Ion Core Judgement: Oh Lordy!
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Aura_Familia,
Posted on: 2011-04-13 18:56 in CoH and CoV General Discussions
I will point out that the Ion core judgement is currently bugged to be RIDICULOUSLY powerful.
It either, from what I can figure out.
A) Accepts outside damage buffs, mine says 400 something with another 200 on the proc when I regularly see it hitting for 700 damage and then the 200 proc ontop when Rage is in full swing. Now this may be the +45% damage Alpha I have slotted.
or
B) Jumps back onto targets it's already jumped from, meaning it tends to hit a clustered group of say, 20 enemies, twice each, dealing absurd amounts of damage.
So while at the moment it's beyond awesome, don't expect it to remain so awesome in the future.
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Actually, it does both! I've personally observed my Common Ion Judgement do 2 hits for 1200 and nearly kill a Vicky that was at full health, and that's not nearly as good as some I've seen posted on the forums.|
Originally Posted by Dr_Mechano
It either, from what I can figure out.
A) Accepts outside damage buffs, mine says 400 something with another 200 on the proc when I regularly see it hitting for 700 damage and then the 200 proc ontop when Rage is in full swing. Now this may be the +45% damage Alpha I have slotted. or B) Jumps back onto targets it's already jumped from, meaning it tends to hit a clustered group of say, 20 enemies, twice each, dealing absurd amounts of damage. |
The jumps (although not the initial hit) benefit from all damage buffs - including Musculature of course, but also including Assault, Build Up, Fulcrum Shift, or anything else you like. AND, because of the way the jumps work, it can indeed jump back to previous targets. The explanation I saw (in a thread I am too lazy to find right now) said that when A jumps to B, B can't jump back to A. Then B jumps to C, but C can jump to A.
I now wish to see a fulcrum shifted to damage cap Brute use a Very Rare Ion Judgement against 3 AVs.
I am the Blaster, I have filled the role of Tank, Controller and Defender
Sometimes all at once.
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Hardest I've seen my Very Rare judgement Ion hit is it once cranked up to a truly incredulous 1500 damage per mob with Rage + whatever the Heroic align damage buff is called + very rare damage Alpha and a boatload of red insps.
Wish I'd screenshotted that.
My brute has been able to one shot the War Walkers in the trials and the weapon caches in Lambda with the t3 Ion Judgement. The one with extra damage to all ranks. One time, the only thing left from me alphaing a spawn with Ion was the original minion target.
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A is definitly a bug, the jumps are being buffed by outside sources|
Originally Posted by Dr_Mechano
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A) Accepts outside damage buffs, mine says 400 something with another 200 on the proc when I regularly see it hitting for 700 damage and then the 200 proc ontop when Rage is in full swing. Now this may be the +45% damage Alpha I have slotted. or B) Jumps back onto targets it's already jumped from, meaning it tends to hit a clustered group of say, 20 enemies, twice each, dealing absurd amounts of damage. |
B i havent seen any word on if it is bugged or not, but it is possible that jumps are not supposed to hit same target multiple times
as to one of the best stories on this, my main was on an ITF last week and 1 shot a minotaur cause ion judgement hit him like 3 times lol
Normally bugs like this are fixed sharpish so I'm assuming that it's actually a lot harder to fix than normal.
I do hope they don't overnerf it to compensate though.
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Best I've had so far was a double hit at 1800 against a Roman boss during an ITF.|
Originally Posted by Dr_Mechano
Hardest I've seen my Very Rare judgement Ion hit is it once cranked up to a truly incredulous 1500 damage per mob with Rage + whatever the Heroic align damage buff is called + very rare damage Alpha and a boatload of red insps.
Wish I'd screenshotted that. |
I'm gonna miss it once it's fixed, but yeah. Ion is sooooo bugged.
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I doubt you'd see much difference whether it was a Brute or Defender.|
Originally Posted by CBeet
I now wish to see a fulcrum shifted to damage cap Brute use a Very Rare Ion Judgement against 3 AVs.
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The Ion jumps use the NPC damage cap which is 400% (+300%). That puts it around the 1800-1900 range once maxed.
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TA Defender with both resistance debuffs out and eating lots of reds then |
Originally Posted by Rush_Bolt
I doubt you'd see much difference whether it was a Brute or Defender.
The Ion jumps use the NPC damage cap which is 400% (+300%). That puts it around the 1800-1900 range once maxed. |
I am the Blaster, I have filled the role of Tank, Controller and Defender
Sometimes all at once.
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That would do it. |
Originally Posted by CBeet
TA Defender with both resistance debuffs out and eating lots of reds then
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PLease stop screaming for bug-fixes, we spent 50 levels being absurdly underpowered, we get one ACTUAL SUPER POWER and people are like "O Lordy, let's fix this now."
