Avengers photos

I heartily disagree. The gloves being properly red and the lack of miscoloured straps alone is a vast improvement. The only thing I see as better about the WWII outfit is that it's more properly white between the shoulders and the gloves, and that the chin strap possibly accentuates the heroic facial profile enough to keep the headpiece from diminishing said profile (as it seems to do a bit in the modern outfit).

I really like the 1st, but see the need for the updated 2nd pic; I just hope it looks better in the movie like some are posting. Plus, the top pic looks like hes the man, the bottom...his facial/body expression exudes, "DERP!"

Yeah, seems I remember him using a superdope/hi-tech bow sometimes in the comics...what can ya do? And for some reason, this is not the dude Id imagine playing Hawk since he doesn't have superhuman powers other than:

1) peak physical conditioning
2) being an exceptional fencer, acrobat and a grandmaster marksman, having been trained from childhood
3) been thoroughly trained in tactics, martial arts, and hand-to-hand combat

Im not hating, but the actor playing him doesn't fit that look in my minds eye. I like his acting in other pictures, but he has that very salt of the earth look about him...kind of like the guy that picks up my garbage twice a week.

I agree. It's not a matter accurately recreating a comic book design that was limited by the printing process and production time deadlines. It's a matter of something that doesn't make you look like a total prat. And the second costume completely fails in that respect.

Much better, yes.

Wholeheartedly yes. Jeremy Renner is a hottie. Plus he's a local boy ta boot. (at least for me)

That's not exactly what I was thinking, but I am curious who his personal assistant is and if her job description requires her to fit under the steering wheel.

Maybe we grew up with a different Hawkeye, but I think Jeremy Renner fits perfectly. Heck even the Ultimates version has a bit of a gritty past.

"I reject your reality and replace it with my own..."

If your metric is how accurately they're recreating the comic book character, then yes. If your metric is not looking like a *********, then no.

I still haven't seen the Cap movie, except for a few scenes, but it looks like in the first pic he's about to jump into action and is in a manly "ready for action" pose. In the second, he's just standing there, so I'm taking that into account and hope that it does translate better on film, post-production.

My "metric" involves a bit of both. I don't generally like brown in clothing or superhero costumes. It tends to be ugly (sometimes ugly is appropriate), and looks out of place alongside the blue and white on the WWII outfit. The straps on that outfit would be great if the grey bits were blue - even if that blue were darker than the top. As it is, they're an eyesore.

The design of the modern costume is basically very similar to the WWII outfit. It has the same fold over jacket and collar. It has the same middle-torso bit with obvious ballistic insert pockets (and spaces in between said inserts for flexibility), but since there are no straps the red stripes are integrated into the design. The shoulder pieces are slightly different, and the bit between the shoulder is changed (for the worse, as I noted). The pants are basically the same pants, with the same leg pockets and everything. The cloth (on jacket and pants) appears to be a different quality, but that's because the old cloth looked to have an old style ripstop weave where the weave pattern is very apparent (the quilted-looking diamond pattern texture) - newer ripstop weaves can look as smooth as regular cloth (I love my 100% cotton ripstop BDUs - durable and practical).

The hard part of the helmet/mask piece on both costumes is practically identical. The new costume changes the soft bit to a full blue coif of sorts, which would be okay except (as I previously noted) the hard cap diminishes the chin/jawline of Evans. Hence why I said that the old outfit is superior (despite not being wholly accurate to the modern costume) in that it accentuates his chin/jawline with the chinstrap.

Style-wise, the gloves on the modern costume could easily be an evolution of the old costume's gloves made with modern, lighter weight yet more durable materials. I like them better simply because they're red rather than ugly, ugly brown. If I was wholly concerned with accuracy, I would complain that they should be plain red leather gloves with folded cuffs. If they were still using the old glove design (which I would personally love to have in black) in a decent red, I'd be just as happy with them though they'd be a bit anachronistic.

Whoa whoa whoa...was just my minds eye impression

Gritty wasnt really the concept I was getting at...for me, Renner simply looks more like the average guy Id bump into at the local pub. Again for me (thats the qualifier lol), he doesn't fit how I would imagine a world class athlete to look. I mean I don't work out much and am built like Renner, but I know Im also in nowhere near peak physical conditioning by any stretch.

Not everyone can look like the guy playing Cap America/Johnny Storm, but we do need variety I suppose and if he can act the part, Im sold.

I hope so as well and expect it to...was just sayin.

I think Captain America is part of the reason they wouldn't want a real Athlete looking guy for Hawkeye, cause Cap is supposed to be a super soldier, so you can't have some random Joe with a bow be as buff as him.

I agree to an extent Oath. It is what it is and believe me, Im not some crazy "he/she HAS to look this/that way cuz thats the way it is in the comics/novels" kind of guy. Even though if you take a look at comics, like 95% of the heroes/villains look like CPT America...a bunch of super soldiers and supermodels. There are exceptions like Wolverine whos like 3ft4, but hes still built like a midget super soldier.

Count me as in your camp, Troy. I didn't mind the reimagined X-Men in the leathers back in 2001, as they were being covert and it made sense to give protection to all your team.

These days, everyone has to be in the uber-functional padded leather. *sigh* Spider-Man...heck, even the Hulk were welcome changes to that format. I do think though we're sort of in the 'art deco' era of movie comic books. Over-stylised, over-designed costumes. Maybe they're over-thinking these movies a bit much...but this is Hollywood.....


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Just a little nit-pick, but Wolvie is 5'3"


That is all, carry on.

Of course a lot of artists seem to draw him looking 6'1.

Definitely alot more frequently since the first X-men movie.

Superheroes are our modern day god myths, a continuation of the stories of the ancient Greeks and Norse and Celts and what have you. Their our Zeus' and Osiris' and Odins (and Thors, ba dum bum pssh!). They're what we aspire to be, beautiful in body and spirit and power. So naturally they look like supermodel Olympic athletes (unless looking otherwise is part of their schtick).

lol...it was a purposeful exaggeration focused on him being short. I didnt actually mean he was 3'4; sorry to force your inner geek to step forward