The New Peer Pressure (Are You Feeling It?)


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Not really, but then I'm probably one of the people "pressuring" others to play their 50's.

I've got about 8 lvl 50's, four of which I played semi-regularly, as well about 2 dozen toons of various levels.

I like doing TF's and SF's, so this has been an excuse to cycle through them with all my lvl 50's, and when the WST is a lower level TF/SF I start playing it with my lower level toons after my 50's have gotten their Notices.

Now i'm interested in properly IO'ing out some of the 50's that I basically stopped playing after they hit 50.

I suspect that it will go back to something more "normal" after people have gotten their favorite 50's slotted with the Alpha Ultra Rare, with spikes of "lvl 50 only" play as the new slots become available.


 

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If anything the new emphasis seems to have balanced things out a bit. Pre i19, I rarely pulled out my 50s because most of the teams seemed to be lower level and I figured why not earn XP on a new toon rather than exemp down. Now, I have absolutely no trouble finding teams on my lowbies or my 50s.


 

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The heat is on to keep playing high level toons instead of rolling new ones or playing lowbies. Some folks only want to run strike/taskforces or only certain s/tfs...

Are you feeling pressured to play incarnate content or just tf content? If yes, are you more than okay with or does it frustrate the hell out of you?
Nope.

Made new alts, ran low level TFs just like usual. As for my tip missions (if I decide to run them) or the story arcs I like to run, I've always ran them solo or just picked up whoever.

I've always prefere running TFs even before IOs.


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The heat is on to keep playing high level toons instead of rolling new ones or playing lowbies. Some folks only want to run strike/taskforces or only certain s/tfs...

Are you feeling pressured to play incarnate content or just tf content? If yes, are you more than okay with or does it frustrate the hell out of you?
The only pressure I'm feeling is the pressure I put on myself. I would like to get the Partner badge on my two badge characters at some point, but it means running an ungodly number of WST - at least 200 to get it for both characters. Seeing as even a speedy task force exhausts me mentally, this essentially means playing those two alts every night for the equivalent fo seven months.

Other than that, no I'm not feeling pressure, and I am in fact still creating new low level characters.


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Feeling the Peer Pressure? You bet. The Satanic Hamster made a concerted effort to get my to play my high-level characters and join him on Incarnate TFs and my friends have been scheduling high-level TFs as events for some time. Even the random channels I'm a member of, which would occasionally send out calls for things like Bastion TFs, Manticore TFs and so on now only ever send out calls for the current WTF. I mean, why wouldn't they? It's a TF that grants double rewards. Why would you do anything else?

Am I succumbing the pressure? No, not in the slightest. One of the talents I take pride in is flipping the birdie to the rest of the world and doing my thing anyway, so I've been making and playing new characters, and doing so consistently and entirely alone. Strangely, I don't get fewer tell-invitations to teams than I used to in the low levels, only now I get far more people asking to join my team (when I'm solo) than I get people asking me to join theirs. Odd.

Really, though, I couldn't succumb to the peer pressure even if I wanted to, since it expects me to play nothing but TFs and Trials, both of which bore me to tears.


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Did I miss the thread when Going Rogue came out about the peer pressure to abandon your 50s and end-game content in order to roll lowbie alts to play in Praetoria and try out the new Power Sets?
No, dear. That was the old peer pressure. This is the new peer pressure.


 

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Feeling the Peer Pressure? You bet. The Satanic Hamster made a concerted effort to get my to play my high-level characters and join him on Incarnate TFs and my friends have been scheduling high-level TFs as events for some time. Even the random channels I'm a member of, which would occasionally send out calls for things like Bastion TFs, Manticore TFs and so on now only ever send out calls for the current WTF. I mean, why wouldn't they? It's a TF that grants double rewards. Why would you do anything else?

Am I succumbing the pressure? No, not in the slightest. One of the talents I take pride in is flipping the birdie to the rest of the world and doing my thing anyway, so I've been making and playing new characters, and doing so consistently and entirely alone. Strangely, I don't get fewer tell-invitations to teams than I used to in the low levels, only now I get far more people asking to join my team (when I'm solo) than I get people asking me to join theirs. Odd.

