You are not Level 51.


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+1

(I had to.)

I think of myself as a 50 (+1) whether that means I'm as strong as 51 or not.


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Originally Posted by Chaos Creator View Post
Seriously. I don't understand why people think they are level 51. Just die and your 'level' goes poof. This alone should be proof you're not a higher level.
Other than (+N) being slightly more time consuming to type there is no reason to not use the correct syntax.

Could anyone explain to me why people claim to be level 51?

/rant

It's an... acronym for 50 + 1.


 

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If I see someone broadcast as "Level 50+1 lft" I know they are level 50 with a +1 level shift.

If I see someone broadcast as "Level 51 lft" I know they are level 50 with a +1 level shift.

I'm not seeing an issue here particularly. I know what they mean either way.
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While it's technically incorrect, you might as well argue that blappers don't exist and are simply blasters who fight at melee range. It's just shorthand that isn't confusing because there's no other possible way to be 51 other than with a level shift.

Now, if they ever did implement true levels above 50, there would be reason to distinguish between 51 and 50+1. But they haven't, so there isn't.


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Anyone else got anything ridiculous they wanna argue about?
This didn't spawn nearly the enjoyable argument I was hoping it would spawn.


 

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I have a question: Considering there is no level 51, how ambiguous is it to say you're level 51? What do you think the person means? That he can get into zones a level 50 character cannot? That he can accept missions a level 50 character cannot? What difference does it make whether you say 50+1 vs. 51, when for all intents and purposes, they're the same thing.

No, you're not level 51. I know this, because I know level 51 doesn't exist. But BECAUSE level 51 doesn't exist, then the only two conclusions I can draw from you claiming to be level 51 are A) that you made a typo listing your level or B) that you are level 50 with one level shift.

Now, if we could be, say, level 40 with one level shift, then I wouldn't agree with calling yourself level 41, because you're not like the people who are legitimately level 41. In these cases, I would ask that level shifts be stated separately. However, since level shifts can only be earned after reaching level 50, I don't see this as a problem, either. You can't gain a level shift at level 40, or even at level 49.

"So what if I exemplar?" If you exemplar, then your level should have come up in conversation beforehand. If it hasn't and yet is still somehow relevant for some reason, then yes, I fully support listing your level as 15+1, rather than 16, because there are people who are level 16, and you are not one of them. There are also people who are level 50 genuine who exemplared to 16, and you are not one of these, either. You are a level 15 with a level shift.

However, until and unless characters can gain that 1 point of experience and reach level 51, saying you're level 51 is unambiguous and undeserving of nitpicking. You know what the person means, and he is technically correct, because what you are claiming the confusion is with does not exist.

This is like asking for the price of your hot dog in any American city, and when being told "five" demanding that the vendor specify that he's talking about dollars, because he could mean pesos or euros or florins or some such. You know enough to extrapolate the necessary information without even thinking. There is no room to complain.


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Level 51 = You fell into a well and managed to get out of it, good job.


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This didn't spawn nearly the enjoyable argument I was hoping it would spawn.
So you were trolling? Isn't that against forum rules?


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Level 51 = You fell into a well and managed to get out of it, good job.
I like this definition.


 

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Excuse me what does a level 50 minion con as to a 50 +1?

Yes that makes you a 51.


 

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Excuse me what does a level 50 minion con as to a 50 +1?

Yes that makes you a 51.
No, it really doesn't.


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So you were trolling? Isn't that against forum rules?
Provoking intriguing arguments is not trolling.
The first person who posted their thoughts on whether Loyalists were really evil is a troll by your flawed definition.


 

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Provoking intriguing arguments is not trolling.
The first person who posted their thoughts on whether Loyalists were really evil is a troll by your flawed definition.
You're easily intrigued.


 

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You're easily intrigued.
I'm easily amused as well. Maybe intrigued wasn't a good word. *shrug*


 

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Because it isn't

Edit: Do you get more HP? No? What about enhancements are they affected? No? Not 51.
But level 50 enemies con as if you're level 51!

But either way, eh, doesn't bother me either way people want to say it.


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Excuse me what does a level 50 minion con as to a 50 +1?

Yes that makes you a 51.
Excuse me, but if a level 50 minion does enough damage to kill a level 50 character but not enough to kill a level 51 character and you die, then yes, that means you're still level 50.


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Because it isn't

Edit: Do you get more HP? No? What about enhancements are they affected? No? Not 51.
Actually enhancements are affected since the level shift comes included in a Rare Alpha.


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Excuse me, but if a level 50 minion does enough damage to kill a level 50 character but not enough to kill a level 51 character and you die, then yes, that means you're still level 50.
So then, conversely, if you don't die, then you are level 51?
In that case, I'll happily point out that said minion's damage is reduced due to the level shift. Meaning you won't die. Level 51. QED.


 

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we all know what it means if someone in game said "i'm level 51." we can click on them and confirm they are in fact, lvl 50(+1).

i think the point is that people see it and don't really understand what it means. we've already discussed what it means in game, and most of us on the board knows it, but the random in game player... i don't know. that's why i don't like it - because they might not know what it actually means. i guess it doesn't make much of a difference, but i don't want people complaining about raising the lvl cap: the devs aren't. they just figured out a way to have character progression without making all of the previous lvl 50 content trivial (well, at least we still get rewards like we're lvl 50 and can still die in the content... unlike if you really were lvl 55).


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You are not level 51. You're the all-singing, all-dancing crap of the world.
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I have a question: Considering there is no level 51, how ambiguous is it to say you're level 51? What do you think the person means? That he can get into zones a level 50 character cannot? That he can accept missions a level 50 character cannot? What difference does it make whether you say 50+1 vs. 51, when for all intents and purposes, they're the same thing.

No, you're not level 51. I know this, because I know level 51 doesn't exist. But BECAUSE level 51 doesn't exist, then the only two conclusions I can draw from you claiming to be level 51 are A) that you made a typo listing your level or B) that you are level 50 with one level shift.

I think you're making this:



out of this:



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Originally Posted by HelinCarnate View Post
Reminds me of how people get upset when you say "toon" instead of avatar or character. People know what you are talkng about either way, let it go.
I still have issues with 'toon'. But I'll even use it sometimes if someone in a conversation has already used it. Wow, I can't believe I'm saying this.


 

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So then, conversely, if you don't die, then you are level 51?
In that case, I'll happily point out that said minion's damage is reduced due to the level shift. Meaning you won't die. Level 51. QED.
Incorrect. The modified damage that the minion does with each attack is irrelevant. Zombie Man's scenario explicitly states that the minion DID enough damage to kill a 50. Not that the minion's attacks, unmodified, would have killed a 50.

Of course the scenario is oversimplified as stated, since "enough damage to kill a 50" depends on a lot more than level (AT, +Max Health set bonuses, Accolades, etc).


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So then, conversely, if you don't die, then you are level 51?
In that case, I'll happily point out that said minion's damage is reduced due to the level shift. Meaning you won't die. Level 51. QED.
ROTFL!

Seriously, why can't we all just say "I'm like 51, but not".

Honestly I couldn't care less if someone says they are rutabega as long as they aren't a total moron during a tf.


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