They're going to nerf it into the ground soon enough. Shhh. At the moment I am too busy channelling Electro, one of my favorite supervillains.
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We all know it is bugged, so I am sure the Devs know it also. When they do fix it I am sure there will be lots of nerdrage and someone will quit the game over the nerf.
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Originally Posted by Bad_Influence
PLease stop screaming for bug-fixes, we spent 50 levels being absurdly underpowered, we get one ACTUAL SUPER POWER and people are like "O Lordy, let's fix this now."
They're going to nerf it into the ground soon enough. Shhh. At the moment I am too busy channelling Electro, one of my favorite supervillains. |
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LOL I'll stick to my pyronic thanks. I like the burnt to a crisp effects |
Originally Posted by Gruumch
We all know it is bugged, so I am sure the Devs know it also. When they do fix it I am sure there will be lots of nerdrage and someone will quit the game over the nerf.
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Well that explains why everyone and their mother is picking Ion. Seriously, I was on a Lambda last night and you would have thought the entire team was made up of Electro and Shocker clones....
Wonder if I have time to craft it on my Dom using my excess threads...
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I picked it up the second day of i20 before I had heard it was bugged because it fit so well with my EM/Elec Brute. I definitely like the amount of damage it does but I won't mind when it gets fixed.
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Originally Posted by Benchpresser
Well that explains why everyone and their mother is picking Ion. Seriously, I was on a Lambda last night and you would have thought the entire team was made up of Electro and Shocker clones....
Wonder if I have time to craft it on my Dom using my excess threads... |
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Mine was a thematic choice as well, but all the same, it has been a fun power to play with outside the incarnate trials. Raising it to T3 has knocked 2 minutes off my map clearing time which makes me wonder how fast a full team with the power could clear the map?
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Originally Posted by Gruumch
I picked it up the second day of i20 before I had heard it was bugged because it fit so well with my EM/Elec Brute. I definitely like the amount of damage it does but I won't mind when it gets fixed.
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Yeah during a Lambda run that I was on I mentioned in the league chat how surprised I was at people getting the Ion Judgement power and someone mentioned that it was bugged.
I never knew that until then...I chose it on my main because...well....he's Energizing Ion....Ion Judgement...just fits in 
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I'm in the same boat, picked it before I knew it was bugged since I wanted a sort of Zeus's lightning style attack for my character.
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How is making the skill on par with the other 3 Judgement types-- already very powerful in their own right-- "nerfing it into the ground," as you put it?|
Originally Posted by Bad_Influence
They're going to nerf it into the ground soon enough. Shhh. At the moment I am too busy channelling Electro, one of my favorite supervillains.
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I picked a tier 1 Ion Judgement before I knew it was bugged. And after I knew it was bugged I went with Cryonic which I far and away prefer. Ion was fun, but a 45 degree 144 foot cone (with Alpha) is frickin' awesome. It was also nice to see something other than lightning Judgement while on a PUG...
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Waah.|
Originally Posted by Bad_Influence
PLease stop screaming for bug-fixes, we spent 50 levels being absurdly underpowered, we get one ACTUAL SUPER POWER and people are like "O Lordy, let's fix this now."
They're going to nerf it into the ground soon enough. Shhh. At the moment I am too busy channelling Electro, one of my favorite supervillains. |
Those of us who are saying it's bugged are merely acknowledging what's very evident to anyone who actually uses the power. If even mentioning that something is not working "properly" is equivalent to "screaming for bug-fixes" and saying "O Lordy, let's fix this now" then I fully expect to never hear from you on any sort of problem you might have.
Personally, I chose Ion before I knew it was bugged. It was thematic for my Elec/Elec Dom. I'm still going to use it once it's fixed because I like it. But that doesn't mean it's not working correctly.
It's not and it'll get fixed when it does. In the mean time, I'm going to continue enjoying the power, but still acknowledge that it's bugged.
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I've seen it hit for 2200 on a bounce back to Siege that hit nightstar and a vicky about 15 feet away.
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Originally Posted by CBeet
I now wish to see a fulcrum shifted to damage cap Brute use a Very Rare Ion Judgement against 3 AVs.
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WHAT, BELOW 10,000!|
Originally Posted by Santorican
My Ion Core Judgement did over 9000 damage...
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eh you knew someone was going to remark on that, may as well be me.
I had a kill all rikti mission handed out by Borea set a x8/+1 and it took all of 13 minutes to wipe the cave clean.
Using LRM + ICJ + ExB (Explosive Blast) made for some really fun moments outside of the Lambda and BAF trials
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