Really, though, I couldn't succumb to the peer pressure even if I wanted to, since it expects me to play nothing but TFs and Trials, both of which bore me to tears.

But they only offer double rewards once.


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I enjoy playing my high level toons, so I don't feel 'pressured' to play them. The only pressure I feel is that which drives me to level my toons that are close to 50, and that pressure is self-imposed.


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I feel like a loser when playing my 50s that aren't level shifted when there are those with the (+1) on the team.

I was feeling the pressure to get all my 50s level shifted and I wasn't enjoying things, so I just focused on getting one to the top, so to speak with the paragon alpha enhancemnt, and just play the others when I feel like it. I have noticed that there aren't that many people doing regular missions anymore, at any level, so it is frustrating to have lower level characters that I don't play because I'm almost certain that I won't be able to team with anyone with them.


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I do wonder if we'll see the rise of 'leet' Raiding SGs, with membership application processes and raiding schedules and all the stuff the 800lb Gorilla is famous/notorious for.

I can see it happening, especially on Freedom and/or Virtue. First time we see someone in AP looking for only level 50 recruits for their SG we'll know we've really entered the Raid era.

Or if someone invents the CoH equivalent of... Gearscore...
The level-gating of SGs happens not really because of 'end game' stuff, but because of the sg member limit. Back in happy fun pre-prestige time, I knew a handful of 'superlarge' [read as, multiple SGs with linked names] that did it that way. Initially after Prestige it changed a bit in dynamics because the lower levels actually contribute more to the prestige farm than higher level characters, that has since changed [obviously ].

Also, I'd seriously suggest it was more of perceived pressure than actual [although it's possible people are stoopid jerks] with regards to when Psyche was the weekly.


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I feel like a loser when playing my 50s that aren't level shifted when there are those with the (+1) on the team.

I was feeling the pressure to get all my 50s level shifted and I wasn't enjoying things, so I just focused on getting one to the top, so to speak with the paragon alpha enhancemnt, and just play the others when I feel like it. I have noticed that there aren't that many people doing regular missions anymore, at any level, so it is frustrating to have lower level characters that I don't play because I'm almost certain that I won't be able to team with anyone with them.
Well in my defense, I only like some of the story arcs!

I'll do the missions in Praetoria for sure. Love the lvl 20 multiple you story arc (Agent G I think it is?), last two contacts in Croatoa, Maria Jenkins (havent checked out how revamoed Tina Macentyre arc is).

Keep meaning to go back to the Hollows and solo that one again, but with Praetoria now, I've always just started there (I love the arcs there).

Best bet, just get on them and then send out some tells, broadcast or go to global channels and maybe you'll get a few bites.

There are other people who want to do low level normal missions.


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The people that want to run TFs and "end game" content all the time have always been in the game. The only reason you're seeing more of it is because there is more for them to do these days. If it didn't affect your play style then, it shouldn't now.


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+1 level shift is only a minor boost so its not a huge deal. There isn't much pressure to get it.

However, when we get +2 and +3 level shifts then incarnates starts to become a big deal. My concern is that it will lead to "loot eliteism" where we start seeing "Forming X TF, level 53s only, pst"

Worse, calls for lowering minimum numbers for TFs since X AT can solo it since enemies con at -3.

Just saying, I hope this is carefully worked out.


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V: Brute 50, Corruptor 50, MM 50, Dominator 50, Stalker 50, AW 50, AS 50
Top 4: Controller, Brute, Scrapper, Corruptor
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I feel like a loser when playing my 50s that aren't level shifted when there are those with the (+1) on the team.
So you were also too ashamed to ever team with a 50 when you were 49? Or ever use the SK system at all?

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Or if someone invents the CoH equivalent of... Gearscore...
That'd probably just be a shortening of the slot names and tiers - like someone might broadcast they were putting together a team that had to be J3 or over, meaning they'd only accept people with the 3rd tier of the Judement slot unlocked, for example.

