More choices for Judgement


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I have to say, I'm very disappointed with the scope of options for Judgement slots, aesthetically speaking. For a game that's as graphically customizable as City of Heroes, it seems like having only 4 judgement effects to choose from (Fire/Cold/Lightning/Negative) is quite a let-down.

Is there any hope of getting some more judgement options, so that people who aren't Fire/Cold/Lightning/Dark themed characters can have a Judgement power that's aesthetically appropriate?


 

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You know they're colorable in the tailor, right?


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Maybe he wants a natural based theme? I wouldn't mind a wall/storm of swords like effect for my sword-themed toons, even if it's stacking more lethal on.


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Originally Posted by dave_p View Post
Maybe he wants a natural based theme? I wouldn't mind a wall/storm of swords like effect for my sword-themed toons, even if it's stacking more lethal on.
How would summoning a storm of swords be natural?

I don't really see weapons getting treated in the Judgement slot, due to the fact that they'd have to make a specific power for every weapon set in the game. One for katana, broadsword, dual blades, mace, axe, dual pistols, rifle, and bow. Nearly an entire powerset worth of powers.

As to the OP, being able to color our Judgement powers opens them up to a wide variety of concepts. I know people that plan on taking the dark one, coloring it gray, and playing it out as a smoke grenade being thrown at their feet, for instance. So they aren't necessarily restricted to Fire/Cold/Elec/Dark characters.


 

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How is becoming an Incarnate "Natural" ?


Seriously... Your being imbue with the power of Gods. Even your Iron Sergeant Theme character thats all physical fit training, is going to suddenly being shooting Fireballs from his eyes, and lighning from his ****.



PS - I would like to see a few more visual types of Judgement. But at least we can color customizse them to look like other things.


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I know people that plan on taking the dark one, coloring it gray, and playing it out as a smoke grenade being thrown at their feet...
If smoke grenade did that much damage we'd be back to City of /Devices Blasters.


 

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If smoke grenade did that much damage we'd be back to City of /Devices Blasters.
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It can be knockout gas. Whateves.
More like Knock-You-On-Your-Backside Gas.


 

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I think judgment is game breaking to be honest.

I understand the want for more options for it. But I think it was definately a step in the wrong direction.

My oppinion only, and I wont speak for others, because the need for theme is very important for me as well, and Im not trying to create an argument, I just feel it's not right for the game.


 

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How would summoning a storm of swords be natural?
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More like Knock-You-On-Your-Backside Gas.
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Is there any hope of getting some more judgement options, so that people who aren't Fire/Cold/Lightning/Dark themed characters can have a Judgement power that's aesthetically appropriate?
There is hope - the devs have indicated a desire to add more choices to each slot. Exactly how many and how quickly they'll come is another matter of course, but we may well get more than just the 4 per slot in the end.


 

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I recolored my pyronic purple/blue and purple/pink to make it look like 'psi-fire'

worked nice....although I'm wishing I took ion and made it red to match my Mu lightning skills.


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The colors arently really the issue for me, I just hate the animations. Its the same old recyled crap we already have. Also there is no options for a psi or toxic nuke. I think at the very least those 2 need to be interface and judgement options.


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I think judgment is game breaking to be honest.
I kind of agree, in so far as everyone now will have a tier 9 blast that makes the actual tier 9 blasts look like a joke. But that doesn't bother me as much as the aesthetic issue. I can understand why they didn't opt to create a separate judgement power for every weapon set (though I think they should), but why not even an Energy, Radiation, or Psionic judgement? Or just a Physical judgement, a'la Footstomp or something similar?


 

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The colors arently really the issue for me, I just hate the animations. Its the same old recyled crap we already have. Also there is no options for a psi or toxic nuke. I think at the very least those 2 need to be interface and judgement options.
Right, because the strongest damage type should have a nuke available to all...


 

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kinda has nothing to do with anything, but I do kinda wish cryonic was a location AoE instead of a cone. just thrown' that out there.


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Right, because the strongest damage type should have a nuke available to all...
Actually, as of the latest version of Culex's spreadsheet, which admittedly hasn't been updated in a while, average enemy resistances to various damage types (with enemies that take 10x damage from everything, objects, fire, everything that's invincible to damage, and other things that you don't actually fight in spawns excluded) are...

9.5% Lethal
7.8% Toxic
7.5% Smashing
7.1% Psionic
5.2% Cold
4.6% Energy
4.2% Negative Energy
4.1% Fire

There are other ways to sort the data meaningfully, but these are approximately the order that I usually see them in. Lethal and Toxic are almost always the two most heavily resisted and Fire the least, no matter how I've seen them sorted.


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a Psi nuke would kind of....downplay the characters that have psi nukes as their own powers. :P


but uhm, When you say the animations are recycled stuff we've already seen...?

I've never seen cryonic, never seen pyronic, never seen ion, and definitely never seen anyting like void...so I don't see how those giant, multi-particle animations are 'recycled'.

Eh, I do wish there was a physical option though, like statesman's judgement....but oh well.

I tend to not complain about powers that they didn't HAVE to get us or make look good.


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