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Ridley Scott Onboard with New Blade Runner Film

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Posted on: 2011-08-18 10:37 in Comic and Hero-Villain Culture

 

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I just hope this one's good. >.>

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I just hope this one is as good as the first one
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The writer for Deadline's original exclusive doesn't make this sound promising:

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I’m not getting a clear sense at this point whether Scott intends to do a sequel or a prequel to the 1982 film that was loosely based on the Philip K. Dick novel Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep? Also unclear is whether they start fresh or reach out to Harrison Ford.{...}

This is just the first step and the project will have to be written and it will likely evolve during that process. That's what happened on Alien, which began as a prequel to his 1979 classic.
Besides his much-revised Prometheus science fiction film, Scott's attached to produce eight different film and TV projects in the next couple of years - and the guys Alcon Entertainment sound like bozos - so who knows what twists and turns development for this project will take.

 

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Russell Crowe will be in both of them.

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I guess it was about time for that classic to get molested by a remake too.

At least Scott's involved so there's a chance it'll be worthwhile. Obviously modern CGI should make it look wonderful, but they can still easily mess up the casting, story or just about anything else related to it.

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I just hope this one's good. >.>
I won't say the first movie isn't good, but I've never been able to sit through it the whole way without losing interest, or falling asleep. The only film that perplexes me more in this respect is 2001. I don't think I've ever made it past the 30 minute mark of 2001.

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I won't say the first movie isn't good, but I've never been able to sit through it the whole way without losing interest, or falling asleep. The only film that perplexes me more in this respect is 2001. I don't think I've ever made it past the 30 minute mark of 2001.
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I don't think I've ever made it past the 30 minute mark of 2001.
You are aware that 2001 is over, right? You successfully made it past 2001 a decade or so ago.






 

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I won't say the first movie isn't good, but I've never been able to sit through it the whole way without losing interest, or falling asleep.
Blade Runner's pacing is far from perfect, especially given its multiple rewrites in adapting PKD's loosely structured, intellectually overstuffed novel.

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The only film that perplexes me more in this respect is 2001.
Just read Clarke's novel - it's fairly straightforward science fiction. Kubrick's breakthrough was to remove all its exposition and slow down the narrative (he used this strategy this again with his adaptation of Stephen King's The Shining).

 

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I won't say the first movie isn't good, but I've never been able to sit through it the whole way without losing interest, or falling asleep. The only film that perplexes me more in this respect is 2001. I don't think I've ever made it past the 30 minute mark of 2001.
Blasmephy! I love both these movies for the classics that they are but even I'll admit I sort of have to be "in the mood" to watch them because they do take some added effort to pay attention to them.

I think it's pretty safe to say that a remake of Blade Runner made today in our reality based, post-MTV world will most likely be much faster paced than the original. Hopefully it will be faster paced -AND- worth watching at the same time.

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Blade Runner is one of the most overhyped movies in the entirety of mankind. It is horribly boring and slow. I could only watch it for about 10 minutes at a time before going, "Done". I've seen paint dry that was more interesting than watching Blade Runner.

A new one could not possibly be any worse than the original.


 

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I love the original theatrical release of Blade Runner! It's the Director's Cut that is suckie

As for a remake, I was actually wondering when they would get around to it.

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I thought Ridley Scott was going to do an Aliens prequel...


I'm glad Ridley is doing something Sci Fi.

 

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I thought Ridley Scott was going to do an Aliens prequel...


I'm glad Ridley is doing something Sci Fi.
He's supposed to do both, apparently. I just heard about the Blade Runner thing, but the Aliens prequel was something I heard he was committed to at least a month ago.

There's a synopsis floating around about the Aliens prequel, Prometheus, that revolves around the large being in the spaceship from the first film.

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I'm fairly sure the Alien Prequel/Sequel was scrapped, and that they're doing a new film instead. I loved Blade Runner, and I loved "Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep". Both are truly iconic films in the Science Fiction genre, and their influence is immeasurable.

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I won't say the first movie isn't good, but I've never been able to sit through it the whole way without losing interest, or falling asleep. The only film that perplexes me more in this respect is 2001. I don't think I've ever made it past the 30 minute mark of 2001.
Random crazy thought here just popped into my head as I read your reply; why not cross hypnotoad with HAL? Dunno why, but its just there for some reason.


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I can totally live with a sequel/prequel so long as they get the art design right (Blade Runner has massively influenced my love of Sci-Fi) but a film this iconic does NOT need a remake.

 

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Blade Runner is one of the most overhyped movies in the entirety of mankind. It is horribly boring and slow. I could only watch it for about 10 minutes at a time before going, "Done". I've seen paint dry that was more interesting than watching Blade Runner.

A new one could not possibly be any worse than the original.
As I agreed Blade Runner is not the fastest-paced movie in the world. But I'll have to simply disagree with you by saying a Blade Runner remake could VERY EASILY be worse than the original.

