New Novel Based on City of Heroes? Why hasn't this been publicized?


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I love the smell of anti-intellectualism in the morning.
As a holder of multiple degrees, I can say that it's not anti-intellectualism. My problem is that the state of education in this country (the US) is atrocious (with a capital ATROCIOUS). As such, the benchmark of what can be considered "intellectualism" is correspondingly becoming an ever-sinking target.



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As a holder of multiple degrees, I can say that it's not anti-intellectualism. My problem is that the state of education in this country (the US) is atrocious (with a capital ATROCIOUS). As such, the benchmark of what can be considered "intellectualism" is correspondingly becoming an ever-sinking target.
I agree. "Intellectual" and "college degree" are not synonyms. "College degree" and "regurgitated the text book" would be.

Side story: A friend of mine did his pee-aitch-dee on holographic memory for robots (in 1987!) and was disappointed that the process wasn't more challenging. I couldn't even understand what the heck he was talking about beyond the word "robot" and I'm not a dummy. That's an intellectual dude.


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This is unfortunately true in some cases. The joke I heard over and over as I went through my Ph.D. program was "What do you call a Ph.D with bad grades?" The answer: "Doctor."

I've experienced some incredibly bad instructors in my schooling. But, on the other side, I've had the pleasure of learning from some of the most amazing Doctors I've ever met, and still call some of them friends.

It's like any other career... there will be good examples and bad examples.

"Think about this... somewhere in the world is the WORST doctor. Law of averages, somewhere, he or she exists. And the worst part of that is... someone has an appointment for tomorrow!" -G. Carlin (paraphrased)
Yeah, Carlin was riffing off an old joke:

Q: What do you call a guy who graduated last in his class from medical school?
A: "Doctor."


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As a holder of multiple degrees, I can say that it's not anti-intellectualism. My problem is that the state of education in this country (the US) is atrocious (with a capital ATROCIOUS). As such, the benchmark of what can be considered "intellectualism" is correspondingly becoming an ever-sinking target.
What else can you expect when students are hiring people to do their research for them? Or when students "write" a paper by copying and pasting from whatever comes up on Google?


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I agree. "Intellectual" and "college degree" are not synonyms. "College degree" and "regurgitated the text book" would be.

Side story: A friend of mine did his pee-aitch-dee on holographic memory for robots (in 1987!) and was disappointed that the process wasn't more challenging. I couldn't even understand what the heck he was talking about beyond the word "robot" and I'm not a dummy. That's an intellectual dude.
Yes and no.

One of my degrees is in nursing (yes, I used to wipe butt for a living). You get similar responses when talking jargon to patients and their families. A lot of it is that people aren't usually prepped for esoteric terminology.

Unless you delve into "hospital humor". That's a WHOLE different sort of response from people. I've accidentally ruined dinners for people by digging up anecdotes...

Then there's my CompSci degrees. Most people get the real general stuff, and even some of the oddball references. But just explaining simple things like base two math to people and why hard drives are "smaller"?

You can SEE their eyes glass over.

And trying to explain various types of SQL joins to people. Dear GOD it makes me think I'm Daryl Revok from "Scanners" and they're my target.



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What else can you expect when students are hiring people to do their research for them? Or when students "write" a paper by copying and pasting from whatever comes up on Google?
Do you want the NICE answer? Or the HONEST one?



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Knowing and Understanding are very different things.

How many people talk about science, morality, politics, or philosophy without ever understanding what they are talking about but blather on about things like communism and fascism being bad things.

My first comment is more to the fact the OP was asking, "why is a book not being marketed by CoH?" which implies that the book in question is an official product and this implication and thought can be read from the rest of the post. I could be wrong, but the only two ways o understanding the OP is that he's asking "Why is an official CoH book not being marketed?" which means he doesn't understand what he is reading and his comprehension is lacking OR he is asking "Why is book that is made by people that were inspired by CoH not being marketed?" which shows a lack of understanding to basic business practices marketing and publishing to be kind about it.

Further more, being literate, while it implies you comprehend, it is not absolutely the case that you do. So, restated in our new vocabulary...

"I want to commend you for your literacy...

However, it is important that you comprehend the words you choose to read and speak >.>"


 

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Do you want the NICE answer? Or the HONEST one?
Hey, I'm game for honest. My generation (Millennials) sucks.


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It's perfectly legal. Plus, free advertising for CoH.

The Wild Cards series is based on a superhero RPG Martin and friends played. Champions, probably.
Superworld. A Chaosium game.


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Knowing and Understanding are very different things.

How many people talk about science, morality, politics, or philosophy without ever understanding what they are talking about but blather on about things like communism and fascism being bad things.

My first comment is more to the fact the OP was asking, "why is a book not being marketed by CoH?" which implies that the book in question is an official product and this implication and thought can be read from the rest of the post. I could be wrong, but the only two ways o understanding the OP is that he's asking "Why is an official CoH book not being marketed?" which means he doesn't understand what he is reading and his comprehension is lacking OR he is asking "Why is book that is made by people that were inspired by CoH not being marketed?" which shows a lack of understanding to basic business practices marketing and publishing to be kind about it.

