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Damage will fix it

Aett_Thorn

By Aett_Thorn,
Posted on: 2011-08-23 06:05 in Archetypes and Powers General Discussion

 

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Originally Posted by Nightchill_EU View Post
Any descent SS brute runs steady +350% (or 450% if you rather count that way) with 2 rage and fury. When Fulcrum Shift hit she jumps way beyond Scrapper's damage cap.
And a non-SS Brute (yes, they do exist) runs a lot lower. SS Brutes who aren't built for heavy recharge are only running single Rage so those are also lower. If you only have one /Kin who isn't running high enough recharge to have triple FS then a lot of Brutes are somewhat below Scrapper damage on teams.

I guess you could look at just highly optimized top end builds, in which case you can probably assume SS on a Brute since high recharge Foot Stomp pretty much blows every other Brute AoE away (though Fire may have an edge on single targets). But if you start assuming only SS or Fire Brutes, only Fire Blasters, only /Sonic or /Dark Defenders, etc... then you are no longer comparing ATs at all. You're just comparing specific builds and teams, and for that you need to really define the goal since what you actually want in a highly optimized team varies tremendously depending on whether you are steamrolling radio missions, running ITFs, doing iTrials, going for MoSTF badges, or whatever. If you want to compare ATs in general you have to take into account all of those Ice/Devices Blasters, DB/Stone Brutes, Storm/Energy Defenders, Stalkers, and other oddball builds.

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Originally Posted by MrEian View Post
4.)Tanks can be damage dealers, my hero farmer is a tank. Fire/SS when you solo farm a tanks higher base dmg +rage will do more DPS than a Brute with rage and fury without a kin or outside buffs.
And if you are farming on a SS/fire brute then you are at least using inspirs to damage cap yourself. So much so, Rage is often not even used so the crash is avoided.

 

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Originally Posted by Nightchill_EU View Post
I have more than 10 50ies, list doesnt matters to you I think.
I've got one lvl50 and I still know you're full of crap.

 

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Originally Posted by GavinRuneblade View Post
So is there a change to the mechanics on the test server that will let stalkers take out pylons in less than a minute? Because I really would be surprised to see that. Pleased also, but surprised.
No, not the actual numbers, just the ratings system they use to lie to new players about the ATs. Like telling them a controller is a pet class.

 

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Originally Posted by rsclark View Post
No, not the actual numbers, just the ratings system they use to lie to new players about the ATs. Like telling them a controller is a pet class.
The rating system is accurate for Khelds, though - everything is "?" which indicates that they have no idea what they're supposed to do.

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No, not the actual numbers, just the ratings system they use to lie to new players about the ATs. Like telling them a controller is a pet class.
All of them get a pet besides Mind, so I would qualify them as a pet class. I believe doms are included as well, so do you have issues with just controllers being added then?

 

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Originally Posted by Siolfir View Post
The rating system is accurate for Khelds, though - everything is "?" which indicates that they have no idea what they're supposed to do.
*Gives Siolfir cookies*

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Originally Posted by MrEian View Post
4.)Tanks can be damage dealers, my hero farmer is a tank. Fire/SS when you solo farm a tanks higher base dmg +rage will do more DPS than a Brute with rage and fury without a kin or outside buffs.
No it won't. Even perma stacked Rage on the Tank won't out DPS a perma Rage Brute and that's for ST damage where they'll have the full effect of Bruising.

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So many levels of wrong inside this thread..

"Of all sad words of tongue or pen, the saddest are these. It might have been."

 

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The next person that tells me "Blasters are the lowest DPS AT in the game" is getting shot.


That is all.

 

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You do no damage while you're eating floor.

 

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This is getting abit too spammy (and I must admit trollish and idiotic, yes somehow even more than the original post) to answer properly with the limited amount of time I have these days.

Siolfir and Kitsune Knight do make descent points tho, even if I dont agree with some. I'd like to keep discussing but I'd better not feed this floodfest.