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Please fix these already!

It has been almost a year. Sometimes I cannot drop my pets and they do not follow commands at all they just stand there when i zone into something.

It is making this character so usless. I just logged out for 15 mins to cook, eat lunch and they are stil there doing nothing.

Zoning doesnt help, the base doesnt help nothing wil reset them not even going into a misson


 

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Try /releasepets, then resummon.


 

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Nothin wrong with my pets...ran the Alpha unlock, tip mishes, and they worked great.

Somebody must not be a good mastermind or your pets don't like you.


 

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Originally Posted by graystar_blaster View Post
Please fix these already!

It has been almost a year. Sometimes I cannot drop my pets and they do not follow commands at all they just stand there when i zone into something.

It is making this character so usless. I just logged out for 15 mins to cook, eat lunch and they are stil there doing nothing.

Zoning doesnt help, the base doesnt help nothing wil reset them not even going into a misson
Target them with something (anything friendly), but using your AOE Heal is probably best, will reestablish ownership.


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Originally Posted by Lightfoot View Post
Target them with something (anything friendly), but using your AOE Heal is probably best, will reestablish ownership.
Interesting, I didn't know this, I always /releasepets and resummon. Of course, my trapper and TA will have to continue resummoning...


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Originally Posted by The_Larker View Post
Nothin wrong with my pets...ran the Alpha unlock, tip mishes, and they worked great.

Somebody must not be a good mastermind or your pets don't like you.
This is actually a long-standing bug that was introduced about a year ago as the OP says, but there's nothing really constructive about posting "FIX IT!" when the devs are fully aware of the bug, as though they know exactly how to fix it but are refusing to do so just to spite you.


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Originally Posted by Deacon_NA View Post
Interesting, I didn't know this, I always /releasepets and resummon. Of course, my trapper and TA will have to continue resummoning...
It works sometimes. Not always. AOE buffs like the upgrades and old single target shields must (in my experience) be cast on each independently.


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Most of the time I just zone and they fix. Hit a mission and they fix. If not, I /releasepets and resummon; with the new endurance costs of equipping them it's pretty much not noticeable.


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Originally Posted by graystar_blaster View Post
Please fix these already!

It has been almost a year. Sometimes I cannot drop my pets and they do not follow commands at all they just stand there when i zone into something.

It is making this character so usless. I just logged out for 15 mins to cook, eat lunch and they are stil there doing nothing.

Zoning doesnt help, the base doesnt help nothing wil reset them not even going into a misson
Can't say I ever had that happen. Or even heard of it. Not that I doubt you, but given my experience, it doesn't exactly sound common.




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Originally Posted by Tyger42 View Post
Can't say I ever had that happen. Or even heard of it. Not that I doubt you, but given my experience, it doesn't exactly sound common.
It's pretty common. I regularly team with an MM and this will generally happen at least once each play session. I've never seen it happen myself, but my MM is /force field so every time I zone, I rebubble them automatically. As noted, that fixes the problem. It may have happened to me dozens of times, but I would never have noticed it. The other MM I team with doesn't have that option.


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Happens to me about one in four times I zone into a mission, more often on iTrials. Most iTrails I don't summon the pets until I'm in zone anyway, as I'm sure others waiting on the queue don't want to see all the pets try to fit into the queuing area (RWZ etc). Especially if you have four or five MM's in the league, which seems to be common on Infinity

I didn't know about the target with something friendly trick, I normally just /petrelease and resummon. I'll have to try the target trick next time.


 

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Originally Posted by Lightfoot View Post
Target them with something (anything friendly), but using your AOE Heal is probably best, will reestablish ownership.
Doesn't always work on my /thermal, who can do something like this, and is next to useless on my /dark, who can only do so by dragging an enemy close enough. The /releasepets command is the only thing (for me) that works EVERY time.

That being said, yes, FIX the problem. Too many bugs in this game have become "acceptable" already, due to age. Especially before F2P goes live and MMs become a "premium" AT. There are going to be a LOT of hacked-off people who will not be pleased to learn they've paid extra for a "broken" AT.


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Originally Posted by Bloodspeaker View Post
Doesn't always work on my /thermal, who can do something like this, and is next to useless on my /dark, who can only do so by dragging an enemy close enough. The /releasepets command is the only thing (for me) that works EVERY time.

