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Or a Freeb that buys a single batch of points for $10 (provided that Paragon Studios continues to use Turbines F2P model).
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Originally Posted by Dr_Darkspeed
Well yes, but from what I understand that applies to anyone who has ever spent any money on the game at all (including just subscribing for 1 month).
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Yes but if you look at that list I posted it clearly shows that NO ONE is getting Going Rogue for free.|
Originally Posted by Dr_Darkspeed
Well yes, but from what I understand that applies to anyone who has ever spent any money on the game at all (including just subscribing for 1 month).
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Free players are paying for it.
Premium players are paying for it.
VIP players are paying for it.
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Originally Posted by Forbin_Project
Yes but if you look at that list I posted it clearly shows that NO ONE is getting Going Rogue for free.
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Um... I did look at that list, before you posted it. In reply to me saying:
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| GR Purchasers do get something for having bought it. If we ever decide to not subscribe, we keep full access to GR content (under same circumstances, other people still have to pay for it). Thats pretty descent, not that I plan to ever let my sub lapse. |
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Originally Posted by Dr_Darkspeed
Um... I did look at that list, before you posted it. In reply to me saying:
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I reiterated what was said in the hopes it will sink into the OP's skull if he ever decides to return to the thread. Hopefully if he thinks the posts are directed at someone else he'll be more receptive to the truth.
Don't tell him tho.
I've gotten, and will continue to get, good value-for-money for the Going Rogue content that I've been able to enjoy for... almost a year now, isn't it? And I will be happy to see more subscribers able to create Praetorians and Incarnates when the Freedom change occurs - I'll be ready to help them out and show them the ropes!
Plus, if I lapse into being a Premium account before Freedom starts, I'm assured of still having Going Rogue since I purchased it.
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additionally, those who preordered gr also got the dp and demon summoner sets availaible well before launch, so we have enjoyed some benefits far longer than that. plus, those who pre-ordered but did not qualify for the loyalty beta or vet beta still got to influence the flow of gr, something people whole waited did not. if youa re cool with waiting, cool, but i prefer to have the new content when it is available, not a year to a year and a half later.
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Originally Posted by Golden Girl
By the time I21 goes live, it'll very likely be over a year since GR launched.
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Nah. I had DSL twelve years ago, and I was only paying $45 a month for it.
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Originally Posted by Nihilii
Twelve years ago, many people paid hundreds a month for 56k Internet access.
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Originally Posted by Hyperstrike
English does not borrow from other languages. English follows other languages down dark alleys, hits them over the head, and rifles through their pockets for loose grammar.
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It is true that newbies who subscribe and have never paid explicitly for a GR code will get GR automatically in their VIP account.
However, if such folk drop to Premium, then they lose GR and will have to pay extra for it.
You, on the other hand, who paid for a GR code, will continue to have GR if you drop to Premium level.
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This argument seems awfully familiar. Replace 'Going Rogue' with 'City of Villains' and it's like going back in time.
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Originally Posted by Demobot
This argument seems awfully familiar. Replace 'Going Rogue' with 'City of Villains' and it's like going back in time.
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Somehow i expect the OP to never acknowledge his rant was misinformed even if he reads and understands the replies. Either he'll act like he was actually saying something else or he'll pull a j_s and never post in this thread again once it becomes clear he was wrong.
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Originally Posted by REDRUM
Its not right to have people pay for somthing then just give it out free to everyone
 Thats BS and thay need to do something for the people who payed for it. |
Companies of all sorts have been charging customers premiums for new "extra" features that eventually become free "standard" features for decades if not centuries now. It covers their cost of development and provides an accepted source of profit. Ncsoft did it with CoV so there really wasn't any reason to think it wouldn't also happen with Going Rogue eventually. Welcome to standard business practices 101. *shrugs*
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Your rant is BS. This is a common practice. The same thing was done with villains - we paid for CoV and now everyone gets villains for free. You will not receive any sort of compensation.
