very early in the legal process rather than having to argue the finer points of the law in an actual tort trial.

Sure he does

Statesman got married, but he's still in love with Jim Temblor.

OI! STOP THAT AT ONCE!

Never - the slash needs to be free

Bye! Can I have your stuff?

"You got to dig it to dig it, you dig?"
Thelonious Monk

Arcanaville, can't you see this thread has moved on to more important topics? Namely who Wolverine secretly guy-loves?

I think he'd be invovled with a lot of guys - he seems like that type.

OMG!!! It is true...now we are bound to the game forever!!! It is like to be married without the option to divorce

Like Statesman and Recluse?

Yeah, because anyone who worries about erosion of their privacy is a conspiracy theorist. Clearly if you care at all, you're some sort of nut.

It disgusts me that people act like this.

For some reason, I still feel that the best thing to come out of professional wrestling is the Spoony One's Wrestle Wrestle (now seemingly discontinued, sadly). Ah, good times

Originally Posted by Arcanaville Samuel_Tow is the only poster that makes me want to punch him in the head more often when I'm agreeing with him than when I'm disagreeing with him.

You need to be more tolerant - Wolverine/Beast is hairy man-love, but it's still love.

As with anything there's a fine line to be walked between defending our right to privacy and what is required to make use of any given service. If you want to remain totally anonymous and keep all of your personal information totally private then it's arguably doable but you have to make a lot of trade-offs to do it.

More importantly, it's essential to focus on those things are really are an egregious erosion of personal privacy (warrant-less wiretapping, the removal of the right to anonymity online -which they've recently done in South Korea - and soforth) and not to get caught up in things that are relatively minor and completely optional lest you weaken your position.

Yes, it would be nice if NCSoft (and others) didn't feel the need to put such broad statements into their EULAs in an attempt to prevent cheating, protect themselves from legal action and, quite probably, obtain demographic information to sell to advertisers, but they do. While I agree that it's something that probably should be raised with NCSoft in an attempt to get the terms clarified and/or narrowed, it's not something that should be framed in the same terms as civil rights abuses, government spying on their citizens or bodies such as the RIAA trawling for the personal details of thousands of people on the off chance that a couple of them downloaded music off the internet without paying them for it.

Well, for me, I'm not into that sort of thing.

Now allow me to go squee over sappy Nanoha x Fate pictures in an entirely non-hypocritical way

What disgusts me is people that fill out a gym membership and appologize that they can't remember their SSN and ask "Is it ok if I bring it next time?", but get angry and indignant when they reach the box asking for their E-mail.

Or people who will give up their credit card info and their name, street address, and e-mail getting all puffed up about how they cant trust the company they gave that information, when it comes to accessing information on their computer.

My advice (not legal advice, just general everyday friendly advice) If you don't trust them, don't give them your information, don't download programs made by them, and don't agree to their terms of use.

That comes with the cost of not using their product, but it's a small cost if you can't trust them.

All slash pairings are of equal worth - Tyrant/Calvin isn't any less or more valuable than Swan/Fusionette.

I wish I could say for sure.

true was mostly making a self-mocking joke

I like non-traditional relationships, though I have to admit I veer strongly over toward yuri

You get my jokes. It's like we're the same person. Come and be with me in moonlight of this thread.

Moonlight + monobrow = werewolf, so I'll have to decline your offer

I like all kinds - although boy-on-boy is usually more angsty, so it gets extra hotness points

Um. You seem to be under the impression that this avatar is what I actually look like. That's just absurd.