Congratulations Paragon!

Hands down I had more fun on the BAF than Lambda.

BAF>Lambda.

Marauder isn't the problem.
It's his attendent Harem of Victoria's and Walwalker/Commander/ACU escorts that was killing us in seconds. They seem to love spamming Battle Orbs which, whatever they do, was enough to brick us into the floor and sixteen feet under.

Originally Posted by Zwillinger GG, I would tell you that "I am killing you with my mind", but I couldn't find an emoticon to properly express my sentiment.

Originally Posted by Captain_Photon NOTE: The Incarnate System is basically farming for IOs on a larger scale, and with more obtrusive lore.

QFT and amen.

Originally Posted by Zwillinger GG, I would tell you that "I am killing you with my mind", but I couldn't find an emoticon to properly express my sentiment.

Originally Posted by Captain_Photon NOTE: The Incarnate System is basically farming for IOs on a larger scale, and with more obtrusive lore.

Glad to see the forum owner is stepping in and telling everyone how to think.

Oh, wait.

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Huh, I though the reverse. Horses for courses I guess.

The problem with this is that even though the concept of a "Kryptonite" type weakness is fundamental to the comic book genre most people who are playing MMOs don't like anything that could potentially weaken their characters for any reason. Back when the Devs introduced Kheldians they tried to give them the disadvantage of being vulnerable to the voids/quants but so many people screamed so much bloody murder over it that the Devs eventually neutered the vulnerability down to a level where it's now almost completely insignificant.

Related to that is the idea that some people seem to hate MMOs that might actually challenge them to come up with new strategies to overcome new situations. They'd rather float through content without having to think instead of facing something new and learning how to deal with it.

Basically there's nothing the Devs can really do about that player mindset other than to march forward and drag those people kicking and screaming as we go.

Right. And that's the exact same reason people are complaining. Because you have to fail at Khan over and over to "build up strength" or whatever until you can defeat Khan...

Wait, you don't?

Hmmm....

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Haven't told anyone how to think, Bill. Just requested some grown up action.

Would be nice to see from you, too.

And see, this is the part that I can't master yet. Notice I said yet...

I know people beat him, and got close, I just haven't discovered the strategy to taking out his entourage yet.. but I will!!!!

Maybe I'm nuts, but I seriously prefer Lambda over BAF, Lambda seems much more.... straightforward.

Man, what are your BAF runs doing? I got Judgement unlocked last night with three, plus, like, eight threads converted to XP (The initial ones to check out the exchange rates, the later because I was at 90%ish Judgement XP and wanted it so I could slot my Pyronic).

All PUGs, none prearranged, none with greater than two teams worth of people.

Interface, by contrast, has been a gigantic pain in the ***.

Here's a new one for you: No one "has to fail" at BAF and Lambda in order to succeed. There have been plenty of runs without incarnate slotted characters that have succeeded.

Yes, completing the trials reward you with powers to make the trials easier. Completing the ITF gives you reward merits to buy IOs to make that easier too. The comparison is valid.

"Everyone needs to stop complaining."

Right. The definition of which, from what I'm getting, would be "Don't complain about the way they've started coping the "Grind for gear to raid to get gear to raid" crap I dislike in other MMOs. Yep. I should just shut up or attach my lips as firmly to the devs ***** as, say, Golden Girl does.

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Well not completely.

In fact i would argue FAILING the trials are the preferred way to do them as it makes the whole thing less stressful. You STILL get rewarded (drops) if you fail the ITF but you don't get nearly the amount of rewards (drops) if you fail the trials.

I'd rather fail the Trials than fail an ITF.

so technically speaking failing the Trials for now is succeeding, as you are getting the stuff you need to eventually "stomp a mudhole" in the trials later.

Raid for gear to raid for gear. Khan isn't designed with the idea - as said many times in global and in the trial I was in - that you'll be IOd out.

Welcome to the treadmill.

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I'm sorry you cannot grasp that complaining is an action. To stop complaining would not change how you think, it would just be a lot quieter around here until you got your thoughts in order.

Is this the first time I've seen it?

No.

Have I not liked it since beta?

Yes.

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This is no different than previous TFs. You complete the TF, you get rewards. These rewards make the TF easier.

It's the same thing as before. Why do you complain now? Because the difficulty got bumped again.

I'd actually if folks kept complaining. If the devs plan to make any tweeks later the complaints might help. Notice I said MIGHT.

Soooo, I completely disagree with your suggestion.

Well that was non sequitur.

Recap: I said people need to stop complaining.

You claimed that was me telling people how to think.

I refute that it's asking them to act differently, not think differently.

You spew nonsense.

It might make the progression in the next slots a lot less derpy.

Progressing by climbing a mountain made of your own corpses, shouldn't be the method for anyone other than MultipleMan.

Again except if you don't complete the TF, you don't get the rewards.

For the trials you could NOT complete them and still come away with stuff to make it easier.

You DO get drops on both, but I'd argue the drops you get on the trials are 10x greater than those you get during the tfs. A drop such as A PURPLE is irrelevant unless you have the other 4-5 parts of the set. A drop such as an the new purple AM merits or even just a thread is a game changer for incarnate slots.

Soooo, again not quite the same.

Perhaps you should avoid telling others how to and when to voice their opinions.

Ladies and gentlemen we've now entered the twilight zone.

Seeing as how he's not a mod that might be best.

As Castle famously told someone a few years ago "you don't have the right to tell someone not to speak."

I agree.