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Scroll up, I actually didn't bring Arcana up first and subsequent to that, I replied to posts that were also made in reference to her - and that were directed at me.
And since then, Arcana has been addressing me. Should I have ignored her in the interests of satisfying your sense of justice? |
Never said you started it originally, just your response when someone else brought up her past accomplishments.
Loose --> not tight.
Lose --> Did not win, misplace, cannot find, subtract.
One extra 'o' makes a big difference.
My primary objection on rewards remains that the trial seems to be designed to reward people *not* trying their best; I am reluctant to slack off in order to get the more valuable Commons, but other people with less integrity or drive do less and are rewarded more. Fortunately this is fairly easily fixed by manipulating either the exchange rates so that Uncommons convert to Commons at 1:1 or better, or the tables to allow you to pick from the lower levels.
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I said that she was human and it's an attack on her credibility? This is exactly what I was addressing, I sincerely appreciate you providing a ready example.
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Sorry but that stance is more absurd. She is human and can make mistakes (see her commentary on pvp numbers). At times she doesn't take into effect the human element, which is fine as a lot of numbers people don't. The fact that she's a board celebrity (and not entirely unjustified at that) doesn't make her a super-player. It makes her good with numbers. |
My numbers posts should not necessarily afford me more credibility in my other endeavors, but they should not afford me less either.
One more thing: I was actually a known quantity on the forums *before* I became known as the numbers maven. Notoriety came first, numbers came second. I guess most of the people who were around to know that have died of old age.
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No, what you did was take offense that someone would dare trust one player over another (or really, you, when it comes down to it).
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You've been trying to defend your position ever since by making her out to be someone seeking attention and downplaying her obvious contributions to the game. |
Sorry if none of the rest of us follow that same train of thought. There are tangible fingerprints in the game of her unsolicited work. Have you contributed anything besides posting in a forum? |
You?
Never said you started it originally, just your response when someone else brought up her past accomplishments. |
You may want to look in that class sooner, rather than later.
Saying I'm good with numbers is a complement. Saying I'm a "numbers person" and implying that limits my viewpoint or expertise is not a complement. Its an attempt to turn me into a caricature. I wrote one of the first guides to pulling. I helped formulate the standard strategy for the level 50 Hamidon. I used to solo task forces and AVs when it wasn't considered easy. I'm actually to the best of my knowledge the first person to post a "scrapper challenge" thread and the first to post a "earn X from scratch in the markets on the red side" threads. Its not like any of these things are big secrets, so saying I'm just a numbers person, instead of just someone good at numbers, is an attempt to put me into a small box with air holes that other people can ignore.
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All the rest is fine and dandy, but you are not unique in the other accomplishments, in comparative terms. And unless I am misunderstanding you, you are not claiming to be uniquely suited to the role(s) that others attribute to be only filled by you. However, you do often come across with exactly that personae.
My numbers posts should not necessarily afford me more credibility in my other endeavors, but they should not afford me less either. |
One more thing: I was actually a known quantity on the forums *before* I became known as the numbers maven. Notoriety came first, numbers came second. I guess most of the people who were around to know that have died of old age. |
That is a fair point, pigeonholing is something that shouldn't be encouraged.
All the rest is fine and dandy, but you are not unique in the other accomplishments, in comparative terms. And unless I am misunderstanding you, you are not claiming to be uniquely suited to the role(s) that others attribute to be only filled by you. However, you do often come across with exactly that personae. |
Actually, there is another unique thing about me. When the players say "X should go take a look at this" most players don't. I tend to foolishly say "ok." That may have more to do with it than anything else.
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I said that she was human and it's an attack on her credibility? This is exactly what I was addressing, I sincerely appreciate you providing a ready example.
Also, when you said I had a chip on my shoulder are *you* claiming omniscience or are you making the point that your personal observations should be discounted as being factually incorrect. I only ask because I evidently don't know me as well as you know me. I see. What criteria do you wish to propose that makes the cutoff for this? Please show the math. |
You caught me--I'm actually not omniscient. I just read words, and the ones you wrote were: "That's a far cry from any justification that elevates any player above us mere peons...". That makes you sound like you have a chip on your shoulder. So do the rest of your posts, like this one:
And yet my point stands - unless you have the shiny _ in your name, you should not be elevated above the rest of us by the rest of us.
You say most of your non-numbers stuff is done privately. Ok, fair enough. Who's to say it's to the same quality as your numbers stuff? Who's to say that the devs treat it with the same degree of respect as the numbers stuff? To what degree do they, in fact do so? Short of you being infallible, which although you skirt the line of claiming, you have never actually claimed, what happens if you and someone else give opposing viewpoints and you're wrong? And yet, your opinion is heeded? This has nothing to do about you per se, although if you want perceptions about you to be different, you're the only one who can make that happen. This is more about we and the staff elevating any player above the others. Should knowledgeable, intelligent players be heard? Without a doubt. Should it come at the expense of everyone else? No. Truman, commenting on his victory over Dewey said, "Dewey knew more college presidents than taxi drivers, and I knew more taxi drivers than college presidents." And yet it doesn't mean the mistake isn't yours. Unless you are actually claiming omniscience? |
And in terms of me showing a criteria for cutoff and showing the math, I am not going to dictate to the people on this forum what it takes to have credibility. I am not questioning anyone's credibility at this point, except perhaps yours. You are the one who is relentless in chipping away at Arcana's contributions to the knowledge base, and making her seem like she gets more attention than she deserves. And the more you write, the more petty it sounds.
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The rest of your response is great backpedaling technique. Kudos to you.
Loose --> not tight.
Lose --> Did not win, misplace, cannot find, subtract.
One extra 'o' makes a big difference.
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All MyLexiconIsHuge is trying to say is that no player, including Arcanaville, should be elevated to dev status, let alone godhood.
Even Arcanaville, as great and humble-less as she is, agrees.
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Care to enlighten the rest of the class what those contributions might be, or am I to take your word for it? Keep in mind, I'm not the one trying to tear down another player's status by saying "They're no better than me" so it doesn't matter what I've done. I haven't made any claims one way or the other.
The rest of your response is great backpedaling technique. Kudos to you. |
I don't think any player should need to be doing what Arcana does, and asking for her to do the devs' job is a bit much, considering the devs are paid by us to deliver entertainment. Anything Arcana does is unpaid and therefore solely a volunteer effort. As professional as her critique may be, it is still an amateur effort and the players are asking for work from the 'pros'.
Customers are pretty much demanding that the devs hire someone who can do what is requested of Arcana or do it themselves and be more open and transparent with the results.
Customers are pretty much demanding that the devs hire someone who can do what is requested of Arcana or do it themselves and be more open and transparent with the results.
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Instead we have guesswork, rumors, and conspiracy theories at a time when simple clarity would allow players to tell the developers "this isn't working".
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Something is definitely wrong with the way rewards are being handed out.
I have continually been getting rares/very rares on my brute, while I've only gotten common/uncommons on my corruptor.
The worst part is, I have no idea why. If you're going to have this system, we the players should at least be told how it works. I'm putting in the exact same effort on both toons, and I'm an experienced player so I know how to play each at, yet I'm getting drastically different rewards. The worst part is, I know for a fact the corruptor is contributing more to the team/league, yet gets far worse rewards. So while I don't know how the system works because apparently its a secret, I do know it is broken if the systems goal is to award based on best contribution to the team/league.
Also, when you said I had a chip on my shoulder are *you* claiming omniscience or are you making the point that your personal observations should be discounted as being factually incorrect.
I only ask because I evidently don't know me as well as you know me.
Please show the math.