BAF and Lambda-just a stalker thought

For all that stalkers get talked down, (particularly on the forums) when doing the new incarnate trials, I caught myself thinking- "Man, I wish we had a bunch of stalkers!" Yes, all archetypes can do their thing at one stage or another, but with the Lambda grenades/acid, the BAF commandos, and the big bosses on both, 3-4 assassin strikes on the side would be very welcome.

I'm not sure this is coincidence- even if it is, it seems a newish turn of events. "Incarnate trials forming, a couple more stalkers would be nice?"


Anywise. Just a random thought.

I wouldn't say that a few more stalkers would be nice. Even with 3-4 assassin strikes on an AV is not as strong vs a good dps attack chain.

What I'd really like to see is some more planning in forming the League. 4 tanks, a widow, a corr, a brute (me), and 3 blasters doesn't seem to be the best team make up.

I understand though everybody is playing their favorite toon to get the new shiny, (me included) but after having my SS/WP who basically hasn't died from anything PVE since i18 dropped face plant a million times in one mission wasn't great fun.

Tonight, I think I'm going to try to whip up the Coalilition to form a well built League and beat this thing into the ground.

On an AV, assasin strikes are not as huge, but the bosses/Elite Bosses/Objects? Yes, please.

Heck, the stalkers still can have a whopper of a critical bonus for normal 'scrapping,' where there are so many team members.

Hm. I wonder, the +crit bonus for nearby allies is not improved by league mates, is it?

I would assume "number of nearby teammates" bonuses like Stalker crits or Defender Vigilance are your team only, not the whole league. Be amusing if it's not that way though... think 24 Stalker league.

I haven't even seen a stalker on any of the pug trials I've been on. Kind of disappointing to me.

that would incure allot of damage especially if the stalker incarnate was slotted for damage properly

As much as I love stalkers it would not help us much. If the mobs are moving the AS is useless. The activation time alone allows for the mobs to get so far away from them. As for as the destructable items, any other AT that deals good damage would do it just as easy if not easier since they wont get 1 shotted.

Don't blame me. I rolled one recently and it's only level 15.

Get right next to them just long enough to click your attack, and so long as they don't break line of sight the Assassin's Strike will go off. Good PvP Stalkers can get their AS off on a bunny hopping target, even.

If you get interrupted, BFD. Just try again, it only takes a second. If there are a few people within 30 feet of you, you can out damage a Scrapper in single target.

But yeah, Stalkers aren't optimal, and are almost absent from the Trials, sadly. They really need a buff!

WARNING: I bold names.

i want more sonics on these trials.

Have any stalkers gone solo box hunting in Lambda? Has it worked out well? Has anyone seen if the boxes are equally resistant to all types of damage?

I have an alpha slotted elec/ea stalker I will have to try out on the trials this weekend.

I've done Lamba 3 times and Stalkers would not make any meaningful difference. Stalker doesn't have suppressed stealth so it's not like they can stealth in to destroy crate (unnoticed) for Acid/Grenade. Basically I see Scrappers/Tankers running to each mob and kill. There is nothing special a Stalker can do here.

I've only done BAF once last night for the first time and I can see Assassin Strike being "mildly" useful on a running Lieut, although my Hovering Fortunata has no problem killing any running Lieut because I have +range and my damage is high enough.

I do see that there are "glowies" all over the map. I think you click them to shut down the cannon? I am too new to BAF but maybe Stalker or anybody with stealth can shut them down. There is nothing special that a Stalker can do here.

As for killing AVs within 10s of each other, I can see Stalkers being helpful but Assassin Strike damage is not enough. How's Stalker contributing before the last fight? I think the last part requires team-work than just Stalker's spike damage because there are also many ambushes coming. In that situation, you are probably better off with more buffs/debuffs or general "tanking".


I see "unsuppressed" stealth being a bit more useful in trials to be honest.

I agree with Jibikao. My 51 elec/nin stalker is no different than a Elec scrapper when it comes down to +3 level mobs. The hps the lambda crates have is too high for 1 AS to pop them, and now you have a full group of high tohit +3s looking to kick your butt, and a crate with still more than 50% of its hps.

This is why I picked my Crab VEAT to do the early trials while they are hard. I got -res, +def, +tohit, +dam to the team and I have good def, res and +hps. A few more threads and I will add even more -res with my massive AOEs with my shiny new interface -res IO.