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I would not be surprised if the Rednames assumed that with BaB being a trainer that it would be "obvious" that he's not a Phalanxer. Only associates are trainers.
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Hmmm

I guess they need to go and Retcon the RSF. Two missions, defeat the Future Freedom Phalanx BAB is there. The final mission is Defeat Statesman and the Freedom Phalanx. For the final mission, it is implied. For the other mission, it's pretty clear that he's in, in the Future.

Based on the title of the last mission, it is easy to assume that BAB is in and States is not.

Better get Aeon to work writing.

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I thought all of the Surviving Eight that weren't Phalanx members got invited to the Phalanx after the Rikti War. I don't know why I thought that, but I thought it was part of the lore somewhere.

Personally, I think BAB should be a member of the Phalanx. It's not much of a retcon if everyone thought he was anyway, and if you don't want to retcon it, have him officially invited after the events of Issue 21 and the destruction of Galaxy City, which force him to come out of retirement.

But I say retcon it. It was retconned anyway in CoV with the stated missions, and nobody complained, so why not just accept it?


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A mistake made repeatedly without contradiction for five years.
And even Dr. Aeon accepted it! And now it's too late, it's in the game, BAB is an FP member.

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I thought all of the Surviving Eight that weren't Phalanx members got invited to the Phalanx after the Rikti War. I don't know why I thought that.

Personally, I think BAB should be a member of the Phalanx. It's not much of a retcon if everyone thought he was anyway, and if you don't want to retcon it, have him officially invited after the events of Issue 21 and the destruction of Galaxy City, which force him to come out of retirement.
Way too reasonable!


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Sadly, this is just another instance like so many others where even the Rednames don't really know the lore of the game that they're writing.

I don't really WANT BaB to be a member of the Phalanx, but if we were to base the "truth" strictly on the evidence available inside of the game, you'd have no choice to but say "Yes, he's a member of the Freedom Phalanx."

Do I understand that somebody using the handle of Protean is in charge of managing the story nowadays? Maybe it's time to have a sit-down with this person and have him sort out the lore in the game and start making a project out of making the known lore organized and accessible for the sake of both players AND devs.


 

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I say keep BABs out of the Freedom Phalanx if that's the case! Rewrite those missions!

Have him be that really good ally who you think would be a FPer but isnt!


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All this BaBs talk is making me miss his presence on the forums


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Huh... I never thought he was a Phalanx member... at least not a full-time member. Like many Heroes of the City, I thought he was a reserve member.


 

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So does this make him "more" or "less" likely to be the one WHO WILL DIE?


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In other words, take it up with Sean and have him fix it, or else BAB is an official FP member!
And it occurs to me that running a programme like this is bound to create an enormous amount of popular publicity for the whole area of philosophy in general. Everyone's going to have their own theories about what answer the game will eventually to come up with, and who better to capitalize on that media market than Positron and Dr. Aeon? So long as they can keep disagreeing with each other violently enough and slagging each other off in the popular press, they can keep themselves on the gravy train for life. How does that sound?




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BaB clearly has a past with Manticore and I'd be surprised if he didn't have some past with Statesman.
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Look, I hate to be the one that brings this up, but you do realize that you're asking them to write the only minority out of the Phalanx, right? I mean, without him, the Phalanx is 100% white.
So you're saying race matters?


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Look, I hate to be the one that brings this up, but you do realize that you're asking them to write the only minority out of the Phalanx, right? I mean, without him, the Phalanx is 100% white.
Or in Numina's case, translucent.


 

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So you're saying race matters?
When you're talking about removing the only minority from the signature supergroup, yeah, it matters. I'd be saying the same thing about gender if people were asking for Sister Psyche and Numina to be written out.


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And speaking of places where BABs is apparently included in the Freedom Phalanx in NPC dialogue, Commander Murat in the RV Hero base says:

"You are not alone in this fight, hero. The Freedom Phalanx and even Statesman himself is here for support when needed. "


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Ladies and gentlemen, we have an OFFICIAL in-game inclusion of Brawler in the Phalanx.

Posting the screenshots now...

Sanctioned by none other than Dr. Aeon himself (both the dev AND the scientist)... here we have AE proof. http://twitpic.com/63mve4

In other words, take it up with Sean and have him fix it, or else BAB is an official FP member! http://twitpic.com/63mvnw

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When you're talking about removing the only minority from the signature supergroup, yeah, it matters. I'd be saying the same thing about gender if people were asking for Sister Psyche and Numina to be written out.
I figured it was BaB who would die. The black guy always dies.

Given the hullabaloo around the alternate-universe Spider-man dying and being replaced by a black/hispanic kid, maybe NCSoft should leak this to Fox News and get some free publicity.


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Huh, I just always kind of assumed that he was a FP member from how he always seemed to be hanging around with them. It was only reinforced in my mind by how he's a Praetor in Praetoria. One way or another, I'd say the writers have some tweaking to do.


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Huh, I just always kind of assumed that he was a FP member from how he always seemed to be hanging around with them. It was only reinforced in my mind by how he's a Praetor in Praetoria. One way or another, I'd say the writers have some tweaking to do.
Duncan is a Praetor and her counterpart in Primal is not a member of the Freedom Phalanx.


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Those are tiny and illegible. They could say anything.
Click on the upper right corner of the image, and select "view full size".




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When you're talking about removing the only minority from the signature supergroup, yeah, it matters. I'd be saying the same thing about gender if people were asking for Sister Psyche and Numina to be written out.
Except that he was never supposed to be in the group in the first place. That was sort an osmosis thing, as evidenced by Positron's question as to why anyone believed it.


 

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I have an arguable one from Positron himself, who designed the Badge system in Issue 2:

The Brawler badge is part of the Freedom Phalanx Reserve Accolade, and refers to Back Alley Brawler in its text. The badges in this set appear to be intended to refer to Phalanx Members. Interestingly enough, there is no badge to represent Numina or Citadel, and instead, one represents Ms. Liberty.


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