Who Will Die?

This might have been posted somewhere before but... Someone is going to die...



Can we PLEASE make it be Statesman? He's been the bane of all of us for far too long.

All of the Surviving 8 perish. Replaced with heroes with better back stories.

That'd be an improvement overall, I think.

While the visual clue in that pic makes it pretty evident who the devs have in mind, I must agree that Statesman would be a better choice.

1. The City of Heroes comics tended to portray Statesman as arrogant and self-absorbed. His continued leadership could pose a problem to effectively dealing with the Praetorian threat.
2. Even Hero 1 thought Statesman was a bit too violent. Hero 1 (nee Honoree) could always be restored to his old self using the Lost Cure, perhaps with Sister Psyche's help in restoring his shattered mind, and step in to fill Statesman's leadership role.
3. Statesman dying, as one of the fore-running Incarnates on the side of good, would give more weight to the role of player Incarnates who would have to step up to fill the void left by the death of Marcus Cole.
4. Statesman's death would potentially even give Emperor Cole pause, as they share the same powers and source of their power and if Statesman can die, as powerful as he is... it could demonstrate to him that he's not as safe as he thinks he is.
5. It would be an excellent opportunity for a major player-participation event in the game.

Ooh, Hero One. I forgot about him somehow. If he was brought in, that'd be really cool.

I, for one, would be happy to see all them justice-spewing, holier-than-thou do-gooders get dead.

/Stormrider

My moneys on Manti.. and then sister psyche going down the mother mayhem route, and mind controlling everyone to kill the person who killed manti...

I kind of gotta go with Vaden here, how has Statesman really been the bane of everyone's existence? He's not much different from one of those statues. Then there's sheer fact that we all hate him just goes to show there'd be ZERO emotional impact of his death.
If they're going to kill Statesman, they'd need him to become more likable in the first place.
Now just removing statesman would be easy, especially to set up for character development.

First: You have him fight Tyrant... And then the Well of Furies withdraw all support from him mid-fight, leaving him not only a normal human, but suffering a relapse of his Mustard Seed Gas poisoning (which, the Well of Furies never did actually cure).

Second: Someone else intervenes and dies to help him, I'd probably say Blue Steel, BaB, Manti, or even an ordinary PPD officer. Bonus points if they honestly lay down a surprising amount of smack on Tyrant. This would prove to Statesman you don't the power of the Well to stand up against super powers.

Finally: After recovering in the hospital, Statesman, now just Marcus Cole again feels humiliated and humbled by the experience. Realizing that the world has greater heroes than him already, he goes on a sabbatical journey, vowing that when he returns to be strong enough to support other heroes.

Bonus points: Something similar happens to Lord Recluse, only instead of going on sabbatical, he, armed with only SoA AT powers, proves that even without the support of the Well, he's more than capable of keeping the rest of Arachnos in-line, but still develops common sense and withdraws to straighten Arachnos out (like that horrific idea of making Arachnos bases have chicken wire floors and mandating female personale to wear heels) and strengthen the hold he has.

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Originally Posted by Samuel_Tow City of Heroes is a game about freedom of expression and variety of experiences far more so than it is about representing any one theme, topic or genre.

Anti-Matter and Sorceress Serene team up to KILL STATESMAN ... (with the willing assistance of every player who was signed up in Issues 5 and 6) ...

It's the end. But the moment has been prepared for ...

Someone posted a link to something that came in their Inbox today.

Here it is:

People were hating Statesman long before I5-I6.

Yep, people are allowed to dislike something without any actual reason other then 'just because'.

Statesman isn't dying

If you read the history, Statesman was responsible for what is now known as "Boomtown" by tossing a Rikti ship or two in its direction. The history doesn't specifically say that (that I could find), but any whose origins are dated from the time of Boomtown's decimation have reason to dislike, even hate, Statesman. Since none of my characters originated from Boomtown, I have no personal complaints against him. My SG leader, on the other hand, does.

Here's a quote from the history: "From the moment the first invader stepped through a portal, the heroes in Paragon City sprang into action. Statesman led the charge, quite literally, hurling his body into one of the largest attack craft. A minute later the massive flying fortress exploded from within and fell crashing to the ground. The seemingly unharmed Statesman flashed across the sky and into another ship, with similarly devastating results. It was only after the third such assault that he became aware of the tremendous collateral damage these falling behemoths were causing when they crashed to the streets below. Aware of this problem, he changed tactics, using his incredible strength to actually push the giant ships out over the river before demolishing them."

Here's the link

You'd think that a hero of Statesman's stature and knowledge would be a bit more intelligent in such things, no? The quote doesn't directly point at Baumton ("Boomtown") as being the recipient of those ships crashing, but we can infer that evidence seems to indicate that it was Baumton and the Rikti War Zone.

Personally, I don't think it will be Statesman who will die, but rather, Manticore, followed by Sister Psyche who may commit suicide at her loss (depending on how close her and Manti are depicted).

Statesman is the face of the game, so I doubt it will be him. I wouldn't mind Manticore be knocked off. His death may alter Sister Psyche (Psychic + Trauma = Plot Set Up) and could shake things up for Wyvern. Another one would be BABs, he is losing a zone and it is usually the black guy who gets killed first, or maybe the devs are genre savvy, that may be a psych out.

Statesman=!Jack Emmert. People still seem to ignore that. And States merely suffers from poor writing.

I doubt they'd kill anyone off, honestly. Killing characters off for shock value and such is an incredibly lame thing I doubt our dev writers would lower themselves to.

(Also, internet ate my first post. Yay)

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Originally Posted by Zwillinger GG, I would tell you that "I am killing you with my mind", but I couldn't find an emoticon to properly express my sentiment.

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Originally Posted by Captain_Photon NOTE: The Incarnate System is basically farming for IOs on a larger scale, and with more obtrusive lore.

If they could pull it off correctly, it could be good, just don't kill off a character every issue.

haha heroes r gonna die!!...villains rule