New Novel Based on City of Heroes? Why hasn't this been publicized?
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Posted on: 2011-04-09 11:50 in Comic and Hero-Villain Culture
Probably because it's not a CoH book.
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Sounds interesting, but it probably hasn't been publicized by CoH because it doesn't seem to be an actual CoH novel.
Goodbye, I guess.
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Shhh! Nothing to see here, but free press. :P I say roll with it...
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I understand that may be the reason it wasn't "officially" supported by NC Soft and Paragon Studios, but what surprised me was that somebody didn't mention it on these forums before I found this sitting on a shelf in my local Borders store. It has City of Heroes right on the cover, and the dedication encourages people to try a 14 day free trial.
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Originally Posted by Daemodand
Probably because it's not a CoH book.
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I have a few Statesman/Faultline slash fic books published, yet no one has talked about them.
Who knows? If no one told the marketing people about the novel, then they certainly couldn't have said anything about it. And, depending on how recently it was published, you may be the first active forumite to come across the book. Or it could've come up in one of the threads about superheros in novels (though it seems like it's been a while since we had one of those) and just didn't get much attention.
Goodbye, I guess.
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I want to commend you for reading books...
However, it is important that you understand the language if you are going to read the books in a particular language >.>
Also, i forget how legal this type of advertisement actually is... That book may soon find itself off shelves due to having that stuff on it.
Is this even legal?
I mean, if it's based on characters created for CoH, doesn't Cryptic or NC or whoever own the rights to the characters since their inception?
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I think it's that Paragon Studios/NCSoft owns the rights to a character's appearance, since characters are physically (as it were) created in the costume creator. But the back story/personality of that character isn't really something they could copyright, since that's more or less in the player's head.
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Originally Posted by CaptainFoamerang
Is this even legal?
I mean, if it's based on characters created for CoH, doesn't Cryptic or NC or whoever own the rights to the characters since their inception? |
Goodbye, I guess.
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It's been mentioned before. So has the podcast.
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Originally Posted by Local_Man
I understand that may be the reason it wasn't "officially" supported by NC Soft and Paragon Studios, but what surprised me was that somebody didn't mention it on these forums before I found this sitting on a shelf in my local Borders store. It has City of Heroes right on the cover, and the dedication encourages people to try a 14 day free trial.
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It's perfectly legal. Plus, free advertising for CoH.|
Originally Posted by CaptainFoamerang
Is this even legal?
I mean, if it's based on characters created for CoH, doesn't Cryptic or NC or whoever own the rights to the characters since their inception? |
The Wild Cards series is based on a superhero RPG Martin and friends played. Champions, probably.
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I can assure you Local Man is quite literate and educated. But thanks for adding the the discussion, Snarky McSnarkleton.
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Originally Posted by Durakken
I want to commend you for reading books...
However, it is important that you understand the language if you are going to read the books in a particular language >.> . |
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Where exactly is the legality of this stated?
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Originally Posted by Ironik
It's perfectly legal. Plus, free advertising for CoH.
The Wild Cards series is based on a superhero RPG Martin and friends played. Champions, probably. |
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That was snark? i thought he was just being... well... him.|
Originally Posted by MentalMaden
I can assure you Local Man is quite literate and educated. But thanks for adding the the discussion, Snarky McSnarkleton.
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Either way i may take a look at the book. While i honestly prefer the style of authors like Alastair Reynolds, Warren Ellis, and Tsutomo Nihei for general reading i have enjoyed some Mercedes Lackey novels.
So... how is it, anyway?
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I suppose holding a doctorate degree is considered "educated." Whether I am "literate" is probably more a matter of opinion.
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Originally Posted by MentalMaden
I can assure you Local Man is quite literate and educated. But thanks for adding the the discussion, Snarky McSnarkleton.
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LOCAL MAN! The most famous hero of all. There are more newspaper stories about me than anyone else. "Local Man wins Medal of Honor." "Local Man opens Animal Shelter." "Local Man Charged with..." (Um, forget about that one.)
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I've only gotten through the first 10 pages or so . . . so far some interesting characters. It is definitely NOT set in Paragon City. The initial action takes place in Atlanta.
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Originally Posted by Schismatrix
That was snark? i thought he was just being... well... him.
A quantum superposition of being simultaneously denser than neutronium and less substantial than interstellar hydrogen. Either way i may take a look at the book. While i honestly prefer the style of authors like Alastair Reynolds, Warren Ellis, and Tsutomo Nihei for general reading i have enjoyed some Mercedes Lackey novels. So... how is it, anyway? |
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Just checked Amazon and it has I think 5 reviews some not real good saying its not the authors work lol and others liking it. I'll wait for it to come out on my Kindle
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I think she's trying to pull an Eric Flint 1632 Ring of Fire style communal universe with eventual anthologies by professional and amateur writers.
Wasn't there a thread about her requesting stories?
Edit: Ah here it is and they were looking for hero/villain ideas and origins, not stories.
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Originally Posted by Local_Man
I suppose holding a doctorate degree is considered "educated." Whether I am "literate" is probably more a matter of opinion.
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No. Holding a doctorate merely means you've invested lots of time and money into obtaining a piece of paper that says you know something. Ostensibly, this means you're "educated". But it's always possible that the reality of the situation will generate massive cognitive dissonance.
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Basic copyright law. I'm brain-fried from doing taxes all week so I'm not going over all of it again since we've done it so many times before on this forum, but "inspired by" is not the same as "stolen from."|
Originally Posted by That_Ninja
Where exactly is the legality of this stated?
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The thread FatherXmas linked to gives a little further info on the genesis of the project.
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This is unfortunately true in some cases. The joke I heard over and over as I went through my Ph.D. program was "What do you call a Ph.D with bad grades?" The answer: "Doctor."|
Originally Posted by Hyperstrike
No. Holding a doctorate merely means you've invested lots of time and money into obtaining a piece of paper that says you know something. Ostensibly, this means you're "educated". But it's always possible that the reality of the situation will generate massive cognitive dissonance.
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Thanks a bunch it does |
Originally Posted by EricHough
Its a baen book so you can also get it in an ebook format (they support pretty much every format out there). Check the webscriptions page on baen.com.
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Originally Posted by Hyperstrike
No. Holding a doctorate merely means you've invested lots of time and money into obtaining a piece of paper that says you know something. Ostensibly, this means you're "educated". But it's always possible that the reality of the situation will generate massive cognitive dissonance.
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I was in a bookstore today and I found (and purchased) a brand new hardcover book co-authored by one of City of Heroes' favorite authors, Mercedes Lackey. HERE is the cover of the book on her web site . . . but my copy is a little different. The title is
Invasion: Book One of the Secret World Chronicle
Mine has a Red 15-point star shaped seal on it (not stuck on, it is part of the cover), that says:
Based upon characters first created in the popular MMORPG, City of Heroes
Why wasn't this book announced on these forums? I'm quite surprised. I just started reading it. I'll try to post a picture sometime later.
It appears to be "inspired by" CoH and fully outside of the world of Paragon City, but still, I'm surprised we haven't seen something about it.
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