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Originally Posted by REDRUM
I dont like how everyone gets Going Rogue free. I payed for my Going Rogue and i think we should get are money back or a free month of game play or something. Its not right to have people pay for somthing then just give it out free to everyone
Thats BS and thay need to do something for the people who payed for it. |
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Originally Posted by Demobot
This argument seems awfully familiar. Replace 'Going Rogue' with 'City of Villains' and it's like going back in time.
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I paid more for Complete Edition GR than I did for Collector's Edition CoV. Then again, I got CE CoV at Half Price Books.
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Originally Posted by Memphis_Bill
I *guarantee* I paid more for COV than you did for GR, since I got the collectors edition at release.
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I just want to clarify this. When CoH and CoV were first integrated, it was in the marketing push for the Good vs. Evil Edition, which came with a new retail box. (This was late 2006 to early 2007, a year and a half after CoV came out.) |
Originally Posted by Ironblade
Your rant is BS. This is a common practice. The same thing was done with villains - we paid for CoV and now everyone gets villains for free. You will not receive any sort of compensation.
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Those of us who had already purchased CoH and CoV were given the privilege of paying $10 for the extra in-game powers and costume pieces that came with the GvE edition. No one was given anything for free.
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Originally Posted by BYiro
I just want to clarify this. When CoH and CoV were first integrated, it was in the marketing push for the Good vs. Evil Edition, which came with a new retail box. (This was late 2006 to early 2007, a year and a half after CoV came out.)
Those of us who had already purchased CoH and CoV were given the privilege of paying $10 for the extra in-game powers and costume pieces that came with the GvE edition. No one was given anything for free. |
- City of Villains released as an "expanshalone" in October 2005. At this time, you needed City of Heroes purchased separately to play a hero.
- In September 2006 the Good Versus Evil Edition was released. The code for this edition activated both heroes and villains simultaneously (or whichever side was missing, if used on an existing account).
- In July 2008, players who still only had Heroes or Villains without access to the other side gained that access without having to buy anything extra.
Players who already had Going Rogue and remain subscribers aren't getting anything extra (compared to players who currently don't have it, but will by virtue of continuing to sub), but the time we've had to use the GR content, I think counts as enough advantage. (Plus if we lapse and become Premium, we've still got it.)
Somehow I snuck into the game without ever paying for either City of Heroes or Villains (but yes to Going Rogue). I suppose most people who joined in 2008 did.
I think game time cards ($20 for 1 month + expiring jetpack) were able to open accounts or upgrade trials.
I had City of Villains very briefly after it came out, but can't remember any of the account details. Then in '08 when I heard about the CoH/V merge I wanted to get back into the game, and I think I just bought a pile of time cards at Best Buy.
Sadly, the account details only say "Retail". I can't even tell which one is Going Rogue.
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I snuck into the game back in 2005 without paying for a retail package. They had something called a 'Buddy Code' where an existing player could invite you and you never had to buy the game - just start paying the monthly fee.
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Originally Posted by Oedipus_Tex
Somehow I snuck into the game without ever paying for either City of Heroes or Villains (but yes to Going Rogue). I suppose most people who joined in 2008 did.
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They also had CoH "Bootleg Edition" discs that were at Best Buy that gave you the entire game around I want to say issue 4 or 5. I know because Marketing sent me a bunch of them along with some awesome CoV t-shirts and capes to give out at the Connecticon anime convention.|
Originally Posted by Ironblade
I snuck into the game back in 2005 without paying for a retail package. They had something called a 'Buddy Code' where an existing player could invite you and you never had to buy the game - just start paying the monthly fee.
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I actually made 5 bucks buying Going Rogue. I got it during Best Buy's Cyber Monday deal for 10 bucks, so I got a month of game time while saving 5 clams. Not a bad deal and I don't begrudge people getting Praetoria this fall for free.
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OP: 5-10 years from now, people will give away computers with better specs than the one you're currently using to play CoH. Twelve years ago, many people paid hundreds a month for 56k Internet access.
Paying gets you to experience better things sooner. It's not a guarantee progress will stop ; if anything, it's the opposite. Part of the money you spend is used to push the technology further.