Further more, being literate, while it implies you comprehend, it is not absolutely the case that you do. So, restated in our new vocabulary...

"I want to commend you for your literacy...

However, it is important that you comprehend the words you choose to read and speak >.>"
Uh -- it is a little bit wrong to lecture folks about reading comprehension when you didn't understand my initial post. I never said anything about it being marketed by CoH (or NC Soft). Go back and read what I said.

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Why wasn't this book announced on these forums? I'm quite surprised. I just started reading it. I'll try to post a picture sometime later.

It appears to be "inspired by" CoH and fully outside of the world of Paragon City, but still, I'm surprised we haven't seen something about it.
I never said anything about CoH or NC Soft marketing the book.

I did a quick search for the title and did not find any discussion of this book. The primary name on the cover is a well-known, well-respected author of Science Fiction and Fantasy who we know plays CoH and authored an AE arc. I look over the Forums fairly regularly, and never saw any mention of this book being published -- it wasn't mentioned in a recent thread about Super Hero fiction. We even had a thread about Troy Hickman's published comics, so I would have expected this book to be mentioned.

I was expressing surprise that I had not seen any mention of this book related to CoH being published -- usually anything CoH related gets mentioned on the forums somewhere, even if it is not officially sanctioned by NC Soft. I suspect that NC Soft authorized the limited use of their trademarked name on the cover of this book -- it can only be good publicity. However, I'm not sure such permission was needed -- the book is not trying to pass itself off as a "City of Heroes" book.

As for a "a lack of understanding to basic business practices marketing and publishing to be kind about it," (sic)I actually have some knowledge in this area. My wife is a working writer, and is an officer in the local chapter of a national writer's organization. We have had many discussions about the changing world of publishing and the problems writers have in marketing their works, all based upon presentations by published authors, publishers and agents. I probably know more about it than most people, especially since I have read several publishing contracts.

You might want to be a little bit more careful before you accuse someone of a "a lack of understanding to basic business practices marketing and publishing to be kind about it." Using a properly placed comma might be a good practice, too.


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I was expressing surprise that I had not seen any mention of this book related to CoH being published -- usually anything CoH related gets mentioned on the forums somewhere, even if it is not officially sanctioned by NC Soft. I suspect that NC Soft authorized the limited use of their trademarked name on the cover of this book -- it can only be good publicity. However, I'm not sure such permission was needed -- the book is not trying to pass itself off as a "City of Heroes" book.
You're right, I'm wrong. My bad.

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As for a "a lack of understanding to basic business practices marketing and publishing to be kind about it," (sic)I actually have some knowledge in this area. My wife is a working writer, and is an officer in the local chapter of a national writer's organization. We have had many discussions about the changing world of publishing and the problems writers have in marketing their works, all based upon presentations by published authors, publishers and agents. I probably know more about it than most people, especially since I have read several publishing contracts.

You might want to be a little bit more careful before you accuse someone of a "a lack of understanding to basic business practices marketing and publishing to be kind about it."
Keep in mind that anything after what I said that is wrong is based on a wrong premise, so you really didn't need to write this due to the thing it i replying to doesn't apply.

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Using a properly placed comma might be a good practice, too.
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To pull this kicking and screaming back on topic the Secret World Chronicle has been a series of podcasts for a number of years.

Mercedes Lackey the creator is a well published author is involved with the CCCP on Pinnacle (the Coalition of Communist Crusaders for the Internet). She's even been featured on City of Heroes as a guest contributer for a Mission Architect story.





 

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So, is it any good? The cover lacks spandex, or people for that matter, and that makes me wary...


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The Wild Cards series is based on a superhero RPG Martin and friends played. Champions, probably.
Superworld, actually

(edit. Gah... didn't see yours, KingPug)


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So this book at my local Barnes and Noble today and picked it up. Something to read during the weekend, yay



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You're right, I'm wrong. My bad.



Keep in mind that anything after what I said that is wrong is based on a wrong premise, so you really didn't need to write this due to the thing it i replying to doesn't apply.
You took a kind of offensive tone, so I chose to be offended. Now you have admitted you made a mistake, so it's all good.


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I did a quick search for the title and did not find any discussion of this book. The primary name on the cover is a well-known, well-respected author of Science Fiction and Fantasy who we know plays CoH and authored an AE arc. I look over the Forums fairly regularly, and never saw any mention of this book being published -- it wasn't mentioned in a recent thread about Super Hero fiction. We even had a thread about Troy Hickman's published comics, so I would have expected this book to be mentioned.
My post was pushed to paged 3.
http://boards.cityofheroes.com/showthread.php?t=256122


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I can assure you Local Man is quite literate and educated. But thanks for adding the the discussion, Snarky McSnarkleton.
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To pull this kicking and screaming back on topic the Secret World Chronicle has been a series of podcasts for a number of years.

Mercedes Lackey the creator is a well published author is involved with the CCCP on Pinnacle (the Coalition of Communist Crusaders for the Internet). She's even been featured on City of Heroes as a guest contributer for a Mission Architect story.

I made an AE arc that had a minor character named Lexus Minion. I'm funny like that.


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