The real cost of buying game money


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Don't want to get all political, but I think the history of prohibition and legalization of alcohol and other drugs show how faulty this reasoning is. Driving an activity underground means that the underground can use that activity to subsidize itself. Organized crime was the real winner from alcohol prohibition and the Mexican drug mafias are the real winners from the war on drugs. If you want Chinese gold farms to be driven out of existence, then you need to offer a legit alternative, not just moralize in louder tones.
That's a mess because of the stigma associated with that practice in general. Can see it in these forums with discussions about potential microtransaction expansions and the like. It really 'changes' the game when it's offered by the studio to a lot of people. And there may be more 'cost' to the product over all than the cost of the third party RMTs.

Very unpleasant mess all around though.


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To be fair, the President's job is never to be scary.
Its occasionally been their hobby, though:



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Why does it matter. He's not someone scary like Mike Tyson or Chuck Norris.
Chuck Norris is no longer cool. He isn't even a real Chuck, his name is Carlos.


 

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so we pay to do an activity that prisoners are forced to do in communist countries. im gonna get stared on my waterboarding resort and home testicle car battery massage system, who wants in on early investment?


 

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It's a good thing no one was disputing that, then.

Are you familiar with the phrase, "if wishes were horses then beggars would ride?" I think it's pretty relevant here. Wishing that people would stop buying game money does nothing to solve this, no matter how hard you wish.

edit: re-reading this, it sounds snottier than I meant. No offense was intended.
No offense taken. In the very next sentence you didn't quote I admitted it was naive. Since we both agree there is no disputing it then we are good.

Of course, Jophiel hit it on the nail best. If it wasn't virtual goods it would be something else they were using that slave labor for.


 

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And getting a blister on the thumb or forefinger is slave labour?
Lemme tell ya, them guys ain't dumb
Maybe get a blister on your little finger
Maybe get a blister on your thumb...

That's the way you do it
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I want my...
I want my...
I want my RMT
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so we pay to do an activity that prisoners are forced to do in communist countries. im gonna get stared on my waterboarding resort and home testicle car battery massage system, who wants in on early investment?
LOL


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Don't want to get all political, but I think the history of prohibition and legalization of alcohol and other drugs show how faulty this reasoning is. Driving an activity underground means that the underground can use that activity to subsidize itself. Organized crime was the real winner from alcohol prohibition and the Mexican drug mafias are the real winners from the war on drugs. If you want Chinese gold farms to be driven out of existence, then you need to offer a legit alternative, not just moralize in louder tones.
The game is a somewhat different system than RL. It's not necessarily true that what works for one open ended system is the best choice for a different system.


 

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so we pay to do an activity that prisoners are forced to do in communist countries. im gonna get stared on my waterboarding resort and home testicle car battery massage system, who wants in on early investment?
Epic!


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Agreed, Chaos. That sounds like so much fun.
Compared to what? Would their beatings be less severe if they were making those shoes you are wearing and fell behind quota?


 

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Cool. prisoners get to play MMOs inside instead of back breaking real mining.
I'm ok with that.
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You're one of this planet's 'special people'. Hopefully you're the last one ever
Thanks, I'll take that how I please.


 

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Don't want to get all political, but I think the history of prohibition and legalization of alcohol and other drugs show how faulty this reasoning is. Driving an activity underground means that the underground can use that activity to subsidize itself. Organized crime was the real winner from alcohol prohibition and the Mexican drug mafias are the real winners from the war on drugs. If you want Chinese gold farms to be driven out of existence, then you need to offer a legit alternative, not just moralize in louder tones.
That's fine and good for victimless crimes. I think the main debate is over what one considers "victimless." Obviously, it cannot be extended in general. I mean, murder is illegal, and hitmen are really expensive. If we just made murder legal, would that mean there'd be no more need for hitmen? There is the concept of the cure being worse than the disease.

In my opinion, such is the case of RMT. I don't want anyone doing it. Not NCsoft, not Chinese gold farmers, not "Johns" who buy the stuff. I don't have any power over the Chinese gold farmers. As for the Johns, I'm not too worried; most of them learn why RMT is bad the hard way. However, NCsoft I do have at least some power over as a paying customer, and hoping that most people agree with me to the extent that they won't do it. Moreover, NCsoft also has pseudo-police powers in the matter in that they are able to directly address the RMT problem through mechanics to make it difficult to near impossible to do, and banning accounts that engage in the practice.


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They get beaten if they do not meet their quotas, I read that article on the paper itself and was not surprised.

I am saddened that the industry is having difficulty preventing this altogether, the market for it is ridiculous.

It is slave labour, no matter how you look at it, and should be quashed.

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play?

Play???

Really?? You're going to call forced repetitive clicking 'play'? Really?

That's like calling back breaking real mining 'exercise.'
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It's ok. Kenshiro will be along shortly to free them from their oppression.


 

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(insert random MMO here) playing at night for 6-8 hours per sitting.
Only 6-8 hours? What does Perfect_Pain have to say about this? I'm pretty sure she plays her MMO(s) for 25 hours a day.


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Forcing somone to play WoW? Ill take the physical work or the beatings instead.