The key one sright now are A1 - for the first tier Alpha to do the new TFs, and A3, for the level shift. It's unlikely you'd see people asking for A2s or A4s, as both those bonuses aren't as important as A1 and A3.
Some people trying for "Master of" badges would might ask for A3 and above.

People asking for D3 or L3, the tiers that give level shifts for the Destiny and Lore slots might be rarer, as those level shifts only apply to Incarnate Trials.


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I definitely feel the urge to get my SS/Shield brute up to 50 so he can start doing incarnate stuff. But with 10 billion worth of enhancements I can't slot yet sitting in my SG storage bins I'd probably feel that way even without the incarnate stuff.


 

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I generally only played my mains anyway, but come i20, shards will drop while exemped, so that'll lessen the pressure other seem to be feeling to only run the high end stuff.


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+1 level shift is only a minor boost so its not a huge deal. There isn't much pressure to get it.

However, when we get +2 and +3 level shifts then incarnates starts to become a big deal. My concern is that it will lead to "loot eliteism" where we start seeing "Forming X TF, level 53s only, pst"

Worse, calls for lowering minimum numbers for TFs since X AT can solo it since enemies con at -3.

Just saying, I hope this is carefully worked out.
From what I understand, the level shifts beyond the first will only be active in actual incarnate content, so the most you should see in the current L50 content is the +1 shift from the alpha slot - the shifts from the other slots will only be seen in the two new incarnate raids, which require you to be an incarnate in the first place. I don't know if they will be active in the apex and tin mage TF's but those also require an open alpha slot to even start and something in the slot if you don't want to be at -8 levels to all the mobs.


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It would still be a big deal on vs the fixed Level 54s. A Level 50 vs 53, we know how that goes...


H: Blaster 50, Defender 50, Tank 50, Scrapper 50, Controller 50, PB 50, WS 50
V: Brute 50, Corruptor 50, MM 50, Dominator 50, Stalker 50, AW 50, AS 50
Top 4: Controller, Brute, Scrapper, Corruptor
Bottom 4: (Peacebringer) way below everything else, Mastermind, Dominator, Blaster
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It would still be a big deal on vs the fixed Level 54s. A Level 50 vs 53, we know how that goes...
So far only the Alpha slot's level shift applies outside of Incarnate Trials [the other incarnate level shifts I believe don't even apply to Apex and Tin Mage TFs]. And given the nature of the turnstile, it'd be a bit more difficult to be 'elitist' effectively in stopping the 'scrubs' from getting in. Sure folks can still be tools, but that'll always be the case [gignore ftw].

But honestly, I don't see it being any more likely to cause 'elitism' than IOs.


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I haven't felt any peer pressure to play fiddies. I have been bored with lowbies for a while now. Too much interesting stuff to do with 50's these days.


 

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The heat is on to keep playing high level toons instead of rolling new ones or playing lowbies. Some folks only want to run strike/taskforces or only certain s/tfs...

You ain't seen nothin' yet /points to i20/.






 

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If I ever felt like someone was applying pressure to me in a game world, I would ruin them. RUIN!!!!

But seriously, no. Tons of people still running tons of stuff. Not everyone is grinding the Inc.


 

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Have not been feeling the pressure. I've been leveling my AR/Dev blaster and Elec/Sonic troller.

The hubub over the WST and now I20 - that it doesn't have any [announced] solo content - reminded me. There is such a backlog of "content" that I still hadn't done, that it doesn't yet matter if I20 will bring anything new for me.

I put content in quotes because I still consider power sets and combinations thereof as content. My alts are content, and I should embrace them.


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No, no pressure here actually. When I finally get something to 50 I ussually play it pretty consistantly for 4-5 months before the itch for something new comes along.

This time was no difference with my Claws/Fire Brute (which everyone should have. Not mine though, go get your own.) I run her with my friends but that is becoming less each day as I search for something new.

So, no, no pressure.


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DOOOOOOOOOOMâ„¢!


But no, not feeling it. If anything, the new 50+ content gives me something to do with my 50s, as I tend to neglect them once they hit the cap. I've also been levelling a tanker, corr, 'shade and huntsman and only having trouble finding teams on the huntsman. But that's just redside being redside.