That being said, yes, FIX the problem. Too many bugs in this game have become "acceptable" already, due to age. Especially before F2P goes live and MMs become a "premium" AT. There are going to be a LOT of hacked-off people who will not be pleased to learn they've paid extra for a "broken" AT.
Completely ignoring the fact that they've probably been tracking this bug the entire time but okay.


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It isn't like it makes you useless. Until recently you couldn't take them through transitions at all.

I'm still old-school and release/resummon between missions from force of habit. However, the few times I've kept them they work fine while friends of mine have it happen every single time. It really seems to matter how quickly you transition.

My theory is that they create the new pets in the new zone well before you get there and they become orphans. I can imagine it would be a real challenge to fix something like that.


 

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I have this problem occasionally myself. The solutions offered in this thread--dismissing and resummoning, targetting the pets with a buff, and rezoning --never seem to fix the problem for me. The only thing I find that works is logging out and logging back in with that character.


 

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It is a lag bug where the pets lose focus on the caster. I used to get it when I had Net issues (now my pets come in and out of the doors 3 times). If it happens to you a lot then you can avoid it by dismissing your pets before you zone (not a good fix I know).


 

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Happen to me all the time. Sometimes moving from zone to zone a few shot fix it but not often. The only 2 sure ways to fix that is to die or close the client.exe. Its damn annoying.


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Originally Posted by Remorseless View Post
Happen to me all the time. Sometimes moving from zone to zone a few shot fix it but not often. The only 2 sure ways to fix that is to die or close the client.exe. Its damn annoying.
/Releasepets always works like a charm for me when that happens. After the slash command you should be able to just resummon them normally.


 

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Originally Posted by Noxilicious View Post
/Releasepets always works like a charm for me when that happens. After the slash command you should be able to just resummon them normally.
Wrong! It does not work. Its a bug not stupidity on the MM part. The pets wont release. You cant do anything with them. They just stand wherever they are and look dumb. Even login off and back wont help because the state of your toon is saved, you need to either die or close the client, period. Once per blue moon they will re attached themselves to you by changing zones/instances but doesn't happen often.


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Originally Posted by graystar_blaster View Post
Please fix these already!

It has been almost a year. Sometimes I cannot drop my pets and they do not follow commands at all they just stand there when i zone into something.

It is making this character so usless. I just logged out for 15 mins to cook, eat lunch and they are stil there doing nothing.

Zoning doesnt help, the base doesnt help nothing wil reset them not even going into a misson
Interesting. I have only run into this problem once. The pets were still in connected to me, I just couldn't get them to move away from the ferry in Cap. I was able to dismiss them all and resummon them.

However, I have made it a point to dismiss my pets before I leave a mission, because I hate dragging half a zone of NPCs along with me when I go to the next mission.


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Originally Posted by Remorseless View Post
Wrong! It does not work. Its a bug not stupidity on the MM part. The pets wont release. You cant do anything with them. They just stand wherever they are and look dumb. Even login off and back wont help because the state of your toon is saved, you need to either die or close the client, period. Once per blue moon they will re attached themselves to you by changing zones/instances but doesn't happen often.
how is it that you know all about Nox's experiences with solutions to the MM bug? he did make one very important caveat to his statement that you quoted. I'll even high light it for you.
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/Releasepets always works like a charm for me when that happens. After the slash command you should be able to just resummon them normally.
That means that you may not get the same results, they are consistent results for him.

I apologize if I stepped in and intruded there, Noxilicious.


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Originally Posted by Remorseless View Post
Wrong! It does not work. Its a bug not stupidity on the MM part. The pets wont release. You cant do anything with them. They just stand wherever they are and look dumb. Even login off and back wont help because the state of your toon is saved, you need to either die or close the client, period. Once per blue moon they will re attached themselves to you by changing zones/instances but doesn't happen often.
Dismiss, or release? Those are two totally different commands.

When I get hit by the bug talked about, and buffing doesn't bring them back to my full control, the dismiss options don't work.

I've yet to have /releasepets NOT kill my pets. /releasepets was put in game for killing all pets, including the non-targetable vet pets. Unlike /dismisspets as that is for all Mastermind style pets.


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