To put its iconic importance into perspective consider this: Even though you don't like it we are still discussing a sci-fi movie that's now almost 30 years old. How many other 30 year old movies do you typically think about good-or-bad in a given day? You may not have liked it, but you really can't dismiss it.

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I can totally live with a sequel/prequel so long as they get the art design right (Blade Runner has massively influenced my love of Sci-Fi) but a film this iconic does NOT need a remake.
No, it really doesn't. They could easily be making futuristic dystopian film "inspired" by Blade Runner and have it look really cool with 2011 era CGI and that could be great. But a direct remake of the 1982 film? No, that isn't really necessary.

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I never liked Blade Runner. I tried one of the many iterations after the theatrical release (Blade Runner: The Final Extended Unrated Director's Cut 2: This Time We Mean It), but found it to be no improvement.

Most of that is because it is such terrible, terrible science fiction. That stuff just bugged me then and it bugs me now. I could excuse it if it were silly sci-fi like Star Trek or Star Wars, but it's supposed to be serious science fiction, so it needs to be done up right. Plus, plot points hinge on impossible things like the holographic photo. Holographs are cool, but the camera can't see around corners.

It's also clear that style was uppermost in Scott's mind. Even Joanna Cassidy once made fun of it, saying that it was silly that during a headlong escape from an executioner her character would stop to put on a clear raincoat and do her hair. Annoying.

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Most of that is because it is such terrible, terrible science fiction. That stuff just bugged me then and it bugs me now. I could excuse it if it were silly sci-fi like Star Trek or Star Wars, but it's supposed to be serious science fiction, so it needs to be done up right. Plus, plot points hinge on impossible things like the holographic photo. Holographs are cool, but the camera can't see around corners.
The photo's aren't meant to be holographic, it is the computer doing the seeing round corners. what on earth made you think it was the photo that was doing all that and not the computer he fed it in to?

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It's also clear that style was uppermost in Scott's mind. Even Joanna Cassidy once made fun of it, saying that it was silly that during a headlong escape from an executioner her character would stop to put on a clear raincoat and do her hair. Annoying.
Not really, easier to blend in if you don't look like your fleeing, also she does all of that before she runs, not giving away that she has twigged who he really is till the last moment.

If you want stupid, why does an assassination model enhanced android not just crush his wind pipe then run off, why bother to strangle him with a tie.

 

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They could easily be making futuristic dystopian film "inspired" by Blade Runner and have it look really cool with 2011 era CGI and that could be great.
Honestly, why is there any reason to imagine that the current CGI would look any better than the models from 1982? The iconic opening shot of the future Los Angeles's landscape, the advertising dirigible, and the police spinners flying past skyscrapers - all done with models - would hardly be improved by getting the "Avatar" treatment. Scott has done his best work with practical effects, so

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But a direct remake of the 1982 film? No, that isn't really necessary.
There are plenty of elements of Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep? that never made it into Blade Runner's adaptation but that Scott could incorporate into a new film, such as android infiltration of the police force or the sinister demagoguery of the Buster Friendly and His Friendly Friends TV show. (And while "Blade Runner" is a great title, it's something that appealed to William S. Burroughs's sensibilities and has nothing to do with PKD.)

 

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I never liked Blade Runner. I tried one of the many iterations after the theatrical release (Blade Runner: The Final Extended Unrated Director's Cut 2: This Time We Mean It), but found it to be no improvement.

Most of that is because it is such terrible, terrible science fiction. That stuff just bugged me then and it bugs me now. I could excuse it if it were silly sci-fi like Star Trek or Star Wars, but it's supposed to be serious science fiction, so it needs to be done up right. Plus, plot points hinge on impossible things like the holographic photo. Holographs are cool, but the camera can't see around corners.
Well good or bad we are talking about science FICTION here. There are always elements in the genre that are effectively "impossible" in real life. Getting too hung up on details like this is a little disingenuous. At least the image processing technology we saw in Blade Runner is now a tiny bit more "realistic" than light sabers and warp drive.

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It's also clear that style was uppermost in Scott's mind. Even Joanna Cassidy once made fun of it, saying that it was silly that during a headlong escape from an executioner her character would stop to put on a clear raincoat and do her hair. Annoying.
The replicants were mentally very childlike. They stressed that point in many ways throughout the story. While you and I might think it'd be kind of silly to put on a clear raincoat and do our hair while trying to get away from someone trying to kill us a child might react weirdly like that. Beyond that I rarely put much stock in actors poking fun at their own characters/performances. Even Sir Alec Guinness absolutely regretted is involvement in Star Wars.

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There are plenty of elements of Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep? that never made it into Blade Runner's adaptation but that Scott could incorporate into a new film, such as android infiltration of the police force or the sinister demagoguery of the Buster Friendly and His Friendly Friends TV show. (And while "Blade Runner" is a great title, it's something that appealed to William S. Burroughs's sensibilities and has nothing to do with PKD.)
For good reasons, the novel was a mess trying to explore them all as would a film, for me PKD was at his best when doing short stories that focused on one idea at a time, Is why they tend to make better movies.